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| oh hey this thread is the same thread everywhere. |
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 6:26 pm |
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| hey at least we got to see it. YOUR MOVE SONY or something. |
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 6:28 pm |
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| Ronk wrote: |
sony's got a teaser video of what the console looks like
OH MY GOD WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE (probably a black box) |
no dude spoiler tag that shit GOD |
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 6:36 pm |
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| Talbain wrote: |
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| hey at least we got to see it. YOUR MOVE SONY or something. |
I didn't see it. Was it boring? I bet it was boring. |
so yeah, a little boring, but not terrible looking. |
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 6:41 pm |
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personally, I just glad that someone is finally releasing a console big enough that I can stack my old OG Xbox on
(so what do we call the original Xbox now that the moniker of Xbox One is taken) |
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 6:51 pm |
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| gaming is the only hobby i know of where enthusiasts pay attention to stock prices during announcements. |
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:01 pm |
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| oh yeah, so i guess consumer electronics as a whole, then. because man, my dad runs a hobby shop and even he can't tell you what anybody's stocks are doing there. |
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:04 pm |
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| Take It Sleazy wrote: |
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| gaming is the only hobby i know of where enthusiasts pay attention to stock prices during announcements. |
it's not a hobby it's a lifestyle. dive in and take a bite of the future |
the future has maximal crunch, minimal mom-taking-away-my-juiceboxes. |
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| Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:25 am |
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| firenze wrote: |
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| oh yeah, so i guess consumer electronics as a whole, then. because man, my dad runs a hobby shop and even he can't tell you what anybody's stocks are doing there. |
I assume the companies that make the stuff sold in your dad's hobby shop aren't publicly traded global mega-companies with multi-billion dollar yearly revenue that have the power to affect global economies. |
Fair enough, though I am not sure why consumer electronics fans care so much about the business of "publicly traded global mega-companies with multi-billion dollar yearly revenue that have the power to affect global economies" that clearly give no fucks about them. Oh no, MS stock is down...this affects me...how exactly?
and yes the companies are bigger. this still doesn't change that people care about toy companies a bit too much, especially given how transparent they all are at not caring about the same people.
Edit: I mean i get caring about things and all, but it just weirds me out sometimes. |
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| Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:17 am |
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| X-Box: "This also-ran is a box that plays games. Ascribe whatever you want to this variable. We don't know what we are yet." |
You know the original Xbox was named as such because of its use of Direct X, right? Man the original was such a neat system. Their were so many weird things about it, like how it was basically a dreamcast 2, because MS hired a bunch of Sega of America people, who then got Sega of Japan on board in developing for it, even though it had like no following in Japan. Also From Software did a bunch of weird shit for it, which why it amazes me there isn't more love for the big giant hunk of American silly console design. And shit like Breakdown happening.
Man I really need to talk Rudie into recording the XBox Hinge Problems episode at some point.
But yeah, it's really obvious they are just treating "XBox" like a brand, which oddly might be the smartest thing they've done with this. |
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| Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 3:57 pm |
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| I wonder if MS was even selling *us* the console, and not some demographic we haven't considered. |
That's the thing. They aren't selling it to us (being SB, a relatively small percentage of their market). They are selling it to the people who have made Call of Duty the highest selling videogame franchise of all time, which is a huge market. If they get or don't get us doesn't really matter to them or their investors. |
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| Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 5:04 pm |
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| internisus wrote: |
| No other medium has this problem. If you want to read or listen to or watch something that you just found out about but it was made thirty years ago, that's fine because you access the media in the same way you access the same kind of media that was just published yesterday. |
Not necessarily. Lots of movies/music/books have been lost to the passage of time. What makes games unique is the accelerated rate at which this occurs. |
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| Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 5:27 pm |
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| firenze wrote: |
| That's completely true, but is there really even much of a unique selling point to the CoD/Madden crowd? Those games are also going to be on PS4 with no Xbox live cost and presumably more consumer-friendly online requirements and used game policies. Even bro gamers care about those things. |
According to the not-really-ever reliable VGCharts, Black Ops 2 sold 2 million more copies globally on the 360 than on the ps3, so the Live thing isn't really a problem (though there's also the timed-exclusivity thing and such). I also think you overestimate the amount the average person pays attention to these things.
