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Broco



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:27 pm        Reply with quote

90% of the dialogue in the game is designed to explain your immediate ingame actions with some kind of pseudo-logical reason to do it in terms of impact on the game universe, leaving no space for any wider context. It's so desperate all the time to come up with a reason why quest-of-the-week is essential to the survival of Earth.
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notbov



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:53 pm        Reply with quote

if the overall storyline of Destiny: The Franchise is that your zombie hero (remember that you are technically undead and your presence is represented by your Ghost when you die so deep, so much symbolism) is actually The Darkness because The Traveler is The Darkness and the Vex are actually The Light and you end up having to switch sides and save The Universe from The Traveler with the Vex, that would pretty much be the plot of the first Halo trilogy. I would like to think Bungie has a different idea, seeing as they've already introduced a neutral race (the Cabal are seemingly not affiliated with The Light or The Darkness), which would imply that there's some race somewhere that knows what The Traveler actually is that wouldn't want to kill humanity on sight, but, you know, the writing in the final game is so good as is

so help me god I will hurt people if they keep up with this "The BLANK" naming convention
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:11 pm        Reply with quote

How about how you're supposed to be fighting this desperate struggle but all around you you see other guardians decimating other factions like crazy.
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notbov



Joined: 14 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:22 pm        Reply with quote

well, if actual, full-bodied theme park MMOs still can't solve the "if everyone is a hero, no one is" problem, I doubt a game half-invested into being a social experience could
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a pair of gators



Joined: 15 Mar 2011
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:51 am        Reply with quote

the pvp gear numbers have to be leveled out some cuz i'm lv 12 and was killing hella 23s tonight

the story in this feels like an armored core game: sparsely told and full of jargon you're never completely filled in on (i find this charming.)

getting around by doing the little glide jump trick where you re-jump right as you land, making you fly way higher/farther is more entertaining than it should be

i like this as a lonely Explore the Cover Art of Cheap Sci-Fi Novels game (mostly soloing the story so i can stare at mountains) but if y'all need a warlock to throw plasma orbs at everything hmu @ thevinculumgate on ps3
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SuperWes



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:01 am        Reply with quote

I'm level 17 right now and I've been really enjoying it. I think the PSO comparisons are the best. It's basically like PSO with Halo shooting. The thongs people are complaining about are true, but the things it does poorly are just not generally things that I care much about in games. Story is something that can make a game better, but it's not usually why I play something, and it's most certainly not making Destiny better.

What I like most is how there's something different I can do every session depending on my mood. I can play socially by joining a friend's game, I can play PVP by jumping in the Crucible, I can play a strike if I'm feeling like I want some meaty gameplay.

I didn't like Borderlands, I couldn't finish Bioshock, I can't stand Diablo, but I keep finding myself coming back to Destiny every night. It's great!

-Wes
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Focus



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:40 pm        Reply with quote

any ps3 space wizard friends i'm "focra" on psn hmu
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Brooks



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:47 pm        Reply with quote

Is there anything in this as cool as Dark Phallus though
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Drem



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:09 pm        Reply with quote

The closest thing I can think of is in the final story mission (spoilers) in The Black Garden there is an amorphous black cube thing that may or may not be a god/entity/alien. Plotwise you are supposed to destroy it but it just shoots electricity into statues which come to life as giant versions of one of the regular enemies (the praetorian). When you kill those statues the cube automatically blows up. The level itself did give me a slight PSO vibe because several of the areas have grass covered in flowers but it never turns into a wasteland like in PSO.
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Brooks



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:10 pm        Reply with quote

Wow that's a lot closer than I could have expected
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Drem



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:19 pm        Reply with quote

Link to the level for reference (boss is at 25:00): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlooKtmOSks

My favorite part is the robots doing an alien Tebow.
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Drem



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:58 pm        Reply with quote

a pair of gators wrote:
the pvp gear numbers have to be leveled out some cuz i'm lv 12 and was killing hella 23s tonight


