[Renfrew]

Yeah I'm pretty sure the whole Paz thing is entirely a hallucination.

[Rei]

[The Troops]

i think what kojima is saying

with the analyzer

is that communism is not good at placing talented individuals in roles that suit them

because you will have a guy who's really good at medicine just patrolling a hut

only in big boss's libertarian utopia

can men live up to their true calling

[Winona Ghost Ryder]

Who is Big Galt?

[parker]

boss doesn't have his snake scar on his chest anymore if you take his shirt off either. I can't tell how much of this game just doesn't give a shit or is a clue to some sinister goings ons
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[parker]

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[Dracko]

I've completed this game's story and it's ultimately amazing to see this much production value go into something so limp.

Story beats and big reveals feel completely disconnected from one another and serve little thematic purpose, relying instead on characters being the author's mouthpiece to remind you that "this is all about revenge, yeah?". Most of the cast don't add a thing to it either, including the Metal Gear itself. The sideplots don't go anywhere, including the child soldiers and Paz, there's not even an attempt to tackle the heavier subject matter beyond windowdressing.

Turns out all the major trailers being big on sentimentality and loaded visual vignettes is true of those moments in context, that's the extent of their meaning.

And now that the plot is over with the artifice takes over and everything reveals itself to be yet another soundstage, in that depressing way open world games turn out to be. This was already a problem throughout Chapter 2, where two thirds of the main missions are retreads with difficulty modifiers and the important side ops take place in areas you've already recognizably been, accentuating the feeling of lifelessness.

It plays really well for this sort of thing though, that's undeniable. Shame so much of the equipment and base development is tellingly so time consuming. Maybe Metal Gear Online will shake things up a little but I can't imagine it won't represent a further time investment.
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[parker]

the rank 5 version of the 1911 knockoff is a 9mm conversion. big boss converting his favorite handgun to 9mm is canon
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[The Troops]

when miller puts on his glasses and says, "i think i'll go train some alaskan scouts" as it cuts to black with the music at the end

gives me chills everytime

[parker]

I kicked in a door at an encampment and the radio was blaring "your still in a dream snake eater" and I shot the last guard and then emblem word unlocked: HELL
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[Rei]

[Marshmallow]

WAIT

why didn't this game license sandstorm by darude

[parker]

this game is to 3 and peace walker what 4 is to 1 and 2, with parasites instead of nanomachines
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[Ratoslov]

I'm 15 hours in, and I've barely beat Episode 6. Out of 50. I'm beginning to feel this game is a little liberal with it's use of the player's time.

[Talbain]

Some of the drudgery is removed once you get Diamond Dog to remove the tedious marking of enemies for you. There's still a lot of drudgery to go around though.
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[Felix]

yeah I think I'm gonna sit this out after all. I just got the xof patches in ground zeroes to unlock the last two missions and even that felt like more modern metal gear than I need.

Did they really have to write otacon's dad into the story? That just seems like too much.

[Iacus]

[Renfrew]

I... I thought Mission 43 did what it was trying to do pretty well.
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[Talbain]

[Iacus]

Well... yeah, MGSV plays differently than the old school MGSs.

If you don't like it, there's not much to do.
Personally, I quite like how they managed to make a pure stealth game work without the crutch of a minimap giving you a perfect overview of the battlefield and all its enemies. As a more simulationist gameplay, it works better than the in-between step that MGS3 was.
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Guayaba 2600

[Intentionally Wrong]

[parker]

they couldn't get more than five lines of dialogue out of kiefer but they made sure to get an entire audio book documenting the evolution of vocal parasites from the prehistoric era to now narrated by a 100 year old man
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[Renfrew]

This being an open world game means it is very long and full of repetitive missions and and traveling across empty space. And that's fine. It's what comes with the territory of open world games. However, this game takes a few opportunities to go far beyond the usual amount of time wasting. Like making you scroll through the huge list of your staff to quarantine them one by one and then especially in Mission 46 when you have to replay almost the entirety of the already overly long prologue for no real reason.
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[jodeaux]

It's possible that I'm still in the honeymoon phase with the game, but I think I'm about 10 hours in and still haven't grown tired of the game's "grind." It does feel like a JRPG of the obvious reasons, but specifically in regard to how you can just sorta chill with the game and inhabit its space without being shrieked at or told where to go. I'm not even really paying attention to my playtime so far? I just enjoy coming home from work and unwinding while playing it. Does anyone else have this experience or am I going to hit a wall at some point?

