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BotageL pretty anime princess

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: *fidget*
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:16 pm |
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| RobotRocker wrote: |
| Mirror's edge 2 MS exclusive was wrong |
He said it would appear in the conference, not that it would be exclusive. That was wrong, but the game showed up at EA's event later that day, so it probably got bumped.
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| Prince Of Persia Exclusive was wrong |
Also never said it was exclusive.
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| PSN staying free was wrong |
He said he wasn't sure about this one, and it's pretty clear his sources are closer to MS.
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| MS Buying off mentions of games on other consoles was completely wrong |
Can't be proven either way. _________________
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boojiboy7 narcissistic irony-laden twat

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: take me on a blatant doom trip.
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:55 pm |
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| RobotRocker wrote: |
| Why can't Samsung wipe them from the face of the earth already? |
Because Sony has worked hard to become more than just consumer electronics, so (in Wu Tang financial terms) "they diversified their portfolio, mothafucka." So yeah, records, movies, TV, all sorts of shit. Now, granted, they function together terribly, but it is part of what keeps the company as a whole kicking. They are a giant mess though MS is a mess, too, just in a different way. |
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Winona Ghost Ryder lives in a monochromatic world

Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:00 pm |
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| Sony's big money maker is selling insurance in Japan of all things. |
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boojiboy7 narcissistic irony-laden twat

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: take me on a blatant doom trip.
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:03 pm |
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| Winona Ghost Ryder wrote: |
| Sony's big money maker is selling insurance in Japan of all things. |
I didn't know this, but it 100% doesn't surprise me at all if it is true. |
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CONSUME_PRODUCTS

Joined: 29 Jan 2012
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:47 pm |
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you should prob do some reading re: samsung
(massively corrupt, p much the s.k mafia) |
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RobotRocker C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!

Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Location: Death Egg Zone
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:12 pm |
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Well done select button. You just can't let a grudge go even a month afterwards and you decide to get personal. I hope you're happy.
Hi NeoGAF. I don't know what select button got butthurt enough to try pull dirt because of Something I said but I bet it's hilarious that you went to all that effort to pull something out of another website without context or any respect. (PS. Take a fucking joke for once)
I'd throw in a goatman but fuck it. I can't even be bothered on that. _________________

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Winona Ghost Ryder lives in a monochromatic world

Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:45 pm |
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| You clearly do care about these giant faceless corporations and fanboys and THE CONSOLE WARS from your post history the past couple months. Of course you'll deny it with a frantic and hyperbolic response. Just calm down or post at Gamefaqs/Neogaf. |
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CubaLibre the road lawyer

Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Location: Balmer
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:39 pm |
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Yeah you should do that thing I said and relax man caring about the public image of gigantic faceless corporations is liable to give you a coronary. _________________ Let's Play, starring me. |
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Toptube Anti-cabbage Party Candidate
Joined: 23 Apr 2007
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:58 pm |
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| RobotRocker wrote: |
| Hell, I suggested "I'd love to subscribe to PS Plus but there's not a lot of incentive for a new member. Wouldn't it be nice if new members could get five past titles from Sony's first party to help their instant game collection" and got met with |
Yeah, wouldn't it be nice? more stuff is always nice. But I'm pretty sure playstation plus is a big incentive for people that play a lot of games.
Here are all of the free games from the first year of "instant game collection"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblog/9154890398/
and as long as you've downloaded those games, you can "keep' them for free, as long as you are a PS+ member. Even after they are no longer free.
That's pretty amazing and is huge incentive. Again, this is for people that play a lot of games and aren't super specifically picky. But even still, a person could wait until some games where offered that they were interested in and make that their starting month.
This is what you get access to right now, if you are a brand new member:
http://us.playstation.com/psn/playstation-plus/
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notbov

Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:36 pm |
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this thread is getting silly
the internet is giving MS grief because they came up with stupid shit, then because MS realized they wanted to make money and stopped doing all the stuff they realized they couldn't get away with. Sony had its turn as the whipping post (the hubris of Ken Kutaragi circa PS3 reveal/launch is still several leagues worse than what MS pulled round/during E3).
I'm glad that they see that some of the shit they were gonna pull was dumb and that they're going past expectations with stuff like the devkit capability because blah blah blah competition etc., especially with Nintendo deciding they want to be a non-entity in the console race atm. the less bullshit tacked onto the system, the more games will come, and a big library is a healthy library (I hope).
still keeping that PS4 pre-order though, sometimes you gotta smack a dog on the nose til he understands _________________
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RobotRocker C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!