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| Is that group especially into giving voice commands to their consoles? My impression is that they aren't, and that they don't really care about novelty Kinect stuff. Are they really excited about having more TV integration? Again, my impression is that they're fine hitting the input button on their TV remote when they want to watch TV. |
No, they don't care, but they don't see them as a negative either. The vocal minority who are pitching a shitfit over this stuff are missing that john q. gamer really genuinely, in the end, cares about "will it play my games?" + "how much does it cost?" + "what are my friends using?" and that is it.
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| Maybe timed exclusive CoD DLC and Halo games really ARE the key to capturing those types of people. |
Ah, here you maybe get at it a bit more. It's all just the games that matter. That's really it. And so many (including a lot of people in this thread) associate Call of Duty with Xbox, so yeah, those people that like CoD are gonna go for the next one no matter what. And MS knows this, hence CoD getting big placement in their presser.
I'm not saying these complaints aren't legitimate. A lot of them are. Just that they don't matter to MS in the slightest. MS doesn't really need unique and new, because looking at how their sales have been (software-wise, as hardware this gen has stagnated, hence the desire for a new gen), what they've been doing is working just fine (for them, not maybe for us, but oh well?).
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| and why don't they have their shit straight for a console unveiling? yeah, the market may be dudebros, but they aren't the early adopters; the early adopters are the people who understand the kind of shit MS (or aren't because they can't make up their minds) is trying to pull |
The whole dudebro thing is just such a silly construct, but if you believe it is real, you have to accept that those people and their spending power are way more important to the people who make games than you. Dudebro is a construct made up for "people with more mainstream tastes than mine", but the problem is, those people spend a lot more money on games than the rest of us combined, so, uh, fuck...
The early adopters don't even really matter any more. The Wii had the most early adopters last gen, and how did that turn out, from the game players perspective? Sony had the worst early adoption status with the ps3, and yet shit ended up just fine for them.
This idea that MS/Sony/Nintendo care about anything but the way to get the most $$$ is just wrong. MS right now is placing their bets on the average dude, and hoping to expand a little outward from there. They are confident enough in said average dude audience that they led most of their stuff by appealing outside of that. Now, if this bet is wrong, so be it (and it could well be. it did backfire some on Sony in the early days of the ps3), but I don't really care all that much. |
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| Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 5:59 pm |
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| I think those two statements are at odds with each other. 360 became more popular for multi-platform CoD and Madden games because the 360 got entrenched early and the more casual players just went with the popular system. In addition to the system being available a year earlier than PS3, Sony compounded things by bungling the PS3 launch. The enthusiast/early adopter communities definitely played a role in building 360 up as the popular system, due in no large part to their response to Sony's arrogance. |
I don't see why you think they are at odds at all. Yes, the 360 still has the bigger install base with mainstream/casual/dudebros/whatevertermweareusingforThem, but the PS3 did decently even without that. Sure, did the early adopters possibly push the 360 over the top? yeah, fine. Did that kill or even slow down Sony? Sure as shit doesn't seem like it.
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So now we have MS playing the arrogant company that doesn't care about the "real fans", and some actual tangible benefits that can work against MS from a marketing perspective:
- Live costs money to play online or access stuff like Netflix, PSN doesn't
- If you do want to pay money for a subscription, Sony gives you lots of free games
- You have to pay full price for used games on 360 (and will probably hurt the ability to resell your games too, because why would the next buyer get a used game when they can just get a new one or download it for the same price?)
- Internet connection requirement. Which I don't personally think is nearly as big a deal as people are making it (if you're only using your system to play CoD multiplayer you're already online, right?), but it seems to resonate with people. |
This all seems to resonate most with the same vocal internet people who are decrying the dudebro rise to dominance or whatever. So what I am saying is that I don't really see this being all that big a problem. The Live situation has been that way since forever, and it didn't slow down the 360 train at all. Sure, Sony gives you free games, and that is great and fine, but it obviously isn't hurting MS's bottom line, so why should they stop with Live? There's still things Live does pretty damn well (voice chat is still spotty in some major PS3 releases, including the latest Battlefield, I heard). Not well enough that I would pay for it if I didn't have something new to play on it, but I can get why frequent online gamers would.
