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Professional Forecast for FFXIII Accent Core Agito Hyper TURBO Championship RR++ International Zodiac Edition
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II
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III
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IV
0%
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V
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VI - III == III
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X-2
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9.9b based on projected Metacritics score of 9.99999999
22%
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gets canned during production due to new boss
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Gironika



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:09 am    Post subject: [SQEX-W6] The Metacritics Business Decision WEEK III (us)    Reply with quote

Q: If [unnamed company] isn't too busy with making Metacritic-based Business-decisions and TRON-swag, they tend to develop seven [generic RPG-name]-titles at the same time, cancel three, bring only two of them over and fuck up at least one out of two releases with weird decisions like putting a three where a six would belong. They are also buying a new company every twenty seconds and expect to sell twice the amount of the installed hardware basis for each game they release. And just some days ago, the Boss™ decided to hand over duties asap and change professions - Seppukuru*-manager is very likely his next job.

What am I talking 'bout?

You might have guessed it, it is time for

again.


"Wait", I hear you sayin', "didn't we already 'ave us un three some years ago?"
Indeed, right you are, but since this the sixth SQEX-week and a US-version of it, it's basically a no-brainer to slap a three there instead of a six and be as professional about it as only a Microsoft employee can be:
~~DEAL WITH IT~~



Flashback:
Last year



So, what's up this year?
Well,

  • I'm going to take a look at barking, working and sleeping dogs
  • jacking my mind in Mindjack™
  • present an underground social network service that 99% have never heard of
  • might write something about FFX before the PS3 HD-rerererererereleases are out
  • will wait for the postman to deliver two (SQEX-)games I've bought recently
  • will boot a reboot to have some booty boo… - some Raidin' Action.
  • will devise and present some strategies how SQEX can be rescued from oblivion
  • and I'll kick off a social media phenomenon that will take the world by storm. Heard it here first!



Alas, feel free to hop in and come along for a roller-coaster ride that's as bad as The Bouncer or Driving Emotion Type-S! Grab a cam, take some pixx, twatter around the world in materiabooks; be it Eidos, Taito, Enix or SQUARE, play to your hearts content.

And always keep in mind that
Quote:
The World Ends Without You





*: typos ahoy:
entering "lseppukuru" on bing netted me this link as #1-search result:
http://archive.2ch-ranking.net/ogame/1330695026.html

→ Indeed, it actually is this time of the year again.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:31 am        Reply with quote

whoa I remember that Mindjack game. but I guess I thought it got cancelled? like every other square game?

was Final Fantasy X Bioshock Infinite before Bioshock Infinite was Bioshock Infinite? it maybe was! as FFX marked more or less then end of the Golden Age of JRPG mainstream success and critical focus, will Bioshock Infinite do the same for the FPS? probably not! but maybe in smaller, more nuanced ways. maybe I will think about this.

I am interested in the legacy of Xenogears, though I'm not sure why. it forms a kind of trilogy with FFVIII and Chrono Cross--the height of square hubris and decadence, of their audiovisual prowess and their cult like authority over a given form, the what-have-we-here steps after the monstrous lurch of FFVII--but something sets it apart, I think. maybe I will think about this.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:38 am        Reply with quote

Someone give me a Squeenix game, ANY game, I can play on my PSP and I shall make it my task.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:27 pm        Reply with quote

Ymer wrote:
Someone give me a Squeenix game, ANY game, I can play on my PSP and I shall make it my task.


Through official means or otherwise?
If the former, try Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions. If the latter, try Final Fantasy V (GBA ver. since SNES emulation on PSP is butt).
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:17 pm        Reply with quote

Hmm. I should use this as an excuse to dig through my sqex backlock and see what I can find. Maybe I'll finally go through FF2. It's the one main-numbered non-online Final Fantasy I haven't finished in some form or other. A good one to have not finished admittedly, but still.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:57 pm        Reply with quote

I have a copy of STAR OCEAN: THE LAST HOPE on my desk, which I got at a Gamestop for like $9.

Let's rock.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:02 pm        Reply with quote

So much I want to play right now, but I may have to take a detour for a little SaGa Frontier and/or Minstrel Song. FFXII emulated in 1080p widescreen is tempting.

Chrono Cross will happen later this summer.

Maybe I'll stop and actually finish Nier, since I have to admit I never did. I have no idea why. I was pretty into it. It's harder for me to sit on the couch with a console away from my PC, I guess, but man, come on. I know Nier deserves the time.