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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:26 pm |
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mauve

Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:27 pm |
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As a developer I'd very much like to see more technical information. But details later, I guess...
It's really hard for me to trust their messaging as of late, especially when it's a massive turnaround from both previous practices and overall mentality. _________________ twit |
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Lick Meth

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: A constant state of flux
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:33 pm |
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| The hardware is doing bad enough that major investors want a split. Which I hope they get because really, fuck Sony. They spat in gamers faces for years and now because they throw some nerd on stage and yell "No used games" they expect forgiveness. I really don't fucking care about PS4 and I'm sick of being told "BUT PS4". Fuck Sony. Cunts. |
Christ, you've been a complete embarrassment about all of this, for the endless years since Sony made shit with the start of the PS3. I'm not going that SB has been above console favouritism, but you absolutely cannot deny the continued fuckups that MS have made over this machine, instead of throwing total wobblers over rumours of the always-on DRM (that was a thing! And you said fucking nothing), or toxic indie relations/rules (which you're only talking about now because MS have again done an about face), and you've given no impression over the machine's confusing dedication to television of all things. The minute they say you don't need Xbox Live to get Netflix, you'll be screaming from the hills about how great they are and using overly vulgar language to illustrate your ingrained hatred of a company who also make televisions, yet didn't use a console reveal to tell everyone how great it is to watch interactive fantasy eggball on.
I have no idea what to say about the conflict in calling Sony "cunts" (charming) combined with "don't care about the PS4". Why are Sony the bad people? What is it that MS did that was so much nicer in comparison, when we look at their less than altruistic practices in the PC hemisphere or anti-competitive efforts that have lasted more than 20 years? Would MS be better ploughing through with anti-consumer practices?
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Ronnoc

Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:29 am |
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| RobotRocker wrote: |
| CubaLibre wrote: |
| Yeah you should do that thing I said and relax man caring about the public image of gigantic faceless corporations is liable to give you a coronary. |
Go fuck yourself. Seriously. Go Fuck yourself. |
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another god
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:31 am |
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| Toptube wrote: |
| and as long as you've downloaded those games, you can "keep' them for free, as long as you are a PS+ member. Even after they are no longer free. |
Actually, you don't even have to download them. You just have to add them to your account. At that point PSN will automatically start a download, but you can cancel it, and still have it to download at any later time you still have your PS+ account active.
A technicality, but, pretty much Super SEGA Channel Turbo for modern consoles. _________________ interdimensional |
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Talbain

Joined: 14 Jan 2007
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:51 am |
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| CONSUME_PRODUCTS wrote: |
you should prob do some reading re: samsung
(massively corrupt, p much the s.k mafia) |
Yeah, they have a virtual monopoly on the electronics industry in S.K. It's pretty shitty for small businesses. S.K. in general probably needs some aggressive anti-trust legislation, though I don't really expect that to happen. _________________
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Toptube Anti-cabbage Party Candidate
Joined: 23 Apr 2007
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:30 am |
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| another god wrote: |
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| and as long as you've downloaded those games, you can "keep' them for free, as long as you are a PS+ member. Even after they are no longer free. |
Actually, you don't even have to download them. You just have to add them to your account. At that point PSN will automatically start a download, but you can cancel it, and still have it to download at any later time you still have your PS+ account active.
A technicality, but, pretty much Super SEGA Channel Turbo for modern consoles. |
and I actually knew that, but at the time I guess I was too lazy to type the extra stuff. But since I was on defense, I guess I should have given the extra detail!
Not to mention, the other benefits like major discounts on other games, online save storage, etc.
*although, I'd like to see online save storage be a free feature for everyone. I mean, it's absolutely stupid that we otherwise have no transportability for our game saves. |
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Ymer