[Renfrew]

Yeah, I don't have a job so this game has been my entire life for the last week.

Back to spoiler complaining:

So MGS2 said the character is the player, and you suck, and now MGS5 says The character is the player, and you are awesome.
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[drobe]

War has changed™.

Also, MGS2 gave away the plot back in '0-something.

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[parker]

[Renfrew]

I bow to no man who tells me to press square in a menu.

I wish this game had had Gray Fox in the role Ocelot is in and had Ocelot doing actual Ocelot things.
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[Schwere Viper]

Gray Fox's only appearance in the Big Boss saga was in Portable Ops. From memory, it wasn't particularly well-handled considering Jaeger's condition in MG1 and 2, so his absence might be a blessing in disguise? He's more relevant to Solid Snake's character anyway.

[Rei]

[boojiboy7]

[Iacus]

PROTIP: Even if you play offline, if you have connected to the server and built an FOB at some point, you still retain some of its advantages, like being able to dispatch two extra units on combat deployment missions
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[parker]

I kept trying to work it out some way in my head but I knew there was no way whatever was going on was gonna be resolved and not feel pointless and convoluted. I felt like miller at the end "what happened to everything we were building? fuck big boss!" also having to replay the hospital part at the end just reminded me how great the intro was and made me wish it had been a regular 6-8 hour linear cinematic metal gear all done as well as the hospital.

not big boss having all the memories of the real one and supposed to be basically a duplicate in every way makes the uncommunicative kiefer performance even more frustrating and pointless. the appeal of peace walker for me other than co-op was all in slowly building up your base and hearing miller and snake constantly talk about it and the advances you make the whole way. they comment on every little thing that happens at mother base. hearing them talk about the things going on there made it feel more alive when it was just a menu screen in that game, compared to it being an actual place you can walk around in this one.

I just don't get what the hell the point was other than a completely needless explanation of why big boss returns in metal gear 2 (this game already has big boss and volgin and paz cheating death (and wasn't the big boss in metal gear 2 supposed to the one with robot parts anyway)) but it felt good hearing kiefer sutherland tell me "thank you friend, the legend is ours, your big boss now, you can change the future," etc. so, great game. still not sure how diamond dogs leads to outer heaven, or how big boss ends up leading fox hound for the government or why he pits them against his own outer heaven.

peace walker and ground zeroes and the trailers to this one all kept building up some kind of snake vs zero thing but then in this game your after skull face, there's never really any build up, and he just gets stepped on by his own metal gear halfway into the game anyway, then miller is all like now we're going after zero, but you don't you just take care of a quarantine thing, then presumably at some point you reremember who you are or somebody tells you and that's it the end. and the tapes you unlock at the end try to make zero seem like not such a bad guy either (paz switching sides to wanting zero dead in ground zeroes makes no sense now), that it was really skull face, that one guy, you already barely remember, who was the real threat, everybody else was a nice guy misunderstanding other nice guys, and the rest of the games are just the effects of ai systems working themselves out. snakes keep being pitted against big bosses who want to kill the patriots, then those big bosses get killed but the patriots keep preserving and reviving those big bosses, all because a guy instituted an ai system to control the world but went bonkers before he was done. okay.

too bad the fox engine is probably just going to go to waste after this.
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[Felix]

I'm more of a good-sized boss

[The Troops]

Top 8 Metal Gear Comas

Grey Fox - 1999-2005
Big Boss - 1975-198X
Big Boss - 1999-2014
Volgin - 1964-1984
Venom - 1975-1984
Zero - 1977-2014 (The Champion!)
Solidus - 2009-2014
The Boss - 1943 (when she gave birth, lasted 6 months)

[Rei]

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[Felix]

I think the entire flimsy plot was actually just based on the lyrics to The Man Who Sold The World. and I wouldn't mind that nearly as much if the supporting cast wasn't so bad.

[Adilegian]

Still avoiding reading threads because of spoilers, but I wanted to share Mother Base's mascot... ESCAPE MASTER.



Escape Master has a theme song.

ESCAPE MASTER
he's out of guns
ESCAPE MASTER
he's on the run

escape master's comrades bled
even as he left them for dead
look at those beautiful
coward wings

ESCAPE MASTER
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[Rei]

[parker]

that ocelot video is a hoot