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Grant Dempsey
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:39 am        Reply with quote

It's got to be clear enough that being MGS is what really makes the prospect of an MGO interesting. I mean, yeah, American players turned it into M4-headshot-mania: The Game, but like elvis said just a little bit above me here, they were sort of hijacking the game in turning it into that, not just letting the game arise in its own form. And what I think is interesting on top of that: my impression is that most of the American, M4-crazy players nevertheless understood that they weren't playing, say, Call of Duty and even chose to play MGO, instead of Call of Duty, largely because of that, because it was different, because it wasn't "supposed" to be a typical online shooter game. I suppose my point being, I think the problem of American players wasn't that they wanted MGO to be something other than it was; I think their problem was that they wanted it to be pretty much what it was, but they just didn't/couldn't figure out how to engage it as such, so every time, without fail, they'd play the game in that one way they could: runnin'-'n-gunnin'. And their really annoying seriousness about it all wasn't simply a passioned insistence on making sure the game was M4 Adventures, but a whole other gaming-cultural issue altogether (our general American preference for kinds of atomistic individualism, our social obsession with using games--not just video games--as a way to prove ourselves against others including teammates, etc.).

I don't think even American developers would boil MGO down to something all about headshots. I think American developers would be very self-conscious about being faithful to the MGS identity. If anything, they'd just bring more rigor into the system design that might make an MGO that isn't just quirky, but highly functional in its quirkiness.

Or American players really are just terrible souls and American developers are the devils on their shoulders, and that's that. I dunno.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:28 am        Reply with quote

An open world MGS sounds really fun. I imagine it will be like Deadly Premonition, except with all the survival horror elements replaced with stealth espionage action.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:56 am        Reply with quote

Family Computer wrote:
An open world MGS sounds really fun. I imagine it will be like Deadly Premonition, except with all the terrible gameplay replaed with acceptable gameplay.

Sorry for the FIXED IT FOR YOU POST.

You just happened to write what I was thinking and I couldn't very
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:57 am        Reply with quote

lol guess I'm going to leave that as-is
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:19 pm        Reply with quote

I would like it if there was a 'talk to self' button on the controller. I want to know what kinds of horrible movies Big Boss likes!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:03 pm        Reply with quote

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I would like it if there was a 'talk to self' button on the controller. I want to know what kinds of horrible movies Big Boss likes!


Didn't MGS3 have a character that did this when you talked to them on the codec?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:08 pm        Reply with quote

Family Computer wrote:
Ratoslov wrote:
I would like it if there was a 'talk to self' button on the controller. I want to know what kinds of horrible movies Big Boss likes!


Didn't MGS3 have a character that did this when you talked to them on the codec?

Yep! That was Para Medic.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:11 pm        Reply with quote

Ground Zeroes will be the closest thing we will ever get to an open world version of Vampire Rain.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:16 am        Reply with quote

Adilegian wrote:
Family Computer wrote:
Ratoslov wrote:
I would like it if there was a 'talk to self' button on the controller. I want to know what kinds of horrible movies Big Boss likes!


Didn't MGS3 have a character that did this when you talked to them on the codec?

Yep! That was Para Medic.


But her taste was pretty good.

That game also established that Big Boss doesn't watch movies ):
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:33 am        Reply with quote

Levi wrote:
That game also established that Big Boss doesn't watch movies ):

He sure promised to watch a lot of 'em, though!

That Big Boss never followed through on those promises is surely why Para-Medic became so bitter as a Patriot.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:44 pm        Reply with quote

If there is codec conversations for stuff, I kind of want Big Boss to be lecturing the other guy at least half the time. "Looks like you've got a knife, Snake!" "Are you seriously going to tell me about my knife? How old are you, Kid?" "Uh... twenty four?" "I have been shanking bitches longer than you have been alive. I know how a knife works. You can use the square button to..."
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:00 pm        Reply with quote

Bumping this thread because I just found out the song from the Ground Zeroes trailer is the ending song of MGS4

Which is probably from somewhere else anyway
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:51 pm        Reply with quote

Persona mobile wrote:
Bumping this thread because I just found out the song from the Ground Zeroes trailer is the ending song of MGS4

Which is probably from somewhere else anyway


it's a cover of a song by ennio morricone, from sacco e vanzetti
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:43 pm        Reply with quote

Oh, that's mighty classy~

What movie was that in?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:16 am        Reply with quote

So this whole Phantom Pain reveal is the easily the most glorious game announcement I've ever seen.

Just watching the internet explode when they aren't force-fed the usual PR cycle is amazing entertainment. The people figuring out all of the Kojima/MGS clues is kinda neat, and I'll be interested to see how this ties into Ground Zeroes (are they two separate parts that comprise the whole MGS5, a la Virtuous Mission/Snake Eater and Tanker/Big Shell?), but I'm even more amused by the people who don't accept it until they get the official beat-you-over-the-head announcement and resist the massive evidence that no, this really isn't some unknown Swedish developer who just happens to have enough money to take AAA game ad time on the ridiculous VGA show.