Joined: 05 Oct 2009 Location: PAL region
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:10 pm |
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| *although, I'd like to see online save storage be a free feature for everyone. I mean, it's absolutely stupid that we otherwise have no transportability for our game saves. |
wait, really? none at all? Does the 360 allow this? |
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BotageL pretty anime princess

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: *fidget*
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:35 pm |
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yo you'll excuse me if "we promise we'll give you full access eventually but we're still not talking details until gamescom" isn't exactly a statement i can take at face value. _________________
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boojiboy7 narcissistic irony-laden twat

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: take me on a blatant doom trip.
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:12 pm |
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| Ymer wrote: |
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| *although, I'd like to see online save storage be a free feature for everyone. I mean, it's absolutely stupid that we otherwise have no transportability for our game saves. |
wait, really? none at all? Does the 360 allow this? |
the 360 just lets you use a USB flash card as memory, but it has to be formated for the system. also there were 360 memory cards.
and yeah, neither system gives cloud saving away for free. and the only way to transfer a lot of ps3 saves is backup the hard drive in the original system, which only works if you remember to do it BEFORE the system dies. Yeah...got fucked by that. If you try to swap the hard drive toa new system, it will format it. |
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Gironika

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Dragon Range
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:31 pm |
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And we all know how awesome clouds function when you have no internet access, yes.
But still, we can always buy another 360 for our trip in our submarine, right?
(guess what, I am no friend of cloud-storage! But then I'm from a country that asks the NSA for 2nd hand data after they gave them free access, so …… kind of a theme going on here, yup. Still, I don't see what was so excellent about doing away with memory card+game you could take with you when visiting a friend. Never needed amazing online-friend systems for that.) _________________
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boojiboy7 narcissistic irony-laden twat

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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:46 pm |
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| Yeah, I actually own a 360 memory card from before they opened the USB compatability. I am still pissed at my ps3 for eating all of my saves. |
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Toptube Anti-cabbage Party Candidate
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:14 pm |
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| I think the one benefit of PS3's super encrypted/DRM'd game saves is that the saves aren't super hackable like they are on 360. |
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Ronnoc

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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:22 pm |
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| Yeah, I actually own a 360 memory card from before they opened the USB compatability. I am still pissed at my ps3 for eating all of my saves. |
I tried to sell that when I sold off my xblobs, but it has a resale value of less than a penny :( |
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boojiboy7 narcissistic irony-laden twat

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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:27 pm |
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| Yeah, gonna be stuck with that little silly thing forever, which is fine. it just lives in my xbox. |
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Felix unofficial repository
Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: vancouver
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:20 pm |
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| Ronnoc wrote: |
| boojiboy7 wrote: |
| Yeah, I actually own a 360 memory card from before they opened the USB compatability. I am still pissed at my ps3 for eating all of my saves. |
I tried to sell that when I sold off my xblobs, but it has a resale value of less than a penny :( |
it seemed fairly obvious that they were only putting proprietary memory card slots on the console at that point (2005?) to make money. I'm glad they finally went ahead and made them functionally useless, but it also just fucks early adopters that little bit. |
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boojiboy7 narcissistic irony-laden twat

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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:43 pm |
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| eh, i think mine cost me all of 20 bucks, so i don't feel particularly fucked, or no more fucked than every other memory card i ever bought. |
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Persona mobile

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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:44 pm |
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God that reminds me: the reason why developing on Xbox sucks is because you have to support all those memory options even now and test for all sorts of dumb cases like if someone installs the entire game on to the card somehow and then pulls it out while it's loading. Urghhhhh. _________________
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boojiboy7 narcissistic irony-laden twat

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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:45 pm |
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| yeah that is some silly BS. |
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BenoitRen I bought RAM

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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:17 pm |
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In my experience these Xbox 360 memory cards still have decent resale value. _________________ Get Xenoblade Chronicles!
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| Whenever I read things like "id like to by a new car," I cringe inside, imagine some grunting ape who happened across a keyboard, and move on without thinking about the attempted message. |
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Ronnoc

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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:41 am |
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| boojiboy7 wrote: |
| eh, i think mine cost me all of 20 bucks, so i don't feel particularly fucked, or no more fucked than every other memory card i ever bought. |
Mine was $60 :o
I don't feel particularly upset, though. I used the bugger exclusively for over a year. |
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Jigsaw