The timing of this is fitting, actually, since I just revisited the sb Square Enix podcast. Where folks talked about Kingdom Hearts for way too long and never once mentioned Xenogears.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:58 pm        Reply with quote

I've been slowly grinding through a Final Fantasy Tactics run for the first time in a couple years, after watching a hilarious solo run on Nico. (4:24)

Still love this game to bits, endless flaws and all.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:05 pm        Reply with quote

I've been playing Drakenguard lately, and then I'm going to replay Neir. Neither will be worked on this week, but too bad.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:38 pm        Reply with quote

Have you guys played Kane & Lynch 2: Dog Days? A really underappreciated gem, that one. Good on Square-Enix.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:43 pm        Reply with quote

I also have to give Square credit for managing to concentrate my dark libidinous id and press it for mass release with a recent AAA title.

I'm of course referring to Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:28 pm        Reply with quote

Let's make this the week I finish Nier, then! And check out that FFTactics:WoL rebalance hack.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:44 pm        Reply with quote

Guess I have to get my PSP back from my friend so that I can play Type-Zero.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 6:47 pm        Reply with quote

play 4 heroes of light
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:16 am        Reply with quote

Speaking of DS games, Chocobo Tales, people! I don't really play many card based games but CT is interesting from what I remember.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:54 pm        Reply with quote

Gideon Zhi wrote:
Hmm. I should use this as an excuse to dig through my sqex backlock and see what I can find. Maybe I'll finally go through FF2. It's the one main-numbered non-online Final Fantasy I haven't finished in some form or other. A good one to have not finished admittedly, but still.

FF1,2,3,5 are the "only" ones - well, technically X-2, XI & XIV, XII, XIII and XIII-2 as well - missing from my FF-résumé.
Which, thinking about it, makes the number of finished ones less than the missing entries, huh? Well, that actually makes me feel better about it, tbh, since I've felt kinda like I wasted my time with some of them (basically VII, sorry for all of those that love it).


Still - and I am getting a bit sentimental here - I want to say a word or two about two things that thestage brought up:
thestage wrote:
was Final Fantasy X Bioshock Infinite before Bioshock Infinite was Bioshock Infinite? it maybe was! as FFX marked more or less then end of the Golden Age of JRPG mainstream success and critical focus, will Bioshock Infinite do the same for the FPS? probably not! but maybe in smaller, more nuanced ways. maybe I will think about this.

I am interested in the legacy of Xenogears, though I'm not sure why. it forms a kind of trilogy with FFVIII and Chrono Cross--the height of square hubris and decadence, of their audiovisual prowess and their cult like authority over a given form, the what-have-we-here steps after the monstrous lurch of FFVII--but something sets it apart, I think. maybe I will think about this.

I was thinking about this (specifically about FFX and its impact) as well, and I'll have a topic dedicated to it and that point later on - but the thing that still puzzles me, is how square was "there" at the right time, the right place, to absolutely go bonkers and get away with it. Their 2000 output alone would have been an impressive lineup of a company during the whole PSX-era, and their business-plan must have been "do whatever you want", or else they would have been a bit more… uh, clever about the whole thing. Or conservative.

Their "cult like authority" (wonderful and catchy phrase that nails the whole thing) still can be felt today, and it's a thing that quite frankly baffles me. From what I've seen of FF13 and 13-2, they are still unbelieveable good at doing those FMVs (or whatever they're called nowadays) and the FF-name seems to sell games (even if gamers should know better by now). Even if they dropped the ball in terms of releases and games in development (if it wasn't for Eidos-deal, their last three "big" games would have been: FF14, FF13-2 and FF13?), they're still around and seem(?) to continue putting out the odd titles that somehow end up over here, like Nier, Drakengard, FF-Fighting games and the likes of them. And that's just the tip of the iceberg … games like Code Age Commanders or Nanashi no game never made it over here, and I do not even want to start to think about what-could-have-been/what-you-still-haven't-seen …
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:54 pm        Reply with quote

FF5 is pretty fun if you like Job Systems. play the GBA version so you can have it on the go + with a better script.

i was playing FF6 a week or so ago. good game!! i really like how pacey it is, at least in the first half (i've never gotten to the World of Ruin, i must confess).

i intend to finish it eventually, though at the moment i'm picking at my Dragon Quest 8 playthrough from like, last year.
you know, if Squeenix re-released DQ8 with non-random encounters and changed nothing else, it would probably be the best RPG for the PS2.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:14 pm        Reply with quote

FF5 is pretty much the best of the series I think. Lots of flexibility and room for actually interesting and varied challenge play, with the story being light enough that it doesn't get in the way while still being entertaining.

