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Ronk
saucy Scott Pilgrim fanfic
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 Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:57 am |
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How I'm reading this is that in order to avoid potentially having every single game element interpreted as rape (by psychopaths and random white dudes on the internet) the developers should have gone out of their way to create a universe that has no violence between humans. Why should this even be a concern of theirs? If shows like CSI and Law and Order SVU can expressly acknowledge that rape exists why does this game have to walk on eggshells about presenting an evil man who's trying to kill a woman because it might accidentally come off as rape?
They should certainly try their hardest to avoid allusions to rape given the context, but they've done this. It's clear to anyone who's played the game that these men are out to kill. Is appeasing people who have already written your game off due to use mismanaged marketing really enough cause to redo the whole game?
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I am not trying to pick on you or be stubborn but I feel like I should point out that you are specifically trying to defend the human-on-human violence in this game after having complained that the general non-gamer public sees games as being about nothing but violence.
And again, the issue here is not that there is outright rape in the game, it's that the overall narrative is peddling in the idea that a young attractive female character can only achieve legitimacy as an action protagonist if she is made vulnerable to and endures intense physical and emotional violence and hardship. This is the central conceit of the game's narrative and the entire experience (perhaps unavoidably) takes on a cruel and fetishistic texture as a result. Context, people, context. |
i am however going to be the jerk and jump in to say that a show like Law and Order: SVU does what it does because it's a procedural crime drama that deals almost exclusively with crimes about rape and sexual assault, while this is (supposed to be) a game that tells the origin story about a woman who jumps around tombs, solving puzzles and finding treasure. why was this specifically something that needed to be told as an origin story for this specific character? and i agree with armed police catrider (and others itt) in thinking that they made it just to service the trope that "women need to go through this kind of fucking hell to be strong heroes" narrative.
i mean cuba's tomb raider reboot has plenty of opportunities for struggle, danger, thrills and empowerment that would've made sense for her character, without any cover based shooting or questionable psychopaths. i mean lara was shooting people in the old games but even then it wasn't cover based and even then no one was super rapey.
it just feels totally unnecessary. like what if the uncharted reboot for ps4 was about a young nathan drake who was kidnapped overseas and forced to see his parents violently executed by gunpoint and that's why he's a lovable quipster who hunts for treasure and shoots dudes?
like i get this is supposed to be a "reboot" but this isn't even the same fucking franchise anymore other than you're controlling a lara croft.
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Ronk
saucy Scott Pilgrim fanfic
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| Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:05 am |
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like jesus, before this thread i had just kind of an indifferent to negative view of this reboot, having some problems with the trailers but figuring that maybe i'll play the game and now i've researched and seen a playthrough and have heard some of the defenses itt and i'm actively disgusted by this game even existing. beyond the unnecessary thrashing of lara's character, it's just a lazy uncharted clone that has optional tombs. fucking miserable.
but at the very least, this has gotten me interested in playing tomb raider anniversary. (i haven't played any tomb raiders since the first four on playstation.)
also i feel like Film Crit Hulk's write-up about Batman: Arkham City has some merit in this discussion.
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