What's a good USB controller?

bza · Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:08 pm

my mx518 lasted about 7 years before i replaced it with a g400 late last year
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Anybody have any experience with the Hori FPS Assault pads?

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Bennett, what's the game?
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To date, I think I've gone through two Logitech Dual Actions, one Saitek and two USB Saturns. I don't know why controllers are always breaking on me. game2hard

I swear by the Saturn pad, but I'm wary of ready-made USB solutions. First was a Retrolink which gave me a shock much like reaching under a vehicle to grasp the clammy hand of a dead lover, that died after 20 minutes of Twinkle Star Sprites. Second came in a plastic bag and looked and felt like an authentic controller, but only survived 6 months. Eventually I went for a Bliss-box with a stock pad and that was a Great Decision. Only regret is that I didn't splurge for a second port, and/or another port for a Gamecube pad, because for all the discomfort those have given me over the years I've come to realize how indispensable analog sticks with octagonal grooves are. Anything less makes Super Monkey Ball really depressing.

tiburon · Joined: 26 Sep 2012

Bumping this because my Hori Pad EX2 Turbo just broke. It's been almost 4 months, and the left trigger no longer registers. I can hear something rattling around in there. Anybody had any similar issues?

Also, anybody have one they're willing to sell? The prices on Amazon are kinda ridiculous right now. I just wanna play videogames~
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have a saitek p220 myself....
performs... adequately....
get somethin' else if you want to game...

(somethin' else being a usb saturn pad, as I've heard...)
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Good USB saturn pads are impossible to find

You could go try to pinch one off all the Shoryuken fatties who bought 10 each, but who knows if they'll part with them.

What I did for my second one was I just bought a cheapo hong-kong one and a real saturn pad, then just swapped the PCBs. It's p. easy and works p. well. Shoulder buttons require a little too much force, but I never use them anyway, so.

shnozlak · Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 10:33 pm

You can prolly swap in mouse switches for a little lighter action.
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Bacon&Onions · banned Joined: 07 Jun 2013

I cannot say enough times how much I love using my classic controllers to play old video games.
I use this usb connector
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003711698
and xpadder's software to convert it into key presses when needed.

Even if you don't already own two classic controllers they sell on amazon for $11 meaning you can get two top notch gaming controllers running off your pc for a little over $40 that's a hell of a deal.

In my opinion the classic controler is the best ever made.

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so i bought a hori fighting commander 3 pro pad and i love it to death.

now i want a dual analogue pad that will do the equivalent for 3d games, since i've realized i sort of hate the sticks and buttons on the official 360 pad. given that i already have the fc3p, is there any reason to get another pad with 6 face buttons?

trying to decide between
http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Pad-EX-Turbo-Black/dp/B002LT9PXQ
and
http://www.amazon.com/HORI-PS3-FPS-Assault-3-PlayStation/dp/B008XHCMLM

i only play on pc so the system doesn't matter. i slightly prefer the bigger buttons and equally-spaced sticks on the ps3 pad, but that led is pretty fucking ugly. curious about the form factor on the 360 pad since i've seen complaints the fps assault is over-sized and i don't have big monster hands. mention of the buttons on the ex 2 feeling good are enticing, reed's faulty trigger is not.....

Tulpa · Joined: 31 Jul 2008

What are the options for a good controller now that those hori pads are going for >150 dollars?

Is the hori gem pad any good? It looks hideous but I don't care too much about that.
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Note that while I haven't used this specific pad I have used pads from Mad Catz that are effectively this model for years now, and I can say that after having had them for a long time and putting them through intensive use, I've never had a problem with them.

http://www.amazon.com/Mad-Catz-Street-Fighter-Tekken-FightPad/dp/B006ZTHGDO/ref=sr_1_14?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1385763215&sr=1-14&keywords=mad+catz+360+usb+controller

If you like six-button pads, they're definitely my favorite after Saturn USB controllers (which are now rare dinosaurs).
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So moral of the story here is, a) Glad I bought 3 of them, and b) Never parting with these things.

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You know I actually got my DS4 to work with Dark Souls, until it stopped working. Back to the old 360.