You are assuming a lot about the used game fee, given that MS has bungled their communicaitons on it so much so far. If it is like you say right now though, I am not gonna be surprised to see that changed in a bit because yeah, it's not great. Personally I don't really care, as I don't buy used games that often, and rarely sell my own unless I just plain don't want them any more.
Then again, right now, I have no plans for either a ps4 or a One, so eh. I mean, i might be swayed at some point, but this is so early that the intensity of people's caring seems strange to me. |
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| Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:29 pm |
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| yep, basically. |
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| Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:48 pm |
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| I don't see why you think they are at odds at all. Yes, the 360 still has the bigger install base with mainstream/casual/dudebros/whatevertermweareusingforThem, but the PS3 did decently even without that. Sure, did the early adopters possibly push the 360 over the top? yeah, fine. Did that kill or even slow down Sony? Sure as shit doesn't seem like it. |
But... you just cited sales numbers showing that the last CoD sold 2 million more copies on 360. You really don't think that if Sony had a better market position earlier, they probably could have sold to more CoD buying dudebros who decided on the 360 because it was the more popular system at the time they bought it? |
If you look, sony's worldwide ps3 sales ended up being pretty close to even with the 360. the 360, however, got the CoD crowd, which is why i brought that sales number up to begin with.
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| Have you ever known any major company to say, "yeah our sales were fine, we're happy as-is"? HELL NO. They (and their shareholders) always want more more more more. Don't you think Sony would rather have massively outsold Microsoft over the life of the last generation instead of gradually improving to the point where they ended up relatively even? |
well of course they would ahve loved to, but clearly they didn't get screwed by their sales, so they are fine. I don't see why I should care about them getting huge profits really.
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| The Live situation most certainly has NOT been that way since forever. |
Um literally the only thing that has changed in the negative since Live started was the 10 dollar per year price increase, which is easy to get around just buy buying live from Amazon instead of MS. Otherwise, they've just added shit to it, most of which is either useless or free on other systems, while not losing some of the unique functions (group chat, etc) that they have had all along. So yeah, Live is pretty much the same as it ever was.
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| When it came time to get a new vehicle in 2012, she became a straight up expert on the features, pricing, and reviews of every vehicle in the category. She's not a car enthusiast. She's also not that unique in her buying/research process. |
Do you know any gamers outside of sb? Because seriously, the Wii outsold both the more powerful systems, so if people are doing this "becoming experts" thing like you hope, they are becoming really shitty experts. |
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:54 am |
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| So I don't think industry history supports the mass market simply supporting the same company/brand for the next generation. No guarantee that CoD/Madden guy will just buy the new Xbox over a PS4. |
I'm just quoting this because I think we agree far more than we disagree. All my original point was is that the 360 sees going with the CoD crowd as its key to success. Whether or not this is the case has yet to be seen, but my only point is that all the negatives people are bringing up here about the new xbox aren't really negatives to that crowd. They aren't positives either, though.
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| The Live situation most certainly has NOT been that way since forever. |
Um literally the only thing that has changed in the negative since Live started was the 10 dollar per year price increase, which is easy to get around just buy buying live from Amazon instead of MS. Otherwise, they've just added shit to it, most of which is either useless or free on other systems, while not losing some of the unique functions (group chat, etc) that they have had all along. So yeah, Live is pretty much the same as it ever was. |
It's not that Live got any worse, it's that the competition caught up. Live was literally all alone when 360 launched and clearly better than Sony's efforts in the early days of the PS3. Maybe even better enough to justify paying for it over the free alternative. But Sony steadily improved to the point where for most people it's kind of a wash now, and it costs no money compared to Live costing money. |
Yes, which was my point exactly. Live hasn't changed at all, and is apparently still making money for MS, so why change it again?
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| Do you know any gamers outside of sb? Because seriously, the Wii outsold both the more powerful systems, so if people are doing this "becoming experts" thing like you hope, they are becoming really shitty experts. |
You forget that not everyone has the same gaming 'needs'. Lots of casual gamers were happy with the Wii and would not have been happy with one of the other two.
Alternatively: stop the Wii hatin'. |
I'm with BenRen on this. Wii had very different aspects that appealed to the people who bought it. Casual/party games like Wii Sports, the first serious attempt at a primarily motion controlled system, Wii Fit, Nintendo first party software, getting caught up in the "everyone is buying one" fad. Whether Wii was more powerful or not is completely irrelevant, it had lots of unique selling points that were more compelling to a lot of buyers than raw system power. |
Again, you are basically agreeing with me and framing it like we aren't. You argued that console purchasers "do their research" and "become experts", which the wii says that if they do, the vast majority of buyers prefer casual games and motion controls and such. Which is why, magically, the MS presser was aimed at those people.
