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How come at the end of every game he's all "I'm not Snake anymore, call me... BIG BOSS" and then in the next game he's Snake again. At least he's not wearing the bandanna anymore.
I'm excited about running from dogs.
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parker
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:22 am |
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Bullets don't really tumble end over end through the air like they did in that cutscene with The Boss. Tumbling refers to what they do when hitting the body.
I keep forgetting about David Hayter. I'm sick of that guy's voice. I want the option to hear the Toshiro Mifune sounding guy.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:46 am |
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| BotageL wrote: |
| parker wrote: |
Bullets don't really tumble end over end through the air like they did in that cutscene with The Boss. Tumbling refers to what they do when hitting the body.
I keep forgetting about David Hayter. I'm sick of that guy's voice. I want the option to hear the Toshiro Mifune sounding guy. |
Hayter's been doing a caricature of his MGS1 delivery for a decade now. I really wish he'd knock it off. |
It looked to me in the video like Big Boss was looking more like the MGS4 Epilogue Big Boss than just Snake with an eye patch, it'd be neat if they went with Solidus' or 4's Big Boss voice actor or a similar sounding guy instead. Of course they won't, they can't even stop calling him Snake.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:03 am |
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| Felix wrote: |
| yeah, but even that is sort of fucked up -- the game gives you the option, but you're totally hamstrung if you use any control set other than MGS4-style boring third-person-shooter run and gun style. I like handhelds just fine; this seems fairly compromised. metal gear, to me, has never been about anything other than maximalism. |
I used mgs3 controls. I didn't have a problem with it except for having to twist my hand up into a mangled claw to shoot and move at the same time, though I hardly needed to outside the multiplayer boss fights. I got used to it quick and it was all worth it though just to have shooting back on the square button where it belonged.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:40 pm |
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All those hours grinding in Peace Walker gone up in flames
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:14 am |
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| The Troops wrote: |
| just Big Boss setting fires to oil platforms, screaming Fuck The USA (in a voice that isn't David Hayter's, thank Christ). |
Actually that's the headquarters of his mercenary band. They live on a big shell-esque base out on the ocean. At the end of Peace Walker he does give a speech to The Troops about how the world's going to be coming after them and they'll become terrorists if necessary etc. though. That and when he says "I AM A GUN" were my favorite parts.
Did you guys not see the giant flaming whales and horses how is Psycho Mantis showing up during a halucinatory coma hell dream a stretch. Even if Big Boss never knew him, who even knows how those mind powers work.
Really glad it's not Hayter anymore too.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:07 am |
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| thestage wrote: |
ok so there is a gameplay video and like the ishmael guy is like WE GOTS TO GO DAWG I BEEN PROTECTING YOU but then you are just crawling on the ground and he keeps running forward and then waiting for you to crawl to him
video game logic
I DON'T KNOW MAYBE THIS ISHMAEL GUY WOULD, LIKE, PICK SNAKE UP AND HELP HIM WALK? LIKE A HUMAN BEING WOULD DO?
though I am sure this will be rationalized because Ishmael is actually a psychic projection of snake whose mind is being influenced by the teenage psycho mantis to blah blah blah |
Because The Metal Gear Solid V Announcement Gameplay Video thing being twenty minutes of a guy slowly pulling himself across the floor with one hand is hilarious.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:24 am |
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I always wondered if Raiden's wig wearing came from his child soldier days in liberia.
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I don't recall any of the snake characters actually speaking in either of the two trailers. Just grunting and gasps and stuff.
Its entirely possible its still david hayter, just not doing the snake voice. I mean that's an actual character voice that he hams up and whatnot. His actual speaking voice is quite different. |
Here's where he talks.
Doesn't sound like Hayter, also Hayter was upset on twitter about not being in MGS5.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:03 am |
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Right at the beginning of that trailer up there Big Boss asks about a woman and Kiefer responds and then asks who Kiefer is and he answers. It's the new "gameplay" one, it wasn't in any of the other videos before.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:23 am |
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| Ni Go Zero Ichi wrote: |
Oh okay, I haven't seen the gameplay one yet.