Joined: 11 Sep 2008 Location: Eskilstuna, Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:49 am |
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| Well, for what it's worth they didn't actually remove the functionality. You can't buy new memory cards (nor would you really want to), but the ones you own still work as fine as they ever did. |
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tiburon

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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:57 pm |
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| Well, for what it's worth they didn't actually remove the functionality. You can't buy new memory cards (nor would you really want to), but the ones you own still work as fine as they ever did. |
Weird, I bought one on amazon like 2 months ago
(i had to buy it to get free shipping, so i actually saved money by buying it. but still) _________________ stream - steam - tweets
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notbov

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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:04 pm |
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I know this is dead and old and no new exciting Xbone news has happened besides the desperation Euro FIFA bundle, but I managed to see one of the these things in person today, sitting there, not doing anything
I am so very happy to report that the Xbone is, in fact, Xbox huge. it is almost exactly the same shape and size as the OG Xbox
now just cut the price and throw in a copy of Crimson Dragon and I'll jump in _________________
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Felix unofficial repository
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:18 pm |
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| I will try not to read into this that microsoft has abandoned any dubious cross-cultural aspirations they once had for hardware design and instead assume that they're just dgafing what with the whole x86 thing and throwing a standard mITX board in there just like my computer. |
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Toptube Anti-cabbage Party Candidate
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:52 pm |
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there's a Die shot floating around the internet, that is supposedly from the Xbone. It has a section with a large amount of transistors unaccounted for.
IF it actually is a real Die shot from the actual Xbone that is in production and due to ship: the size of this Die section suggests another graphics chip.
I'm not buying it, the speculation. But it's out there. |
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notbov

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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:12 pm |
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I've read so many theories as to what sort of secret sauce lies within the Xbone
I've also read that, of the launch titles, only Forza is native 1080p (Ryse is confirmed 1600x900 upscaled, KI has been noted as 720p in development, DR3 only just got locked 30 fps so no one knows what res it'll run and there's rumors that BF4 is going to be 720p/60fps), which sort of flies counter to the presence of untapped power waiting to be unleashed _________________
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| notbov wrote: |
I've read so many theories as to what sort of secret sauce lies within the Xbone
I've also read that, of the launch titles, only Forza is native 1080p (Ryse is confirmed 1600x900 upscaled, KI has been noted as 720p in development, DR3 only just got locked 30 fps so no one knows what res it'll run and there's rumors that BF4 is going to be 720p/60fps), which sort of flies counter to the presence of untapped power waiting to be unleashed |
BF4 is not a rumor. those specs were officially confirmed.
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I think the physical size of the Xbone is MS just making damn certain they don't have to again put out a billion dollars on damage control. See: it should have good cooling and ventilation. |
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BenoitRen I bought RAM

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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:33 am |
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All of that hardware power and the games are still not Full HD? _________________ Get Xenoblade Chronicles!
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| Whenever I read things like "id like to by a new car," I cringe inside, imagine some grunting ape who happened across a keyboard, and move on without thinking about the attempted message. |
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notbov

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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:28 pm |
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1080p (Full HD is a terrible term and I hope it dies) is totally down to developer desire, seeing as many upcoming Wii U titles are going to be 1080p60. there's also the whole Microsoft engineers purposely not targeting the highest specs (which, if what has been said about Kinect 2.0's cost is true, is to keep the price down). the PS4 is going to have more titles at 1080p at launch, but that really doesn't mean much, since a lot of the lower-res titles on either platform are going to be multiplats/ports, wherein the issue is the performance/IQ tightrope walk.
oh, and it's not that much power, the new consoles are still pretty meh in comparison to the last couple generations of GPUs in the PC space
I've been sitting at the 1080p threshold for the past 5-6 years on PC. it's not that big a deal. higher framerates are sexier. _________________
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BenoitRen I bought RAM

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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:33 pm |
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How are they going to push QuadHD when they can't even make it to 1080p without effort? They're already pushing TVs that have 2160 lines and more. It's crazy. _________________ Get Xenoblade Chronicles!
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| Whenever I read things like "id like to by a new car," I cringe inside, imagine some grunting ape who happened across a keyboard, and move on without thinking about the attempted message. |
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