Yeah, I think the Attack and Defense values aren't accounted for in PvP but I think every other stat may be. Keep in mind Attack isn't actually the damage a weapon a does. When you shoot something your attack is compared to the enemy's defense to see how much of a penalty is applied to the base damage. The stat that decides the base damage is your weapon's Impact stat. This is why a rocket launcher will do more damage than an auto-rifle even if they have the same attack: the auto-rifle will have a piddly impact compared to the rocket launcher. So when you're playing PvP you can still be fighting against people with weapons who have better Impact and of course the abilities for your class and equipment all still play into affect (cooldown modifiers, quicker reload speeds, bonus damage via an equipment ability, etc.) This is how the game balances out people with highly varying levels playing together on missions- it lowers your attack and defense values down to numbers reasonable for the level of the mission you're on. You might have higher Impact weapons but enemies will still be able to hurt you despite your high level armor. It won't raise you up to higher stats though, keeping you from damaging higher level enemies.

That's my understanding of how it works but I could always be wrong. One of the game's special events is a PvP mode called The Iron Banner where those Attack and Defense values are turned on (this was featured during the beta). Bungie released a list of this month's events (one every weekend) and I think there's a The Iron Banner at the end of September.
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Broco



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:59 pm        Reply with quote

I think what you said is along the right lines except that I've observed that in PvE, high-level players wipe the floor with low-level mobs just as the face value of the stats would predict. So:
- I don't think any auto-scaling happens in PvE.
- I think Attack is a multiplier on base damage. It's not just used to compute the defense penalty.
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notbov



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:13 pm        Reply with quote

Drem wrote:
The closest thing I can think of is in the final story mission (spoilers) in The Black Garden there is an amorphous black cube thing that may or may not be a god/entity/alien. Plotwise you are supposed to destroy it but it just shoots electricity into statues which come to life as giant versions of one of the regular enemies (the praetorian). When you kill those statues the cube automatically blows up. The level itself did give me a slight PSO vibe because several of the areas have grass covered in flowers but it never turns into a wasteland like in PSO.


this, the last boss fight, is the point where I realized Bungie didn't really give a fuck and it soured me something awful, since I was legitimately enjoying myself a bit on the run up to it

then the raid came out and I guess having a few extra mechanics requiring teamwork makes the design of big enemy and adds "work"
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Persona mobile



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:14 pm        Reply with quote

Should we make a clan????????????

I hit level 20 last night. I was playing the Black Garden mission and then the server disconnected me and I lost my progress. Even though I was playing solo.

It sucked.
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8128



Joined: 06 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:07 pm        Reply with quote

there should definitely be a clan

chairtax made a post about a clan on the last page and i joined it

though maybe some would prefer a sb-specific clan idk

i want to raaaaid
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Broco



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:51 pm        Reply with quote

I don't know if this only on PS4 but the loading time to go to the hub world is truly obnoxious in this game. This guy clocked it at consistently above 60 seconds: http://i.imgur.com/AeRA3dX.png?1 . What's weird is that all of the combat areas load in about half the time of that glorified menu.
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notbov



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:10 pm        Reply with quote

I played through the 360 version and the load times were pretty bad, yeah

it's just the game, not anything else

also, do menus have soccer balls? I think not.
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rye



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:47 pm        Reply with quote

i still need to play with all of you
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CONSUME_PRODUCTS



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:54 pm        Reply with quote

yeah i'm into that idea, ps4

(are ps3/4 players segregated?)
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notbov



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:56 pm        Reply with quote

if the beta was any indication, yes, but characters are shared on the same PSN account, so you could in theory bounce between the two
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Persona mobile



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:52 am        Reply with quote

PS3/PS4 are segregated. I am playing in the PS3 ghettos by lonesome because of this.
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allensmithee
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Joined: 21 Apr 2011
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:13 am        Reply with quote

im on ps3
my psn in DestronPrime

im level 24 !! cool B)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:34 am        Reply with quote

ps4 forever

me and a bro or two (not jerks) will probably be ready to raid up before too long
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parker
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Joined: 31 May 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:40 am        Reply with quote