Also, jesus benren, would you get over the wii already. Yeah, it had a few good games, but yeah, mentioning that it was underpowered compared to the others (especially in a conversation about how consumers do research) is hardly "wii hatin'". We know which system you love in the console wars and guess what? It won...so congrats? I hope your identity is validated as such.
Oh god, why did I reply to a benren wii post?
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:56 am |
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| Akihabara game stores are going to be stocking nothing but Nintendo and Sony games this gen. The used game market in Akihabara is legendary. Gamers buy games, beat them in under a week, and they're on shelves in the used game shops for 500-1000 yen on launch weekend. |
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um, whoever this is, they don't get how used game sales work in japan really, as the price discount is nowhere near that sharp in that short a time, as far as i know. |
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 2:27 am |
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the thing still looks like the best future VCR though.
and yes, this should've been the Xbox Zero, for how many fucks MS gives. |
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:28 pm |
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| Do people really consider the machines physical appearance as a factor for purchase? |
i never got me to buy or not buy a system, but i do think about it when i look at them. and there have been some super ugly ones, so seeing one i actually kinda like is odd. |
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 2:22 pm |
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| though honestly, I don't see why everyone is making a big deal about it or even why MS having a system on tap is a coup over Sony not having an actual PS4 at their reveal. it feels like they're deluding themselves that it won't somehow be a fucking black box or that the One wouldn't be a black box |
honestly i just thought it was really funny that sony had a giant presser to announce a product that they never actually showed anyone at the presser. and now they put out a trailer for the unveiling. i would almost think it was some kind of performance art, but like the Konami E3 thing from a few years back, there's no way it actually is. at least nobody at the One announcement tried to invoke the occupy movement (the funniest thing at the PS4 one). though the One had the dog, so, eh, even split of hilarity. |
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 6:01 pm |
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I would bet probably not, WGR as that would mean encoding individual keys with each copy of a game, in addition to the user key codes.
Really this is just coming off like MS is catching up to Blizzard. |
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 8:30 pm |
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| Yes Benren, my attitude is the problem. |
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 8:36 pm |
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| It will be the inverse of the OG Xbox and the PS2, which is kinda funny. |
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| Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:40 am |
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I love that dq10 is on that list of WiiU exclisives, since it has been out on the wii in Japan for like 6 months at least.
Also, DX:HR is on every platform, and I am betting the "director's cut" (ha) is just all the DLC spliced into the game and some pad funtionality.
Honestly, only a few games on that list are even minorly appealing to me, so eh. |
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| Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:41 am |
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| My money's on a new Banjo game, given that I've seen rumblings from press sites with regards to it. |
man if it is nuts and bolts 2, that would be pretty great. the first one was pretty amazing in it's own way, if incredibly flawed.
it won't be nuts and bolts 2. |
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| Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:43 am |
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| Also, what happened to that add-on box that MS walk talking about like a month ago as a solution to the BC issue? Did that just get dropped? |
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| Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 2:36 pm |
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| fair, but i was just wondering why there was no mention of it here. |
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| Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:30 pm |
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| yeah it wouldn't really affect my non-opinion on the console right now, but it seems like an easy way to address the people yelling about BC stuff if it is actually real. |
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| Toups wrote: |
| when was the last time you've seen a retailer stock used PC games?? |
when was the last time you bought a pc game without any form of DRM on it (note: steam totally counts as DRM)? just because the PC community accepted these kinds of practices long ago doesn't make them any better. |
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I accept Steam's DRM because of the convenience I get for it.
Anytime I do a clean OS install or use another computer, all I have to do is download steam for all my games and (some) saves.
I don't personally see what benefit I'd be getting out of it on a console. |
and this is completely fair, and i get that. heck, i use steam no problem, but i'm just not really surprised to see MS noticing how steam has done, and seeking to emulate it on their console.