Xenogears is one of those games that I liked when it came out but probably couldn't get through it now. I actually still have the game itself around here somewhere, maybe I should suffer through it again for old time's sake...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:15 pm        Reply with quote

Going to watch this Rad Racer longplay while playing DQV on my DS


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:15 pm        Reply with quote

That is a pretty Rad Racer, if I may say so.




Soo~oo, if someone can tell me where I can upload a PSD-file, you can also make pretty stuff during this week.
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Uhh, on your free web space allotted by your ISP?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:17 am        Reply with quote

thestage wrote:
I am interested in the legacy of Xenogears, though I'm not sure why. it forms a kind of trilogy with FFVIII and Chrono Cross--the height of square hubris and decadence, of their audiovisual prowess and their cult like authority over a given form, the what-have-we-here steps after the monstrous lurch of FFVII--but something sets it apart, I think. maybe I will think about this.


The first thing that comes to mind is the ability to rotate the camera and jump. Those aspects set Xenogears apart. Perhaps a more shallow thing to note, but yeah. I first played the game nearly 15 years after it launched, so i'm not sure if those features were like mind blowing at the time. Those features don't feel very well in this age.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:31 am        Reply with quote

Gironika wrote:
Nanashi no game


Yo dawg check the iOS store ::sunglasses::
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:20 pm        Reply with quote

dementia wrote:
Ymer wrote:
Someone give me a Squeenix game, ANY game, I can play on my PSP and I shall make it my task.


Through official means or otherwise?
If the former, try Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions. If the latter, try Final Fantasy V (GBA ver. since SNES emulation on PSP is butt).


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:24 am        Reply with quote

Gironika wrote:
Soo~oo, if someone can tell me where I can upload a PSD-file, you can also make pretty stuff during this week.

Why not dropbox?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:51 pm        Reply with quote

have no webspace from my isp, forgot about sharehosters. Too easy! Will update tonight, suddenly got a bit busy, the first few days …
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:37 pm        Reply with quote

Sooo, have some two hours to spend? Why not watch some people talking about FF6/14 … and talking they do a lot. I skipped, tbh, and … uh, see for yourself!



In other news, round-up of the last few SQEX-W-days:

  • talked with a colleague at work about some FFs and his experience with XII. Interestingly, he said that XII "feels" like an FF and reminded him of some previous FFs (interestingly though, he didn't like 9 and 8) … will be interesting to follow up on how he likes XII, since he's currently only two hours in.
  • I will (maybe) get FF3 (DS) next week from said colleague. That'd be one off my list, hm!
  • I listened to the Code Age Commanders soundtrack and wondered (once again) what-could-have-been and why, in the age of digital re-releases, it still-hasn't-been. They did shop around subbed cutscenes of that back in … 2005? already. Still, it probably wouldn't sell as a digital dl-only title. One of the few games that I wanted to play but pretty much never will due to language barrier. The soundtrack, however, is wonderful. Tanioka at her best!
  • read a bit about the FFX HD-re-release and listened to some of the bgm-tracks … and I started to wonder about this game. What is it that makes me come back to it every so often? Mind you, I haven't played it for four years (or so?) but somehow it never fades away … in comparison to games I really liked or had a great time with, X takes up more space than it should … and last time I played it, I got killed brutallllllly on a SQEX-week-themed run. Maybe will follow up with a post!
  • I tried to mingle with someone (re: TWEWY) via WiFi, but didn't even encounter an alien, jeez …
  • took a trip around faux Hong Kong in Sleeping Dogs, took some pictures and thought about a number of things (re: upcoming GTA5-release ←→ SDogs). Will post soon!
  • I realized that I promised to do some writeup-stuff for Chrono Cross, but seem not to followed through. Of course, I had to listen to the soundtrack as well, and things got a bit sentimental, me questioning things and thinking about CC again … will follow up with a post, this time for real. Yapp.
  • I wondered whether SQEX will have the balls to go as crazy as they did back in their PSX-heyday again. Thought about this for a while, but with the recent shakeup of management/announcements a la "will investigate each business division" it slowly began to dawn on me that the recent fiscal report pretty much spells trouble for Drakengard III and other niche titles, and pretty much all the odd stuff that made SQEX the company it is today. Yes, we'll get Brave Default Fairies, but something like Drakengard? Nier? Code Age? The FF7(AC)-PS2-game featuring Vincent? I can't even muster up enough fandom to somehow see light at the end of the tunnel. Four valiant youths are all emo w/out crystals showering them with light, indeed …
  • kinda weird that Enix survived the merger (see sqex-wiki-page for info). It'd be interesting to see where the core-staff of their hayday went …
  • And who'd have imagined that things would turn out like they did … almost ten years later (remember that SQEX was created on april 1st 2003?)
  • and last but not least, didn't get two friends of mine to play EINHANDER yesterday, such a shame ~~~~ still, we had a good talk about the FF-movie and The Bouncer™.