You don't need to make a sb specific clan. Just join the PANTHER MODERNS and pretend my brother is me. He's just a younger and better version of me anyway.
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analogos
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Joined: 10 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:23 am        Reply with quote

lv25 warlock ps3/4 analogosagnos

feel free to add. having occasional internet issues tho
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:52 pm        Reply with quote

I'm already in a clan but would like to play with y'all whenever. PSN in sig(Ps4)
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boojiboy7
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:54 pm        Reply with quote

Just a heads up to anyone here:

http://www.destinythegame.com/digital-upgrade
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shrugtheironteacup
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Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:31 pm        Reply with quote

I redboxed this, because I hate myself and freedom.

ironcupshrug on PS3 help
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Winona Ghost Ryder
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:41 pm        Reply with quote

i hope you enjoy a future without beards ;_;
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ChairTax



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:08 pm        Reply with quote

My friend redbox'd this yesterday and he brought it back five hours later.

Also yeah everyone on PS4 join PANTHER MODERNS
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:12 pm        Reply with quote

Winona Ghost Ryder wrote:
i hope you enjoy a future without beards ;_;


where is my purple spaceman's purple spacebeard >:|
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boojiboy7
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:09 am        Reply with quote

Got this for PS4. boojiboy7, feel free to add me and I will probbaly go through and add a lot of you.
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Adilegian
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:53 pm        Reply with quote

Got this for PS4 last night and am 3/4ths through level 3. I don't play FPS very often, but the game feels right in terms of my character's physical presence in the world. Maybe having the camera zoom out when i do little contextual actions (like dancing) helps to reinforce the sense of being more than just a camera with hands full of guns and grenades.

I chose the hunter path for my first/main/only character, and I am enjoying knocking Fallen on their asses with sniper rifles.
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ChairTax



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:21 pm        Reply with quote

booji and Adi and anyone else: pls feel free to join the Panther Moderns

I'll be out of town this week so you'll both have time to catch up to me level-wise and I'll be able to approve any clan requests while I'm away.
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shrugtheironteacup
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:22 pm        Reply with quote

hunter's throwing knife is king :|

(shame it's on a cooldown timer gj bungie)
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notbov



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:42 pm        Reply with quote

sign, y'all buying it and and I can't go on my PS4 without seeing someone playing

I'm gonna have to get this, aren't I

it's going to be even better since I shit talked the game to a roommate
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:30 am        Reply with quote

shrugtheironteacup wrote:
hunter's throwing knife is king :|

(shame it's on a cooldown timer gj bungie)


at the end of the hunter skill tree you get to have two throwing knives and a lil while before that (i think before even triple jump) you get the skill such that if you land a crit on the enemys yellow number g-spot that it should instantly refill.

i dont have the two knives skill on because i find it encourages mistakes but i fucking love getting the last hit on a tougher enemy with the knife and immediately taking out any mooks around me with only the knife

but yall handcannons are the best, truly
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rye



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:56 pm        Reply with quote

I like how each of the gun types compliment each other and run something of a gamut of delievery-to-impact ratio

hand-cannon (big damage, low-rate of fire) > scout rifle > pulse rifle > auto rifle (highest rate of fire, lowest damage)

I enjoy using all of them at different times, though auto rifle gets the least play-time. I'm a little too sloppy to use hand-cannons all the time, so i usually go with pulse or scouts.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:41 am        Reply with quote

notbov wrote:
sign, y'all buying it and and I can't go on my PS4 without seeing someone playing

I'm gonna have to get this, aren't I

it's going to be even better since I shit talked the game to a roommate

don't do it m8
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notbov



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:52 am        Reply with quote

I flipped a coin for it and it came up heads, I can't disappoint the coin guy

I'll probably wait until I can see if Bungie can make not terrible regular content and fix the game up and buy the game when everyone else isn't playing it anymore
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