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| Steam is not a platform for games. the PC is the platform; Steam is a service/DRM. there are games that you cannot play without using Steam; there are games on Steam that you can get from other sources with varying degrees of DRM. |
do you genuinely think that, if the long-hoped-for steambox ever happens, this will last long? yes PCs will continue to exist as a separate platform, sure, but if MS succeeds at this, i can see Valve going WAITAMINUTEHERE and bam, there you go.
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| in comparison, the Xbone is hardware, OS, service and DRM all in one. there won't be any games that I can buy for it that won't fall under the currently outlined policies. if I game on the PC, I can choose to only support games and services with unrestrictive policies. if I game on the Xbone, I have to play ball by their rules. |
yep, this is the case, and i don't begrudge anyone not buying an Xbone due to this (or at least just waiting till the inevitable hacking occurs).
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| I take issue with this because they're still actively making a physical option available while simultaneously changing the paradigm by which physical media is treated on a console, to the benefit of publishers. it's one thing to actively assert control over the copyrighted material; it's another to claim complete ownership of a physical copy after it's in the hands of a consumer. |
you can buy boxed copies of steam games, so that paradigm was changed a long time ago. fuck, the very first steam game did that. and EULAs being what they are, the physical copy of the game hasn't mattered since forever. shitty business practices won out long ago. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:21 pm |
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| please, nobody get me wrong. i am disappointed to see MS doing this, and wondering if (more likely when) sony will do the same. I'm just saying Valve put the writing on the wall a decade ago, and MS finally read it. (the massive not-really-irony of this all being Valve's founders past as MS employees |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:38 pm |
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| it really won't be long before that happens to xbone games. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:52 pm |
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Well yeah, but cracked steam games often don't work for online multiplayer stuff too, which has the same effect.
But yeah, i wouldn't buy a console to wait for it to be hacked. That would be silly. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:44 pm |
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| Tulpa wrote: |
| boojiboy7 wrote: |
| Toups wrote: |
| when was the last time you've seen a retailer stock used PC games?? |
when was the last time you bought a pc game without any form of DRM on it (note: steam totally counts as DRM)? just because the PC community accepted these kinds of practices long ago doesn't make them any better. |
almost every single humble bundle included drm-free copies of the games in addition to steam keys. so uh. Last week. |
fair enough. but SB's favorite game Dark Souls has 2 forms of annoying DRM on them (one being MS, even). On the PC side, DRM like this is pretty much standard on non-indie games.
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| I think many of these arguments tend to overlook the fact that microsoft are a bunch of cocks |
this is an important difference. whatever problems one might have with valve, they have historically shown themselves to be much more community friendly and customer-oriented and I think they had just enough goodwill from gamers to make something like steam work. all microsoft really has is halo. |
were you just not on the internet when hl2 launched and people were shitting bricks over steam? |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:49 pm |
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| i feel weird arguing this because i really have no interest in buying an xbone, i just am weirded out by people having this reaction to this part of it. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:32 pm |
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| I really think people overestimate, due largely to the internet echo chamber, how much the average consumer cares about MS's DRM stuff. Not saying they should or shouldn't care, just that they don't. |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:10 pm |
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| Toups wrote: |
| to what extent will halo drown out such concerns? do people care about halo like they did ten years ago? |
halo: only sorta. Cod (yes it is one sony's system too, but the game has seena lot more activity on the 360 than the ps3): yeah. |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:26 pm |
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| Takashi wrote: |
| Are people so attached to their gamerscore that they won't consider the PS4? Or is it a matter of controller and established friend circles? |
probably more the later and just being what people know. |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:52 pm |
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| This Machine Kills Fascis wrote: |
| >Probably going to be the default home for querky Japanese games |
wait like the 360 was largely this generation? the no region lock thing is a big problem for a lot of the smaller japanese devs. |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:59 pm |
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| from what i have read, it has to do something with how they view the idea of getting publication deals in other countries. Basically, they make a lot more money if a US publisher or a Euro publisher picks up the rights to overseas publication that they do on people willing to import the game, so they like region locking to try to secure those rights. Whether or not this is correct? Who knows, but it seems to be how the smaller devs view it. The only reason Cave broke down on it is that it actually made their ability to argue for a US publisher much easier, as they tried to track imports and could say LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE PAID SO MUCH FOR THIS, PUBLISHERS? and then could get publishers. It's kinda backwards thinking, I guess, but oh well. |
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