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Broco

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Headquarters
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:27 pm |
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| 90% of the dialogue in the game is designed to explain your immediate ingame actions with some kind of pseudo-logical reason to do it in terms of impact on the game universe, leaving no space for any wider context. It's so desperate all the time to come up with a reason why quest-of-the-week is essential to the survival of Earth. |
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notbov

Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:53 pm |
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if the overall storyline of Destiny: The Franchise is that your zombie hero (remember that you are technically undead and your presence is represented by your Ghost when you die so deep, so much symbolism) is actually The Darkness because The Traveler is The Darkness and the Vex are actually The Light and you end up having to switch sides and save The Universe from The Traveler with the Vex, that would pretty much be the plot of the first Halo trilogy. I would like to think Bungie has a different idea, seeing as they've already introduced a neutral race (the Cabal are seemingly not affiliated with The Light or The Darkness), which would imply that there's some race somewhere that knows what The Traveler actually is that wouldn't want to kill humanity on sight, but, you know, the writing in the final game is so good as is
so help me god I will hurt people if they keep up with this "The BLANK" naming convention _________________
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Family Computer
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:11 pm |
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How about how you're supposed to be fighting this desperate struggle but all around you you see other guardians decimating other factions like crazy. _________________ 3DS Friendcode: 2337-3480-4823
PSN: play2forget
This summer, become Buried In Games. |
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notbov

Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:22 pm |
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well, if actual, full-bodied theme park MMOs still can't solve the "if everyone is a hero, no one is" problem, I doubt a game half-invested into being a social experience could _________________
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a pair of gators

Joined: 15 Mar 2011 Location: techno, trance, and torment music
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:51 am |
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the pvp gear numbers have to be leveled out some cuz i'm lv 12 and was killing hella 23s tonight
the story in this feels like an armored core game: sparsely told and full of jargon you're never completely filled in on (i find this charming.)
getting around by doing the little glide jump trick where you re-jump right as you land, making you fly way higher/farther is more entertaining than it should be
i like this as a lonely Explore the Cover Art of Cheap Sci-Fi Novels game (mostly soloing the story so i can stare at mountains) but if y'all need a warlock to throw plasma orbs at everything hmu @ thevinculumgate on ps3 |
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SuperWes

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: St. Louis, Missouri
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:01 am |
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I'm level 17 right now and I've been really enjoying it. I think the PSO comparisons are the best. It's basically like PSO with Halo shooting. The thongs people are complaining about are true, but the things it does poorly are just not generally things that I care much about in games. Story is something that can make a game better, but it's not usually why I play something, and it's most certainly not making Destiny better.
What I like most is how there's something different I can do every session depending on my mood. I can play socially by joining a friend's game, I can play PVP by jumping in the Crucible, I can play a strike if I'm feeling like I want some meaty gameplay.
I didn't like Borderlands, I couldn't finish Bioshock, I can't stand Diablo, but I keep finding myself coming back to Destiny every night. It's great!
-Wes _________________
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Focus

Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:40 pm |
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any ps3 space wizard friends i'm "focra" on psn hmu _________________
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Brooks

Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Location: peak caucasity
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:47 pm |
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| Is there anything in this as cool as Dark Phallus though |
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Drem

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: The Planet Bookshelves
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:09 pm |
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| The closest thing I can think of is in the final story mission (spoilers) in The Black Garden there is an amorphous black cube thing that may or may not be a god/entity/alien. Plotwise you are supposed to destroy it but it just shoots electricity into statues which come to life as giant versions of one of the regular enemies (the praetorian). When you kill those statues the cube automatically blows up. The level itself did give me a slight PSO vibe because several of the areas have grass covered in flowers but it never turns into a wasteland like in PSO. |
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Brooks

Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Location: peak caucasity
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:10 pm |
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| Wow that's a lot closer than I could have expected |
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Drem

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: The Planet Bookshelves
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Drem

