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notbov
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| nothingxs wrote: |
jumping into the mouse / kb discussion a bit late (very late), but
the zowie am mouse (now sold by monoprice as the mp-am) has an amazing sensor and basically feels like the 1.1a intellimouse and doesn't have stupid sensitivity settings. it also doesn't correct your shit. |
holy shit
you best not be lying
I love my 1.1a, but it's clearly on its way out and I wasn't smart enough to stock up on 'em when Microcenter had bins of the things for 12 bucks a pop
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rye
Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:56 pm |
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Guys, help me understand why the saturn controller is good. I want to like it, because SEGA and charm, but I just find that d-pad so loose and floppy, like pressing down on some frisbee balanced on top of a parking cone… three adjacent buttons makes my brain confused because sometimes I'll be between two, but not sure which two, or I'll need to reach from the first to third and it just takes too long to get there… I just don't get it.
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Talbain
Joined: 14 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:48 pm |
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| Booter wrote: |
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| USB Saturn pads are currently running, at a minimum, $80-100 on the rare occasion you can actually find them on ebay, meanwhile, converters plus old Saturn pads will run you maybe $40 and are and were cheaper than buying USB Saturn Pads even when there were a lot of them. |
wtf wow. I remember a few years back Saturn USB pads were like 2/$25 from Hong Kong. They might've been the "knockoff" ones (which were probably of good quality), but still. |
There was a brief period where, before the manufacturer in China went out of business, the Saturn USB pads were sold again online (this period was a few weeks at the most, and many were bought and put immediately up for resale at very high prices). The purpose of selling them though was to attempt to recoup expenses as the business was going under.
There aren't a ton of them on the market anymore but if you're willing to hunt and spend a good deal, they're still available. The period where they were cheaply available didn't last long and even when I got my pads imported it was $40 per pad. I do believe they originally sold in Japan for about $40, but I can't recall their MSRP.
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dementia
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:25 am |
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when gamers like a controller, we will pay through the nose for it. i'm honestly surprised someone out there doesn't just keep churning out controllers just like how some makers will churn out a mouse / keyboard for decades.
though i would buy retrousb stuff if they were half the price they are listed for. they are always sold out so others must just really like the SNES controller.
for 3 years i've been trying to find a couple of Innovation ps2-->DC converters. i've found it only once and they wanted 80 for it, i scoffed! i just want to use HRAP2s on everything! |
The Total Control converters aren't laggy, are they? They make a PS->DC adapter.
And if you want to use HRAP2 on everything else, tototek probably makes it.
http://www.tototek.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=23 |
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Schwere Viper
Joined: 14 Feb 2007
Location: Western Australia
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| Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:25 pm |
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| rye wrote: |
| Guys, help me understand why the saturn controller is good. I want to like it, because SEGA and charm, but I just find that d-pad so loose and floppy, like pressing down on some frisbee balanced on top of a parking cone… three adjacent buttons makes my brain confused because sometimes I'll be between two, but not sure which two, or I'll need to reach from the first to third and it just takes too long to get there… I just don't get it. |
I like the Sega directional pad so much admittedly because I grew up with it, but another reason is that it's easy to hit any of the eight directions without much pressure. Instead of having to move my thumb over two parts of a cross pad, I just rock my thumb gently in the direction. The concave shape of the raised cross part of the pad means you don't have to shift your thumb out of the center much to press any side of it down. Again, it's more of a rocking motion rather than a press.
I've heard people have trouble and accidentally press a diagonal instead of a cardinal in tense moments, and that's understandable. The pad just needs a more delicate touch. Once you train that into your thumb, it'll never let you down. As an aside, the Sega Saturn directional pad needs a bit more force applied to it, and doesn't have as much tactile feedback as the original Mega Drive Six-button Controller, IMHO.
The buttons make complete sense once you lay the right side of the controller on your knee and use your index, middle and ring fingers for A, B and C. :>
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rye
Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:07 pm |
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So play the buttons like a mini-arcade stick? That makes sense. I'll have to try that next time I have one in my hands!
I grew up a nintendo kid, and nobody I knew had a megadrive, so my only sega-controller experience was with the saturn-pad (the japanese staturn pad is still a shape I really like looking at).
