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Persona mobile



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:30 am        Reply with quote

mauve wrote:
Dark Age Iron Savior wrote:
tell me about how Japan feels about the series please

Home Alone (R-18G)

edit: here's an LP of the second game, it's, um, popular

Man, I had a passing interest in the series because the heroines were always appealing, but after getting Trapt when it first came out, I find it hard to remain interested.

The games are all so ploddingly slow and clunky, and the payoff is rarely worth the time it takes to set everything up. It's a series that would benefit from ragdoll physics instead of the canned animations because it just feels so weak otherwise. Also if the game was sped up 5x faster and if it was a on touch screen so you could just set traps by touching instead of menus.

The new game's heroine's design is pretty great though. Unfortunately, the game still looks every bit as clunky as the last one.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:19 pm        Reply with quote

Felix wrote:
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Sony announced a day one firmware patch for PS4

you need this patch to things, like play games online, talk to other people and play Blu-rays and DVDs

the Sony hype train has derailed, neogaf is in disarray, Xbone now the more feature complete system, Wii Us laughing at PS4s on shelves worldwide

day one console patches: the new normal


this is either a way to ensure they get data from the install base or a way for them to accelerate the manufacturing process before the software was done

either way it's nbd and I am sure they will perpetrate way worse stuff upon consumers in the following years


we know that it's almost entirely the fault of getting to manufacturing as soon as possible (they've been saying that they've been pumping systems out since at least around E3, especially since they have a 5 million sold estimate for FY14), so the idea of there being an update in of itself isn't surprising (aside from some missing features shown at the reveal, like low-power suspend and upload to YouTube)

what's surprising is the reaction some people are having to it, which I, as a cynical consumer, am greatly enjoying
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 4:30 pm        Reply with quote

Sony failing to deliver is like an industry standard.

100% sure the blue-ray/dvd is just an activation so they are not paying the MPEG licenses in every single console.

I wonder if you can sideload this as you could with the PS3 updates.

Low power suspend being missing is a bit interesting. It's possible it didn't went through the FCC/some regulatory body soon enough, or they might have messed it up entirely.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:28 pm        Reply with quote

AFAIK, both the PS4 and One had been cleared with the FCC in late June or early July (more interestingly, before either of upclocks the One received to its CPU and GPU), so it may just be a problem of implementation.

I'm surprised they haven't said anything about including the firmware on any of the launch titles' discs, although they still have a plug-and-play product (the One is requiring an internet connection as part of its setup). I'm holding out hope that they'll release the update pre-download like they do for the PS3 and Vita.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:39 pm        Reply with quote

notbov wrote:
Sony announced a day one firmware patch for PS4

you need this patch to things, like play games online, talk to other people and play Blu-rays and DVDs

the Sony hype train has derailed, neogaf is in disarray, Xbone now the more feature complete system, Wii Us laughing at PS4s on shelves worldwide

day one console patches: the new normal
oh sh#### i have to connect my ps4 to the internet to use features i could only use if i was connected to the internet epic fail for the fkcuking lose another point on the board for microsoft lol giant enemy crab
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:07 pm        Reply with quote

I think you think I care about this more than I actually do

this seems pretty i line with the exiting generation, where the 360, dashboard revisions aside, was much more well-rounded and usable system than the PS3 w/r/t interface (my favorite thing is how the 360 will auto-detect what kind of AV cable is plugged into it and I don't have to set that all up every time I plug into a new display)

besides, the real meat of "lolconsolewarz" will be if these resolution rumors are true

(everyone brings up giant enemy crabs, but no one remembers Ridge Racer :( )
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:40 pm        Reply with quote

Persona mobile wrote:
Man, I had a passing interest in the series because the heroines were always appealing, but after getting Trapt when it first came out, I find it hard to remain interested.

yeah, I don't think anyone's under the illusion that the games are actually any good, just kinda quirky and ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:12 pm        Reply with quote

North America finally gets Umihara Kawase...as Yumi's Odd Odyssey?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:53 am        Reply with quote

Texican Rude wrote:
North America finally gets Umihara Kawase...as Yumi's Odd Odyssey?