It's enough to have made me fire up MGS2 HD today, to relive the previous best fan baiting ever pulled off in gaming. I'm not even the hugest Metal Gear fan, but this is first rate entertainment and I cannot wait to see more.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:13 pm        Reply with quote

There's suuposed to be some FOX engine stuff at GDC this month, so hopefully more info coming with it?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:04 pm        Reply with quote

luckily, no part of Geoff Keighley cares about whether or not he is being punked, because his entire existence is one long reciprocal punking between himself and the world at large
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:58 am        Reply with quote

Winona Ghost Ryder wrote:


This is straight up Nathaniel Hornblower esque nonsense and I love every single second of it.

Not sure if I believe the peanut gallery saying that Joakim is actually being rendered in Fox Engine (Hence why they are only using head shots between Geoff and Joakim) but that would be like the most Kojima thing he ever pulled off.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:35 pm        Reply with quote

Guess what the previous video on that account is?



Guess what happens when you play the background music backwards?

HMMMMMM~
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:36 pm        Reply with quote

Is there a video where it plays backwards?
I'm assuming it's the MGS theme music?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:03 pm        Reply with quote

Persona mobile wrote:
Is there a video where it plays backwards?
I'm assuming it's the MGS theme music?


Bits and pieces of the classic theme, yeah.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:08 pm        Reply with quote

TXTSWORD wrote:
There's suuposed to be some FOX engine stuff at GDC this month, so hopefully more info coming with it?


PROPHET
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:21 pm        Reply with quote

Does Snake exclusively use snakeskin bandages, or is that just a super gaudy hospital?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:27 pm        Reply with quote

this is all just a small part of the full bob's game experience
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:18 pm        Reply with quote

Take It Sleazy wrote:
this is all just a small part of the full bob's game experience


They need to take it to its logical conclusion. Put hints out, but roll with it right till its on shelves as The Phantom Pain and then about halfway through the game pull the late title card as MGS V. It would be the greatest thing ever accomplished in videogamery.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:39 pm        Reply with quote

RobotRocker wrote:
Winona Ghost Ryder wrote:


This is straight up Nathaniel Hornblower esque nonsense and I love every single second of it.

Not sure if I believe the peanut gallery saying that Joakim is actually being rendered in Fox Engine (Hence why they are only using head shots between Geoff and Joakim) but that would be like the most Kojima thing he ever pulled off.


looks rendered to me

best "evidence" is that this is all being done in an interview with geoff keighley, who is far and away the game journalist most likely to go along with a PR stunt. there's no other reason to talk to him.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:25 am        Reply with quote

that guy is definitely computer-animated, and this is definitely metal gear solid 5, and they are definitely going to announce it as such at GDC.

personally i wish they'd been a little bit more obscure about it. they sort of blew it with these last couple of things.

in conclusion, i will be hecka upset if the official title is not "metal gear 5olid"

edit: did anyone else notice that they call that guy "head CEO" twice -- and it even says "head CEO" under his name?

that's a kojima word-grouping if i ever heard one.

let us be speculating about what "CEO" stands for!

Computer Entertainment Object?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:28 am        Reply with quote

there's no way Joakim is rednered in that video. Its an actual guy with tape on his face. They probably didn't do full body shots because A. this way is weirder B. they don't have to worry about "selling" a full body shot/costume.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:29 am        Reply with quote

possibly

though hey let's talk about the "head CEO" thing
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:40 am        Reply with quote

108 wrote:
possibly

though hey let's talk about the "head CEO" thing

This makes sense to me. I was caught by that too. "Well that's somewhat redundant."

I'm torn though. The "head CEO" actually makes a bit more sense in English as a tautology/pun than I'm used to Kojima's Englishisms making. It's subtle enough that it comes off as possibly just bad titling.

Also there's the purported language barrier of .se to .eng, which could also explain awkwardness.

HRM.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:40 am        Reply with quote

I am the CEO of heads.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:24 am        Reply with quote

Toptube wrote:
there's no way Joakim is rednered in that video. Its an actual guy with tape on his face.


Yeah, what are you guys talking about

edit: head CEO post
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it's all viral marketing for Neverdead 2
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:54 am        Reply with quote

he's a CEO who is only a head
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:05 am        Reply with quote

That head is as real as Tim Rogers
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:10 am        Reply with quote

That head is as real as Toups' disavowal of Sankaku Complex.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:12 am        Reply with quote

I never disavowed reading Sankaku Complex. you must have me mistaken for jarvis cocker.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:46 pm        Reply with quote

Moby Dick studios has a loose hierarchy.

"In here, we're all CEOs"

This is just the guy in charge of the other CEOs

"This is the CEO we've won for ourselves"
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