Will have a workshop tomorrow and won't be back till friday, so I wish you a happy SQEX-W6 finish bevor the after-show-party commences from friday onwards.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:46 pm        Reply with quote

i think i could only play FF3 on an emulator. good game but the lack of savepoints is a real buzzkill. this is particularly true of the ridiculous final dungeon, which is a giant tower full of tough bosses, surrounded by ANOTHER dungeon which is a giant maze (which is also the entrance to a THIRD dungeon where you can unlock the super-secret bonus classes). i quit the game and never picked it up again after dying to the final boss and having to redo the whole thing... a few times...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:50 pm        Reply with quote

you can save inbetween the outer and inner dungeons.

though yeah it's still nuts and probably the most grueling end of any FF.

(and i did it, badge of worthless pride.)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:57 am        Reply with quote

I was pretty excited to finally hear (from Tetsuya Nomura) confirmation that Final Fantasy Versus XIII is not at all canceled and will surface soon, for some sort of update.
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end of the world wrote:
Shibuya: I think it was either Sakaguchi or Tanaka. "I want to put in an image of crossing the bridge", they said, but because there wasn't sufficient memory for the graphics to use, I remember a lot of worrying over whether there was any way to fill the screen with a single image. So since we needed to save a ton of a capacity, the top is a solid color, and the same layer is recycled to represent the hills and sea.

4gamer: What do you mean, recycled?

Shibuya: First of all, drawing a single part and lining it up. Then, to give it the needed accent, just turn it upside down. (laughs) And then from our perspective it's pitch black, and only the hill and the standing characters are left to draw. (I don't really know enough about Famicom graphics to understand this explanation.)

Let me clarify this:



So, we all understand that NES backgrounds are made out of 8x8 tiles, right? Also, you must know that these tiles can change colors - a part of the image colored green can be colored blue in a different tile. Finally, that you can "flip", that is, make the graphics of a tile upside down.

What he means is that the horizon line, with the castle, and the hill, they actually reuse a lot of identical tiles. They are just flipped, the parts that once belonged to the "sky" are painted black, and the parts that belonged to the river are painted "sky". So the final tile looks nothing like the original one, and they used this technique to build the hill. In the end, other than the characters, there are at best 6 or 7 "landscape" tiles in the image, instead of the 20-ish it would need to draw a full horizon, and they manage that with as little obvious repetition as possible. Great craftmanship at work.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:33 am        Reply with quote

My experiences exactly:
misadventurous wrote:
i think i could only play FF3 on an emulator. good game but the lack of savepoints is a real buzzkill. this is particularly true of the ridiculous final dungeon, which is a giant tower full of tough bosses, surrounded by ANOTHER dungeon which is a giant maze (which is also the entrance to a THIRD dungeon where you can unlock the super-secret bonus classes). i quit the game and never picked it up again after dying to the final boss and having to redo the whole thing... a few times...


I just picked up my game of $ Heroes of Light again. Fun game. I don't really have much to say about it. I'm looking forward to one day assembling the whole party and actually getting to play around with the class system, but that always seems a far way off.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:51 pm        Reply with quote

modern squeenix is what gave us what i would call the first legitimately attractive videogame character with lightning so hat's off to them

seriously, girl is fine
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:23 am        Reply with quote

FF13's cast is one of the most sexless casts I have ever seen in a videogame and helps to further the hypothesis that no one in the game is actually a human being
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:44 pm        Reply with quote

Thanks, that is some awesome SQEX-trivia there.
I spent some time upscaling (and searching) for traces of that awesome tile-job, but they did an ace job there … I want to believe that's the kind of dedication that made square become as big as they were back in 2000...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:34 pm        Reply with quote

just dropping by to update that I have not forgotten what I wanted to talk about, but goddamn is Sleeping Dogs fun. And it's not even that good!
I just cannot put my finger on why I am enjoying this as much as I do, but it kinda has a vibe that can only be compared to "Vice City" back in 200…3? (end of 2002, 10+ years ago … woah!).

I mean, just look at that (dork a.k.a me):

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