A North American eShop port of the 3DS entry in the series "Sayonara Umihara Kawase" (in case anyone is wondering).
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 3:18 am        Reply with quote

shoulda ported the ds compilation cart
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:08 am        Reply with quote

http://fast.shinen.com/neo/

Scifi racer alert!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:54 am        Reply with quote

WiiU? Cmooooooon
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:01 am        Reply with quote

They have Nintenboners.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:47 am        Reply with quote

CubaLibre wrote:
WiiU? Cmooooooon

Also eShope :/
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:30 am        Reply with quote

This Clang sword fighting game has potential, though I willn't be buying any motion control doo-dads to play wit it:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/260688528/clang

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=132179846
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:53 pm        Reply with quote

Quote:

Onechanbara Z: Kagura With NoNoNo (PS3, D3 Publisher): 8, 9, 8, 7 - (32/40)
Metal Max 4: Gekkou no Diva (3DS, Kadokawa Shoten): 9, 9, 9, 8 - (35/40)
Rocksmith 2014 Edition (PS3/360, Ubisoft): 9, 9, 9, 9 - (36/40)
NBA 2K14 (PS3/360, 2K Sports): 9, 9, 8, 8 - (34/40)
Akiba’s Trip 2 (PS3/Vita, Acquire): 9, 8, 8, 8 - (33/40)
Wonderbook: Book of Spells (PS3, Sony): 8, 7, 8, 8 - (31/40)
Exstetra (3DS, FuRyu): 8, 8, 7, 7 - (30/40)
Glass Heart Princess: Platinum (PSP, Idea Factory): 8, 8, 8,6 - (30/40)
Tamagotchi! Session no Dream School (3DS, Bandai Namco): 8, 7, 8,6 - (29/40)


THE BEST WEEK FOR JAPANESE VIDEO GAMES EVER. WHINE WHINE REVIEW SCORES ARE A LIE WHINE WHINE NOTHING IS OUTRIGHT WRONG SO HERE'S AN 8 WHINEWHINEWHIENWHINEWHINE
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:32 pm        Reply with quote

i've never read a famitsu review but they must be the most boring things in existance
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:38 am        Reply with quote

still need to post that Shining Soul 2 commentary on Japanese magazines

okay, those Metal Max 4 scores can't be real
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:55 am        Reply with quote

I didn't notice it anywhere else on the forum so:

SONY (and possibly MS) are about to get some backlash, I imagine.

this FAQ outlines what you can and cannot do, with a PS4.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/30/ps4-the-ultimate-faq-north-america/#sect1


and the topic of this post is:

PS4 has no DLNA support (multimedia streaming over a network), does not play MP3s or Audio CDs (the only music you can play must be purchased/subscribed to from Sony's Music Unliminted service).

That's right: no CD support, No CD ripping, no local MP3 support and no MP3 via DLNA means you are effectively blocked from using any of your existing music collection on PS4 for general listening or for custom game soundtracks. You will have to buy or stream music via Sony's Music Unlimited service.

unofficial confirmation that Xbone also does not allow MP3 playback. No word yet on DLNA. But the 360 I believe only supported media streaming through Windows Media Player/Center, rather than true DLNA support. So MAYBE that will make it in the Xbone?

This, combined with no analog audio, really bums me out.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:47 am        Reply with quote

....they still play games, right?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:51 am        Reply with quote

Toptube wrote:
PS4 has no DLNA support (multimedia streaming over a network), does not play MP3s or Audio CDs (the only music you can play must be purchased/subscribed to from Sony's Music Unliminted service).

That's right: no CD support, No CD ripping, no local MP3 support and no MP3 via DLNA means you are effectively blocked from using any of your existing music collection on PS4 for general listening or for custom game soundtracks. You will have to buy or stream music via Sony's Music Unlimited service.

Holy fuckin shit. I was thinking of getting a PS4 just to replace my 3 as my television streaming/living room box but fuck that now.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:15 am        Reply with quote

You also can't take recorded videos off the hard drive. You can only upload them to Facebook. HDCP during games will be disabled via a post-launch patch so capture devices are a no-go until then. There's a lot of other dumb stuff in there too. At least arcades sticks are confirmed to work. It's better than nothing I guess.

