[Felix]

I have to agree with Tulpa but Witcher 2 was so good I want to believe

[Dark Age Iron Savior]

did you miss the whole thing about the major new threat to society in this game/universe is people going crazy from too many robot parts in their body (also watching brain movies of serial killers)

well the trailer is pretty much going "why are the cops shooting this harmless looking woman who is not dressed for mixed company" and then it is going "oh look she has modified herself to have huge knives come out of her arms and she is surrounded by dead bodies" and then "here is a pretty obvious stand-in for your protagonist who has got himself into a position to deal a killshot that the cops weren't able to do".

And I don't think it's that hard to assume that perhaps this woman went crazy from sticking too many robot parts in her body and she went crazy and decided to become a killer cyborg. Because we have text from the developers saying that is what the game is about.

If you want to shift your complaint from "look at the glorification of violence against sexy women" to "wow that trailer is pretty bad at conveying what it is supposed to be about without reading the accompanying text", I will be 100% behind you. Otherwise, dude, shut up.

[Dracko]

cake, Mike Pondsmith is involved in the project so there's that.

For what it's worth, the woman doesn't get executed but hired by the psycho death squad. You can tell by the bullet wound on her cheek when she's smiling in the short end sequence. Not that the imagery isn't gratuitous and exploitative.
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[thestage]

[luvcraft]

[CubaLibre]

[Tulpa]

DAIS what part of going crazy from robot parts involves kneeling in a receptive pose in lingerie? Did the crazy killer cyborg decide they would wear a corset, panties and nothing else when they would go on a murder spree that night or was it happenstance? They happened to be going about their business walking around in their underwear on a city street and something snapped and they had to kill everyone?

At a basic level the trailer is just not believable and there's no actual justification or context for the woman's appearance, manners and dress except the non-diegetic context that this trailer would theoretically get more hits if there was some near naked lady in it.
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[Victor]

Murder/violence glorification more offensive, socially destructive than objectionable wardrobe and sexy posture; none of these will stop me from playing sexy robot death squad videogame if fun enough. Bored by silly teaser trailer, hopeful for another good game.

[Tulpa]

Victor what I'm trying to say is that the misogyny is tied into the murder/violence glorification, like I said in the first post where I tried to explain my pov, just objectifying a person, sexy pose and lack of clothing wouldn't be as bad if it weren't interwoven with all the death imagery
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[Dark Age Iron Savior]

I disagree with you and thestage and that's pretty much all I have to say.

[thestage]

one day you will bloom, daisy, even if there is no longer a world around to see it

[Teflon]

[cake]

Thanks for the explanation, Tulpa. It wasn't obvious to me - the only thing I could see that might be objectionable at first glance was the scantily clad women. The reason I asked is because those are present in the source material (see the Chromebook covers for examples), and it's quite easy to insert such images into a dystopian society where corporations are producing them to feed the desire for their products. I'm not claiming that this is the only (or even the main) reason for their inclusion (they are on every Chromebook cover, after all), but i don't think that it damages the believability of the setting very much. There are plenty of in-fiction reasons (as far the RPG goes) for the way the female character is dressed, but any created image can be explained in a multitude of ways, and it doesn't address the pattern of presenting women in such ways in videogames.

However, being able to alter one's body to such a large degree is one of the interesting parts of the RPG, I think - with enough money, any ideal image becomes 100% obtainable.

I don't think that showing a woman being attacked is necessarily misogynistic, but tying it into a pattern with the Hitman trailer (and perhaps the new Tomb Raider?) helps make the point a bit clearer. I guess it can see it more from the point of view that the woman is being subdued/enslaved by the cyberpsycho squad.


I've watched the trailer several more times now and it seems to me that the first scene is actually more of a dynamic diorama, by which I mean that a static scene has been created and then small elements have been moved (along with the camera) to make it seem more alive. There's not that much animation going on. I'm also wondering if it shows the starting point for the game, with the player character being someone who has succumbed to cyberpsychosis. Pretty interested to see how this turns out, especially with Mike Pondsmith being involved.