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eskaibo
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| Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:38 pm |
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| notbov wrote: |
| nothingxs wrote: |
jumping into the mouse / kb discussion a bit late (very late), but
the zowie am mouse (now sold by monoprice as the mp-am) has an amazing sensor and basically feels like the 1.1a intellimouse and doesn't have stupid sensitivity settings. it also doesn't correct your shit. |
holy shit
you best not be lying
I love my 1.1a, but it's clearly on its way out and I wasn't smart enough to stock up on 'em when Microcenter had bins of the things for 12 bucks a pop |
tell me about this please i'm prob gonna get some o those earphones from monoprice and if i should get this mouse in the same order i'd like to knowwww
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Talbain
Joined: 14 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:57 pm |
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| Schwere Viper wrote: |
| rye wrote: |
| Guys, help me understand why the saturn controller is good. I want to like it, because SEGA and charm, but I just find that d-pad so loose and floppy, like pressing down on some frisbee balanced on top of a parking cone… three adjacent buttons makes my brain confused because sometimes I'll be between two, but not sure which two, or I'll need to reach from the first to third and it just takes too long to get there… I just don't get it. |
I like the Sega directional pad so much admittedly because I grew up with it, but another reason is that it's easy to hit any of the eight directions without much pressure. Instead of having to move my thumb over two parts of a cross pad, I just rock my thumb gently in the direction. The concave shape of the raised cross part of the pad means you don't have to shift your thumb out of the center much to press any side of it down. Again, it's more of a rocking motion rather than a press.
I've heard people have trouble and accidentally press a diagonal instead of a cardinal in tense moments, and that's understandable. The pad just needs a more delicate touch. Once you train that into your thumb, it'll never let you down. As an aside, the Sega Saturn directional pad needs a bit more force applied to it, and doesn't have as much tactile feedback as the original Mega Drive Six-button Controller, IMHO.
The buttons make complete sense once you lay the right side of the controller on your knee and use your index, middle and ring fingers for A, B and C. :> |
My hands are big enough where I can actually wrap my thumb over all three buttons if there's a press that needs something like that. I've tried doing the taps by putting it on my lap and it felt awkward.
I will say however that I am terrible at controlling an arcade stick though. The ball of it just feels weird to me. I still feel like the Hitbox Controller is probably the technically best-designed controller, even if it's only really well designed for 2D fighters.
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nothingxs
various methods of escape
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: Miami, FL
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| Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:29 am |
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| eskaibo wrote: |
| notbov wrote: |
| nothingxs wrote: |
jumping into the mouse / kb discussion a bit late (very late), but
the zowie am mouse (now sold by monoprice as the mp-am) has an amazing sensor and basically feels like the 1.1a intellimouse and doesn't have stupid sensitivity settings. it also doesn't correct your shit. |
holy shit
you best not be lying
I love my 1.1a, but it's clearly on its way out and I wasn't smart enough to stock up on 'em when Microcenter had bins of the things for 12 bucks a pop |
tell me about this please i'm prob gonna get some o those earphones from monoprice and if i should get this mouse in the same order i'd like to knowwww |
well the guy who designed it was a 1.6 pro so
also http://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/boards/g/img/0270/48/1345524434082.jpg
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Schwere Viper
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scratchmonkey
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Joined: 21 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:43 am |
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| notbov wrote: |
| nothingxs wrote: |
jumping into the mouse / kb discussion a bit late (very late), but
the zowie am mouse (now sold by monoprice as the mp-am) has an amazing sensor and basically feels like the 1.1a intellimouse and doesn't have stupid sensitivity settings. it also doesn't correct your shit. |
holy shit
you best not be lying
I love my 1.1a, but it's clearly on its way out and I wasn't smart enough to stock up on 'em when Microcenter had bins of the things for 12 bucks a pop |
He's not, I just got one for the ol' Christmas/birthday and that's pretty much exactly what they tried to do (although it's 4x more than those 1.1as would have been). |
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dementia
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:28 pm |
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Good news for folks wanting to buy a Fighting Commander 3 Pro, but not keen on blowing over $100+ on a used one.
Hori has just released the Fighting Commander 4, which is compatible with both PS3 and PS4 (and presumably PC)
Amiami has them back-ordered, and Play-Asia has them for preorder (expected ship date 6/17). |
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