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: The Planet Bookshelves
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:58 pm |
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| a pair of gators wrote: |
| the pvp gear numbers have to be leveled out some cuz i'm lv 12 and was killing hella 23s tonight |
Yeah, I think the Attack and Defense values aren't accounted for in PvP but I think every other stat may be. Keep in mind Attack isn't actually the damage a weapon a does. When you shoot something your attack is compared to the enemy's defense to see how much of a penalty is applied to the base damage. The stat that decides the base damage is your weapon's Impact stat. This is why a rocket launcher will do more damage than an auto-rifle even if they have the same attack: the auto-rifle will have a piddly impact compared to the rocket launcher. So when you're playing PvP you can still be fighting against people with weapons who have better Impact and of course the abilities for your class and equipment all still play into affect (cooldown modifiers, quicker reload speeds, bonus damage via an equipment ability, etc.) This is how the game balances out people with highly varying levels playing together on missions- it lowers your attack and defense values down to numbers reasonable for the level of the mission you're on. You might have higher Impact weapons but enemies will still be able to hurt you despite your high level armor. It won't raise you up to higher stats though, keeping you from damaging higher level enemies.
That's my understanding of how it works but I could always be wrong. One of the game's special events is a PvP mode called The Iron Banner where those Attack and Defense values are turned on (this was featured during the beta). Bungie released a list of this month's events (one every weekend) and I think there's a The Iron Banner at the end of September. |
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Broco

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Headquarters
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:59 pm |
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I think what you said is along the right lines except that I've observed that in PvE, high-level players wipe the floor with low-level mobs just as the face value of the stats would predict. So:
- I don't think any auto-scaling happens in PvE.
- I think Attack is a multiplier on base damage. It's not just used to compute the defense penalty. |
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notbov

Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:13 pm |
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| Drem wrote: |
| The closest thing I can think of is in the final story mission (spoilers) in The Black Garden there is an amorphous black cube thing that may or may not be a god/entity/alien. Plotwise you are supposed to destroy it but it just shoots electricity into statues which come to life as giant versions of one of the regular enemies (the praetorian). When you kill those statues the cube automatically blows up. The level itself did give me a slight PSO vibe because several of the areas have grass covered in flowers but it never turns into a wasteland like in PSO. |
this, the last boss fight, is the point where I realized Bungie didn't really give a fuck and it soured me something awful, since I was legitimately enjoying myself a bit on the run up to it
then the raid came out and I guess having a few extra mechanics requiring teamwork makes the design of big enemy and adds "work" _________________
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Persona mobile

Joined: 11 Aug 2012
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:14 pm |
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Should we make a clan????????????
I hit level 20 last night. I was playing the Black Garden mission and then the server disconnected me and I lost my progress. Even though I was playing solo.
It sucked. _________________
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8128

Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Location: a very very very fine house
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:07 pm |
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there should definitely be a clan
chairtax made a post about a clan on the last page and i joined it
though maybe some would prefer a sb-specific clan idk
i want to raaaaid _________________
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Broco

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Headquarters
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:51 pm |
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| I don't know if this only on PS4 but the loading time to go to the hub world is truly obnoxious in this game. This guy clocked it at consistently above 60 seconds: http://i.imgur.com/AeRA3dX.png?1 . What's weird is that all of the combat areas load in about half the time of that glorified menu. |
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notbov

Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:10 pm |
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I played through the 360 version and the load times were pretty bad, yeah
it's just the game, not anything else
also, do menus have soccer balls? I think not. _________________
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rye
Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:47 pm |
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i still need to play with all of you _________________
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CONSUME_PRODUCTS

Joined: 29 Jan 2012
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:54 pm |
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yeah i'm into that idea, ps4
(are ps3/4 players segregated?) |
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notbov

Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:56 pm |
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if the beta was any indication, yes, but characters are shared on the same PSN account, so you could in theory bounce between the two _________________
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Persona mobile

Joined: 11 Aug 2012
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:52 am |
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PS3/PS4 are segregated. I am playing in the PS3 ghettos by lonesome because of this. _________________
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allensmithee polyglamorous

Joined: 21 Apr 2011 Location: wherever it is, im dying to get out
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:13 am |
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im on ps3
my psn in DestronPrime
im level 24 !! cool B) _________________
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8128

Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Location: a very very very fine house
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:34 am |
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ps4 forever
me and a bro or two (not jerks) will probably be ready to raid up before too long _________________
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parker a wolf adventuring

Joined: 31 May 2007 Location: suplex city
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:40 am |
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You don't need to make a sb specific clan. Just join the PANTHER MODERNS and pretend my brother is me. He's just a younger and better version of me anyway. _________________
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analogos bravely default crying fairy