The question on whether you can purchase stuff from other regions wasn't actually answered by the answer either so I don't know whether the question was side-stepped or the editor skimmed over that.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:17 am        Reply with quote

wait what

the fact that I can do that on a linux box without even having to agree to use non-open-source drivers as used to be the case means the licensing fees should actually be nonexistent

unless they're getting dinged on commercial use clauses and trying to save $2/unit? but even so

I mean, I have a linux box in my living room so I'd never feel the need for this, and I don't really use physical media anymore, any more than the next guy, but still

dummies
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:20 am        Reply with quote

CubaLibre wrote:
Toptube wrote:
PS4 has no DLNA support (multimedia streaming over a network), does not play MP3s or Audio CDs (the only music you can play must be purchased/subscribed to from Sony's Music Unliminted service).

That's right: no CD support, No CD ripping, no local MP3 support and no MP3 via DLNA means you are effectively blocked from using any of your existing music collection on PS4 for general listening or for custom game soundtracks. You will have to buy or stream music via Sony's Music Unlimited service.

Holy fuckin shit. I was thinking of getting a PS4 just to replace my 3 as my television streaming/living room box but fuck that now.


I recommend the SONY BDP-S390 Blu-ray player. It's a 2012 model. I have one. While it doesn't play EVERYTHING, It has a better than average file support via Fat32 or NTFS formatted thumb drive. As well as DLNA. It's pretty dang quiet, uses much less power. My only real complaint with mine is that about once a month, it will just wig out and reset itself, while kicking through menus.

If you get one, make sure to update the firmware. It makes it load Blu-ray discs more quickly and fixes RGB output. It wasn't any slower than a PS3, but now it should load a bit faster.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:21 am        Reply with quote

Well yeah but the PS3 also plays like PS3 games. So I think I'll just stick with that.

EDIT: And PS2 games! I have an old school 60GB.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:23 am        Reply with quote

CubaLibre wrote:
Well yeah but the PS3 also plays like PS3 games. So I think I'll just stick with that.

EDIT: And PS2 games! I have an old school 60GB.


My 60GB still plays DVDs and PS2 games, but not PS3 games/Blu-rays : \

that's why I bought the blu-ray player.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:50 pm        Reply with quote

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i've never read a famitsu review but they must be the most boring things in existance

Imagine a boot regurgitating bullet points from the back of the box, forever
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:17 pm        Reply with quote

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/31/playstation-plus-november-preview/

holy fuck, this PS+ update

guess I'll be playing Dragon's Dogma up until the 15th
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Deets wrote:
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i've never read a famitsu review but they must be the most boring things in existance

Imagine a boot regurgitating bullet points from the back of the box, forever


blood potion.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:53 pm        Reply with quote

man us plus isn't half as good as euro plus

who would have thought
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:02 pm        Reply with quote

whatever, go back to your free MGR Revengence and let us enjoy our meager scraps

edit: this came off a lot more bitter than I had hoped

still jealous though.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:49 pm        Reply with quote

Remember when a perfect score from Famitsu or Edge used to be a once-in-a-generation event?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:14 pm        Reply with quote

Remember when Gamespot gave Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 a perfect score? Gotta love that revert.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:37 pm        Reply with quote

notbov wrote:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/31/playstation-plus-november-preview/

holy fuck, this PS+ update

guess I'll be playing Dragon's Dogma up until the 15th


Well, I guess I finally get to try that game. Almost disappointed that I've already played Binary Domain.
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notbov wrote:
whatever, go back to your free MGR Revengence and let us enjoy our meager scraps

edit: this came off a lot more bitter than I had hoped

still jealous though.


swap you for smt4????
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Wow this game went from uninteresting to gross pretty damn quick. A shame because the graphics are sort of nice and I might have played it just to gawk at some visuals when this hit the bargain bin.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:12 am        Reply with quote

Yeah my opinion about this is about the same! I still want to try it. (The only one that actually liked Ninja Gaiden 3).
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:18 am        Reply with quote

What in god's name.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:43 am        Reply with quote

I might be ruined by vidcons in general but I didn't find it any grosser than Saints Row IV(I haven't played it yet, just seen various material about it). I'm willing to give it a fair shake once I hear how the combat plays out. The only thing I'm not really sold on is having zombies as the defacto baddies unless their going to be the fierce and active kind.
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