Does the VA sound like the same guy who did old Big Boss (Big Old Boss?) in MGS4? |
He just says a couple words, it's hard to tell. It could be that guy doing a "I just woke up from a 9 year coma" voice, or anybody. Hell it almost does sound like Kiefer doing both voices. Maybe they just brought him in to voice up that whole bit just to show off a single scene in a game that's still a ways off.
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| all fanboyism aside, it has to be a ruse. |
I don't see what the point would be though. Haha you thought Snake was going to be someone else, but it's Hayter again, surprise! And I really don't seem them bringing anymore clones into story at this point either. Not in the pre-Metal Gear 1 era. I don't know, maybe he's Hayter in the Ground Zero prologue then Richard Doyle in the post-coma Phantom Pain and Hayter just doesn't know yet cause it's just a small part in a still unfinished game.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:11 am |
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I think it's shrapnel sticking out of Big Boss' head
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:16 pm |
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Big Boss becomes a badguy because of shrapnel in his head that damages his frontal lobe and his ability to tell right from wrong. After Snake kills him he's reconstituted from Solidus' and Liquid's parts minus the shrapnel so he's a nice guy again in the graveyard at the end. Except he doesn't seem to have shrapnel in his head on the operating table with Miller. Horns it is then.
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parker
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:42 pm |
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| thestage wrote: |
| of course, if most of the people here ran into people doing this about Final Fantasy, they would chortle, call them all nerd idiots, and then go back to, I dunno, listening to they might be giants |
Except there's threads about final fantasy on here all the time and nobody is calling anybody else an idiot in them.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:24 pm |
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No, it must be everyone just can't handle the mind blowing wisdom nedge offers by calling a videogame dumb. It couldn't possibly be his personality as an insufferable asshole that makes people sick of his bullshit time and time again.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:32 am |
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David Hayter wrote his sucide note on twitter today saying he wanted to assure fans that he didn't abandon them, this was all Kojima's doing, time to end the meme etc.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rjhhf9
It's weird not even the voice actor distinguishes Big Boss from Solid Snake, everyone always just says "Snake." If all I knew about the series was from kotaku articles or something I wouldn't even know they were two different guys.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:07 am |
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Kiefer was voicing the bandaged dude. Big Boss only says like two words and it's hard to hear who it might be.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:02 am |
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| Ni Go Zero Ichi wrote: |
| I held off for a while because I was concerned the portable-minded level design would be unsatisfying on a console |
Well, it is. The levels are too short and too easy. I was pretty forgiving of it because it was metal gear co-op and it wasn't designed for consoles to begin with though. Also unlike 4 it felt like it was actually about something and made for a reason other than just to try and conclude the story from 2.
| Grant Dempsey wrote: |
| parker wrote: |
| Kiefer was voicing the bandaged dude. Big Boss only says like two words and it's hard to hear who it might be. |
I honestly can't not hear Kiefer when I hear Big Boss speak in this trailer, though. I know it's just a few lines, but Kiefer's voice is nearly as distinct as Hayter's Snake-voice, and damn if the whispered "What happened to the woman?" doesn't sound exactly like a wounded/exhausted Jack Bauer to my ears. |
And the bandaged guy is almost certainly just a post coma tutorial guide hallucination thing so yeah you're probably right. Doubt they'd waste The Kief on just that.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:50 pm |
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| Winona Ghost Ryder wrote: |
| What Splinter Cell: Conviction was originally supposed to be before Ubisoft's retooling killed the franchise. |
Never let the dream die
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| Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:00 am |
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| nothingxs wrote: |
Ishmael = Solidus
Hence why Snake / Ishmael are both Kiefer Sutherland |
Solidus would of been about 10 years old in 1984 though. Also if they're changing it to where the clones were made while Big Boss was in his phantom pain coma then that would retcon the Snakes to all be even younger, by two years at least.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:38 pm |
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Yeah I knew he aged faster I guess Kiefer Sutherland at age 10 seems a little extreme though. Like at that rate he'd be 90 by the time of mgs2. I figured it was just slightly faster than solid and liquid.