[mauve]

I actually got around to watching the trailer, and, uh... While it tells me somewhere between nothing and nothing about the game itself, I can say that nothing in there irritates me more than the guy holding the guy to her head. Because he's holding the gun wrong. Seriously what sort of professionals are these anyway?

The woman doesn't really bother me, aside from her obviously being placed in it because, well, sex sells, especially with the primary demographic that is being targeted. In single context it's not really that bad, it's only when taken with the broader context of female issues with the rest of the market that it starts being an issue. But that's really a demographic issue in my book.
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[tacotaskforce]

It really bugs me how little blood is on that woman. I do not buy that she sliced up ten people and just has a bit of blood on her corset and hand.

That cyber psychosis concept from the gamebook is also a hell of a stretch. Seems like a convenient way to make human-shaped monsters. I just hope that this game takes the V:TM Bloodlines path of improving upon the source material.
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[cake]

i think it was probably designed to stop the player characters having every single piece of cyberware.

[Tulpa]

[Hojulas]

[CubaLibre]

[Hojulas]

[remote]

Last I'd heard, Jasper Byrne had given up on New Game+, his game inspired by Zelda and Demon's Souls. I guess he announced a while ago that he was back on it, and I never caught wind of this. It looks cool! I want to play it!



Found here: http://indiestatik.com/2013/01/01/top-50-most-anticipated-indie-games-of-2013/

Tons of cool stuff on that list. Dang, man.
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[Brooks]

His brother has promised me there will be a variety of fab helmets

The Steve Swink thing looks MM:Legends-y

[Dracko]

Gaming in the Obama Years


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[boojiboy7]

wow.

[radish]

oh video games.

[sponkmonkey]

I can't believe this is a real thing
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[Take It Sleazy]

a hand painted miniature sexy mangled torso branded with a video game logotype for display in your home as a reward for buying a limited edition video game with dlc

[GrimmSweeper]

On a scale of 0 to Citizen Kane, this rates a B-movie sequel. Their original trailer? Independent arts film only shown on 35mm.

(I like this scale. Think I'll use it more often)

[cassievania]

combine this with all the sexism the first game had and it made me throw up
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[Felix]

good lord

[Ymer]

[spectralsound]

so let's see, so far we have this, Bioshock Infinite and Tomb Raider

wonder which game will be next to continue this year's bumper crop of disgusting misogynistic horseshit

maybe we'll get lucky and Sakamoto will make another Metroid
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[notbov]

oh, hey, La Mulana got greenlit for Steam

you can all stop being angry about its absence now and instead be angry over how long it took
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[remote]

... wow.

[mauve]

[GrimmSweeper]

So uh DmC is out now. The vocal fans are hammering it with terrible reviews, critics are giving it decent ones and its all giving videogame journalism plenty of fertile ground to write their articles.

[Takashi]

That's a really videogame journalism article.
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[special blend]

squeenix released a teaser image for some final fantasy thing

the teaser includes two silhouetted behemoths from final fantasy vi, some silhouetted final fantasy i character sprites (taken from the remakes), and uses that red-to-black color gradient from vi's logo


commenters on kotaku claiming that the character sprites are from vi which they very obviously aren't, but hey
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[Ni Go Zero Ichi]

SquEnix said not too long ago that they're planning to port V and VI to mobiles, so 99% sure that is what this is.

Which is a shame, because I remember when they were talking about giving V and VI proper remakes after they did III and IV. I think VI in particular could actually stabd to benefit from a remake, though it'll have to look and sound better than the DS ones.

So is DMC Devil May Cry A Ninja Theory Game actually any good? I played the demo and while the platforming was pretty crappy and the level design was obnoxiously setpiecey and linear, I have to admit that the combat seemed at least okay. As for the aesthetic, I can't decide whether I find it amusingly campy or absolutely intolerable on every level. (I don't consider myself a "fan" of Devil May Cry (I didn't even play the first game until I got the HD collection last tear) and even I'm offended by what they did to Dante.)

Will be curious to get the SB Verdict on this.
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[Felix]

I wouldn't mind FFIV DS coming to Android

[Lasakon]

FOR 2%ERS ONLY

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