Joined: 10 Jun 2007
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:23 am |
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lv25 warlock ps3/4 analogosagnos
feel free to add. having occasional internet issues tho |
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Family Computer
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:52 pm |
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I'm already in a clan but would like to play with y'all whenever. PSN in sig(Ps4) _________________ 3DS Friendcode: 2337-3480-4823
PSN: play2forget
This summer, become Buried In Games. |
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boojiboy7 narcissistic irony-laden twat

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: take me on a blatant doom trip.
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shrugtheironteacup man of tomorrow

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: a meat
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:31 pm |
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I redboxed this, because I hate myself and freedom.
ironcupshrug on PS3 help _________________
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Winona Ghost Ryder lives in a monochromatic world

Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:41 pm |
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| i hope you enjoy a future without beards ;_; |
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ChairTax

Joined: 30 Jan 2012
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:08 pm |
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My friend redbox'd this yesterday and he brought it back five hours later.
Also yeah everyone on PS4 join PANTHER MODERNS |
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shrugtheironteacup man of tomorrow

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: a meat
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:12 pm |
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| Winona Ghost Ryder wrote: |
| i hope you enjoy a future without beards ;_; |
where is my purple spaceman's purple spacebeard >:| _________________
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boojiboy7 narcissistic irony-laden twat

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: take me on a blatant doom trip.
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:09 am |
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| Got this for PS4. boojiboy7, feel free to add me and I will probbaly go through and add a lot of you. |
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Adilegian Rogue Scholar

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Q*Bert Killscreen Nightmare
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:53 pm |
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Got this for PS4 last night and am 3/4ths through level 3. I don't play FPS very often, but the game feels right in terms of my character's physical presence in the world. Maybe having the camera zoom out when i do little contextual actions (like dancing) helps to reinforce the sense of being more than just a camera with hands full of guns and grenades.
I chose the hunter path for my first/main/only character, and I am enjoying knocking Fallen on their asses with sniper rifles. _________________
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ChairTax

Joined: 30 Jan 2012
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:21 pm |
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booji and Adi and anyone else: pls feel free to join the Panther Moderns
I'll be out of town this week so you'll both have time to catch up to me level-wise and I'll be able to approve any clan requests while I'm away. |
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shrugtheironteacup man of tomorrow

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: a meat
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:22 pm |
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hunter's throwing knife is king :|
(shame it's on a cooldown timer gj bungie) _________________
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notbov

Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:42 pm |
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sign, y'all buying it and and I can't go on my PS4 without seeing someone playing
I'm gonna have to get this, aren't I
it's going to be even better since I shit talked the game to a roommate _________________
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allensmithee polyglamorous

Joined: 21 Apr 2011 Location: wherever it is, im dying to get out
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:30 am |
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| shrugtheironteacup wrote: |
hunter's throwing knife is king :|
(shame it's on a cooldown timer gj bungie) |
at the end of the hunter skill tree you get to have two throwing knives and a lil while before that (i think before even triple jump) you get the skill such that if you land a crit on the enemys yellow number g-spot that it should instantly refill.
i dont have the two knives skill on because i find it encourages mistakes but i fucking love getting the last hit on a tougher enemy with the knife and immediately taking out any mooks around me with only the knife
but yall handcannons are the best, truly _________________
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rye
Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:56 pm |
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I like how each of the gun types compliment each other and run something of a gamut of delievery-to-impact ratio
hand-cannon (big damage, low-rate of fire) > scout rifle > pulse rifle > auto rifle (highest rate of fire, lowest damage)
I enjoy using all of them at different times, though auto rifle gets the least play-time. I'm a little too sloppy to use hand-cannons all the time, so i usually go with pulse or scouts. _________________
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tiburon

Joined: 26 Sep 2012
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:41 am |
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| notbov wrote: |
sign, y'all buying it and and I can't go on my PS4 without seeing someone playing
I'm gonna have to get this, aren't I
it's going to be even better since I shit talked the game to a roommate |
don't do it m8 _________________ stream - steam - tweets
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notbov

Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:52 am |
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I flipped a coin for it and it came up heads, I can't disappoint the coin guy
I'll probably wait until I can see if Bungie can make not terrible regular content and fix the game up and buy the game when everyone else isn't playing it anymore _________________
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