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| I really would love the after coma/Ishmael/Ocelot act of the game to be an on the run/The Fugitive sort of deal, though there will definitely be a base rebuilding/Diamond Dogs act. What Splinter Cell: Conviction was originally supposed to be before Ubisoft's retooling killed the franchise. |
is there anywhere where i can read about what splinter cell conviction was supposed to be because that game was such an awful sequel |
http://www.ign.com/articles/2007/05/22/splinter-cell-conviction-the-dynamic-environment
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| Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 4:38 pm |
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My favorite Snake voice performance was Karl Urban in Dredd.
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| Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 4:39 pm |
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Mama clan!?
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| Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:55 pm |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:40 pm |
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What 1984 real world conflicts might this game deal with do you think
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| Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:42 pm |
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Also did anyone watch all that fox engine demonstration stuff a while back, in it Kojima mentioned there's a character in the game who's over a 100 years old.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:00 pm |
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| analogos wrote: |
tbf liquid believed his recessive traits made him the inferior clone but he's said to be wrong re: that 30 min later
that said the game still had nothing to say about genes though so yeah |
Doesn't the phone call at the end just say Solid was actually the one with the recessive traits and was therefore supposed to be inferior according to the game's wonky understanding of genetics.
But I think if the game doesn't say anything it's more because after snake rides off into the sunset saying he's not going to let his genes, family etc. determine who he is and what he does he's right back to destroying metal gears and performing assassinations for the government in 2 and 4.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:51 am |
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I could of swore Kojima even came out in some interview saying he got the gene stuff all wrong.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:34 pm |
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<font=heavymetal>REVENGERACE
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| Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:54 am |
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David and Eli, is that some biblical thing?
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:20 am |
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No John Doe you are the demons
Big Boss smuggling diamonds inside women to give to a bunch of black kids before he guns them all down can this game get any better
Really though isn't this what everyone always wanted from a prequel story about Big Boss. To stop dicking around where we're basically still playing as Solid Snake only in the sixties/seventies and get to the real deal Big Boss and Outer Heaven stuff. War orphans and child soldiers and Africa have been a part of Big Boss' background since Metal Gear 1 & 2. Anyway I thought sawing off the african president's head in the beginning of revengeance was worse than anything shown in this trailer.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:25 pm |
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Solidus and Raiden were in africa in the 90s. Don't think Raiden is even born yet.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:56 pm |
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| TXTSWORD wrote: |
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| Solidus and Raiden were in africa in the 90s. Don't think Raiden is even born yet. |
Nah dude someone check the timeline it was the 80s |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Liberian_Civil_War
MGS2 plant chapter is 2009. He'd be like 1 year old in MGSV at most.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:27 am |
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Ocelot wasn't even waterboarding anyone. He just dumped a bucket of water on the guy, who looked like Emmerich. Not that waterboarding is something Ocelot wouldn't do. They definitely weren't up to anything nice in that room. And Kaz overseeing it cause he's a crazed maniac now. Maybe that's his new recruitment process.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:11 am |
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| TXTSWORD wrote: |
| Guy in beret is absolutely not kaz |
Maybe not. They're dressed colonel campbell-y. If it's campbell I wonder if they'll ignore the story in portable ops.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:42 am |
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| TXTSWORD wrote: |
| I think I just don't WANT it to be Kaz. I like the way Kaz looks, I don't like the way that guy looks. Also, Kaz is shown other times in the trailer and does not have that face. |
The other times in the trailer he's just been pulled out of some hole he's been in for however many years being interrogated every day and probably wasn't getting all his nutritional needs met.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:30 pm |
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Yeah but you could also just run out of the tiny ass play area before the guard finishes talking on the radio to reset it too
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| Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:24 pm |
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I thought it was just his big boss tactical mind at work
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:31 am |
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Jeeze
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