Really should get a DS2 with USB adapter, that never failed.
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Tulpa · Joined: 31 Jul 2008

yah I'm glad I bought one of those usb saturn pads off of you talbain

but I'm mostly keeping an eye out for something I can use with the xbox 360
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BotageL · Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:13 am

Fun fact: the PDP pads basically always die within six months.
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There are two ways I have found so far to get games to think a Dualshock 4 is an xbox 360 controller.

This wrapper is a relatively straightforward, low-maintenance way to do it, based off the Scarlet.Crush Dualshock 3 wrapper (which is much less dodgy than motioninjoy - it doesn't connect to mystery servers in China, for a start).

The limitation of that method is that it will send button presses in BOTH DirectInput and Xinput. If a game listens for both weird things happen, so use x360ce (xbox 360 controller emulator) instead. This needs to be set up individually for each game, as it involves placing files it generates into the executable folder of the game.

Dark Souls works with x360ce. If you want to use dsfix as well you need to rename the dinput8.dll file x360ce makes to something else and put that filename in the dll chaining section of the dsfix.ini. Make sure it doesn't overwrite dsfix's dinput8.dll! That'll break things! (If you are using another fix like dscfix there is a dll chaining section in their .ini files as well, for e.g. chain dsfix > dscfix.dll > x360's dinput.dll)

I think the controller hardware is a big improvement on the dualshock 3. It is a lot more comfortable to hold and use, they have eliminated the spongy feeling from the triggers and the face buttons. I much prefer the stiffer sticks and they are in a more comfortable position as well. Disappointed by the lack of the official software support they seemed to have promised. They could also have put a micro usb cable into the package.

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Yeah, all clicky all over. I really like the feel of the clicky buttons, but the d-pad/stick isn't perfect for (S)NES games. I payed $15 for mine, though, and at that price it's perfect.

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Don't forget Exar released a USB version of the Neo CD pad as well.
Barely peeking into the frame is the Fighting Commander 3 and black Saturn USB controllers on either side. Damn that must be like $150 in game controllers.

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This Machine Kills Fascis · Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:48 am

Is there any reason you Saturn pad lovers don't just use a real pad with a USB converter?

Most people seem to be saying the newer Mayflash adapter is lag-free, though at least one YouTube commenter say it does.... Maybe hit-or-miss?

http://www.amazon.com/Sega-Saturn-Controller-Adapter-Not-Specified/dp/B006ZBHXEO/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1385955319&sr=1-3&keywords=sega+saturn+controller+usb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62QEEN1yuzY
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This Machine Kills Fascis · Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:15 am

Yeah. I'm guessing people just assume that any converter creates lag, despite the fact that stuff like eTokki's PS2-to-360 converter are Shoryuken approved.

And yeah: both are relatively cheap, and the kind of people who want a USB Saturn pad often own a regular Saturn pad.

If I grab one of these converters I'll report back to the camp, though I don't play a lot of emulated games and I'm happy with the stick I used on the 360, so it
might be later, rather than sooner.
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Talbain · Joined: 14 Jan 2007

I use the 360 and Mad Catz 6 Button pad for the majority of my games, even most of the games I play emulated. The reason I personally like the Saturn pad is because the pad itself is better than any pad I've used before or since. I'm indifferent towards the buttons. The buttons are ok, but nothing exceptional. I think the PS3 controller has the best buttons and a really good pad, but not as nicely rounded as the Saturn's.

I want to try the new Steam pad, because that thing looks exceptionally interesting from a "feel" perspective.
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nothingxs · Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:30 pm

jumping into the mouse / kb discussion a bit late (very late), but

the zowie am mouse (now sold by monoprice as the mp-am) has an amazing sensor and basically feels like the 1.1a intellimouse and doesn't have stupid sensitivity settings. it also doesn't correct your shit.
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when gamers like a controller, we will pay through the nose for it. i'm honestly surprised someone out there doesn't just keep churning out controllers just like how some makers will churn out a mouse / keyboard for decades.

though i would buy retrousb stuff if they were half the price they are listed for. they are always sold out so others must just really like the SNES controller.

for 3 years i've been trying to find a couple of Innovation ps2-->DC converters. i've found it only once and they wanted 80 for it, i scoffed! i just want to use HRAP2s on everything!