[Rud31]

It would be pretty fantastic if this just ignored canon and focused on telling a story.
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THERE ARE DEFINITELY WORSE VIDEO GAME PODCASTS

[thestage]

o god, there is nothing worse in the world than warped canon talk regarding nerd franchises

don't do this, guys

the best part about things that become big and dumb enough to actually invoke the word canon is that it is assumed that every single character, scene, moment, event, everything fucking ever must have a deep backstory that relates to everything else.

like, psycho mantis was a boss character in a video game released in 1998. I don't need to see him in another video game so I can be safe in knowing that this character is a Real Person and he Totally Makes Sense and he Definitely Has A History With Everything Else

[klj5j6li]

[special blend]

ATT-I-CA!

ATT-I-CA!
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[thestage]

ok so there is a gameplay video and like the ishmael guy is like WE GOTS TO GO DAWG I BEEN PROTECTING YOU but then you are just crawling on the ground and he keeps running forward and then waiting for you to crawl to him

video game logic

I DON'T KNOW MAYBE THIS ISHMAEL GUY WOULD, LIKE, PICK SNAKE UP AND HELP HIM WALK? LIKE A HUMAN BEING WOULD DO?

though I am sure this will be rationalized because Ishmael is actually a psychic projection of snake whose mind is being influenced by the teenage psycho mantis to blah blah blah

[thestage]

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[parker]

[Adilegian]

Reposted from FB with some other SBers:

Ever since the story progression has committed to connecting MGS3 to the beginning of Metal Gear 1, I think that I've been waiting for the "way they were back before they were bad guys" moments to finally transform into "OK now they're who they are as bad guys."

Peace Walker was a good game, but I actually found the plot frustrating and tiresome in part because of how distracted from one of the real sources of impact that the pre-Metal Gear 1 games has: bringing everything up to speed. Peace Walker also\ beat the same series cliches into the ground without doing anything new with them. As much as people hate MGS4, its use of series cliches was innovative and interesting to think about moreso than other games in the series that have emerged around it. I wouldn't defend that it's the best game, but I will defend that: MGS4 has given me a lot more to think about than Portable Ops, Peace Walker, Revengeance, etc in terms of formal construction.

I never think about Peace Walker.

The best thing about Peace Walker's story was the establishment of Big Boss's Army without Borders on oil platforms, I thought. The rest of it actually struck me as a tiresome "HEY WE REPEAT EVERYTHING" stunt except without anything really clever sticking out to make me want to remember it. The Boss and the Cobras have generated interest in their earlier development, but the whole part with The Boss and AIs and everything in Peace Walker actually accomplished to the series' satisfaction what was, to me, already clear and final at the end of MGS3: Big Boss is mad at being manipulated and differentiates himself from The Boss.

That the series took three sequels to get around to establishing the overall context that Peace Walker ended upon (included MGS4 as a series sequel since it sure didn't mind reaching back in time to retcon retcons) is poor economy. Now, obviously, this critique needs to be qualified since several factors intervene: (1) wanting to explore the creative possibilities in that gap between two known narrative points + (2) the priority that immediate creative / thematic interests take over creating a succinct and connecting story + (3) Spaceballs 2: The Quest for More Money. It's a problem with the overall series' progression, but even insofar as the development process is aware of connecting MGS3 to MG1 there are real-world creative and economic influences that direct that course of events.

Soooooooo yeah. It feels like the rubber on the prelude story might actually hit the road here. If they're done doing interesting stuff with formal constructions of series tropes, which they seem to be as far as Peace Walker and Revengeance indicate, then I would like to see them capitalize on the dramatic potential inherent in making those definitive steps toward meeting Metal Gear 1.

tl;dr finally we will learn the truth about coward duck
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[Dark Age Iron Savior]

Did they put the MGS theme back in the series? I'm not watching anymore MGS videos unless the theme is in there.

[Adilegian]

[thestage]

[Adilegian]

[Toptube]

I don't recall any of the snake characters actually speaking in either of the two trailers. Just grunting and gasps and stuff.


Its entirely possible its still david hayter, just not doing the snake voice. I mean that's an actual character voice that he hams up and whatnot. His actual speaking voice is quite different.




*I wish I could high-five Hideo Kojima on getting Kiefer Sutherlund to voice a character for a MGS game.

[Dark Age Iron Savior]

[parker]

I always wondered if Raiden's wig wearing came from his child soldier days in liberia.

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[thestage]

[Adilegian]

[Ni Go Zero Ichi]

[analogos]

[internisus]

We're starting to get to a point in the chronology where I'm worried about the games stepping on the feet of this.

[Ni Go Zero Ichi]

As far as I can recall for MGS4 they had this new theme that sounded kind of like the old MGS theme, but wasn't, and basically pretended like it was the same theme they'd always used, and that's the one that gets played at the end of the (overlong, infuriating) final Ocelot oldguy fistfight.
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[Toptube]

[Felix]

well, even though I haven't thought much of any of the post-MGS3 games, this actually does look like something. here's hoping it actually comes out on PC!

[Ni Go Zero Ichi]

MGS has changed voice actors (for a reason other than somebody dying or whatever) at least once, where Gray Fox was voiced by a different guy in MGS1 and The Twin Snakes (who oddly enough still voiced another character in both games).

Also while it seems weird that Kojima would just up and ditch Hayter like that without so much as a "goodbye", like I said above I wouldn't rule out the possibility that Solid Snake shows up in this game and that's why Big Boss's voice is changed.

Also how are so many people mistaking the supposedly-Kiefer-Sutherland-voiced character for Big Boss? Were they all half-asleep watching the trailer? The maybe-Sutherland character is addressing BB. In the part at the end, he's speaking while we see a closeup of BB's face and his lips aren't moving. I only watched the trailer once and there was never any confusion about this for me.
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[Ni Go Zero Ichi]

[parker]

Right at the beginning of that trailer up there Big Boss asks about a woman and Kiefer responds and then asks who Kiefer is and he answers. It's the new "gameplay" one, it wasn't in any of the other videos before.
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[Ni Go Zero Ichi]

Oh okay, I haven't seen the gameplay one yet.

Does the VA sound like the same guy who did old Big Boss (Big Old Boss?) in MGS4?
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[analogos]

you guys the diamond dogs snake has an oni horn sprouting from his forehead

why won't anyone else mention the god damned horn

[analogos]

look at that shit

[internisus]

[Felix]

Ol' Dirty Boss

[The Troops]

[analogos]

it's a horn.

[Ni Go Zero Ichi]

Snake = Unit 01, Evangelion crossover confirmed?
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[Adilegian]

[parker]

[Grant Dempsey]

[diplo]

[special blend]

this is 2013, western culture is now nothing but a big fanboy fuckpile, you better believe that david hayter is somewhere in that game doing something


edit- toptube beat me to it
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