[Adilegian]

[boojiboy7]

I hit 20 last night, but should have soem time to play tonight and maybe tomorrow or saturday, in hopes of getting that higher.

I am really enjoying this game. i love that it still feels like halo just in how i move. i love that i started the game with my usual FPS check (do i have feet?) and the answer was FUCK YEAH I DO.

[Lick Meth]

I kind of like the Destiny song by Paul McCartney, even if they buried it away a bit and also it sounds a bit like Bowie's "Heroes".

[Adilegian]

[boojiboy7]

You need to play some Halo, then, Adilegian, as Halo has been doing that from day 1.

[jodeaux]

http://www.bungie.net/7_Hot-Fix---09252014/en/News/News?aid=12190
RIP Loot cave, gone but never forgotten

[Broco]

Hmm, according to http://www.bungie.net/7_Destiny-Dev-Notes/en/News/News?aid=12188, strike bosses being interminable bullet sponges is at least partly due to a bug ("we've tracked down an issue which has made Strikes more challenging than originally designed by [...] decreasing the damage inflicted by players on the boss"). They haven't fixed that yet in the latest hotfix, but I hope when they do the difference will be significant. Nexus Mind in particular ought die about twice as fast, that 30+ minute boss fight is ridiculous.

[CONSUME_PRODUCTS]

any ideas how i can get the 8 strange coins i need for suros' regime?

enjoying making the numbers go up in this

[boojiboy7]

[CONSUME_PRODUCTS]

there's an npc who spawns in the tower only on fri-sunday who sells exotics for strange coins, it's some armour for 13 and suros' regime for 23 at the moment

[boojiboy7]

Ah cool, thanks for the HOT PROTIPS.

I did read a something that said this game desparately needs an instruction manual, and I kinda agree with that, even though I am enjoying this shit a lot.

[analogos]

weekly strike gives 3/6/9 coins depending on what difficulty you beat it on, one chance per week. your first gold tier on public events per day usually gives one or two, or at the very least can be redeemed for bonuses at the postmaster that have a decent chance of decrypting/dismantling to coins. otherwise you just have to get lucky with blue or better engrams, chests, crucible rewards, and bonuses from ranking up reputation.

[8128]

mmm you can stack those weekly strike coins, can't you

which reminds me

analagos you do the 6-coin weekly strike yet
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[analogos]

you can't stack them, you can just get up to a total of 9. as in: i already did the lv26 this week, but i can still do the 28 for 3 more coins.

help psn is insufferable today

[Persona mobile]

Cryptarch loves turning Blue Encoded Engrams into Strange Coins to spite you. Collect them blue boxes!

I've been stuck at level 24 for a long time. Doing Strike Playlists and shooting at the cave didn't get me any gear that's been able to bump me up higher, and I can't solo the Queen's Missions because they're level 24 and every enemy can kill me in two hits.

I did get a cool Hunter helmet from Xur the weekend dealer from all the Strange Coins I've been stocking up. It's got this rad glowy HUD on the visor but I'll never be able to see it ingame unless I dance and spin the camera around: http://www.destinydb.com/items/144553855-knucklehead-radar#1.MMhvlFC8 http://i.imgur.com/YOSSxTH.jpg


Think I've hit the peak of what you can do in Destiny solo. A lonely life.
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[analogos]

my brother was soloing queen's missions at 22. idk. i'll help you out some time though.

[CONSUME_PRODUCTS]

yeah take your time with them, def doable

[8128]

raidin tomorrowday?!
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[CubaLibre]

[Mr. Mechanical]

I don't know, I just played the beta but I kind of got the impression that they weren't necessarily trying to do their take on Borderlands/Diablo even though that's the obvious and most immediate comparison.

I think over time Destiny will grow more into its own thing and right now it's not faring well as a good Borderlands clone because it's not really trying to be a Borderlands clone. It's trying to be Halo/Marathon but with a persistent world/environment for other players to interact in.

Not quite the same thing.

That said I think from what I've played/seen it all looks and feels very throw together with duct tape at the moment and the game needs another major revision or two before it congeals into what I'm imagining Bungie has in mind for it. I salute all the early adopters out there who are beta testing this thing for me.
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[CubaLibre]

I agree that Destiny doesn't actually have any idea what it wants to be, but of course it co-occupies large mechanical spaces with Borderlands. The games compare usefully.

I don't think they're trying to make Borderlands + Halo - it seems much more to me that they are making Borderlands + MMO. Just look at the past two pages of threads, with talk of stacking multiple currencies and scheduling raids. In every place where Destiny has added MMO elements to its design, it is a worse game. That's one of the problems I have with it.
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Let's Play, starring me.

[analogos]

[Mr. Mechanical]

[notbov]

it occupies the same space so much as there is shooting and there is loot, but they veer off on different paths, a forked road with one way going to Diablo and another going to modern theme park MMOs. the mistake Bungie made with a lot of the design is that they wanted to be able to go back and forth between the paths while reaching their own destination and kinda ended up not really pleasing either crowd. but the shooting feels good.

also, L4D1/2 fail body presence tests even in spite of the physical nature of the mechanics because they're Source engine games and, more importantly, they're Source engine games with ladders
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[CubaLibre]

[tiburon]

[jodeaux]

So, I've enjoyed myself up until this post-20-level hellish nightmare I'm mired in currently. It's going to take me weeks to earn the crucible level in order to purchase armor with light. I have no incentive to do story missions because they net me useless xp. The only useful way to play is if I participate in strike missions, which can last anywhere from 20-30 minutes and I might not even get any useful items from it, though I will get some points towards my vanguard rankings. so now i'm aimlessly playing multiplayer with the hope I'll get some useful items at the end of the round that have light attached to armor.

In conclusion, i have a stack of games that need attention and i'll get back to destiny when it raises the level cap and has a logical sense of progression without the useless, stupid reliance on light armor.

[allensmithee]

i felt like that but it sort of worked itself out as you wind up getting light in armor dropped and then youve got your strange coins and now im almost all equipped and ive barely put much time to play in at all since then and its great.
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[Adilegian]

[8128]

[Adilegian]

[8128]

oh, yeah, that's true. man, i always forget that. you could probably get a bro to do a couple with you, though. i mean, i'd do a couple with you!

also they are 24, which sounds imposing, but they're pretty soloable when you get up there, as long as you're sort of careful
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[Adilegian]

[boojiboy7]

Adi, I will do some Queen's missions with you tonight if you want. I hit 24 just on stuff I have found doing strikes and such. I still haven't finished the story.

I did accidentally get rid of some queen's armor yesterday. meant to discard the other armor I had. Dammit.

Is there any way to trade items in game? I could send another SB person my old light armor as I upgrade it.

[8128]

you can only trade armor between your own characters ;_;
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[ChairTax]

[CONSUME_PRODUCTS]

same

i'm on uk time though i'm at home for the next week so that's pretty flexible

yo exotic weapons take a fucking age to upgrade

[Broco]

[CubaLibre]

I just disagree completely. Maybe there's no evidence of this in the first 30 minutes (probably there isn't - no post-2010 AAA, no matter how good it ends up being, can manage to pull its head out of its ass in the first 30 minutes). But BL2 has a huge number of enemy types, with all kinds of interesting weakpoint design, varied AI and movement abilities. Everything I've seen of Destiny is: shoot dudes in the head.
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Let's Play, starring me.

[Broco]

Borderlands seems defined by sloppy, creative maximalism whereas Destiny has a more minimalist, austere approach, with the same tightly balanced gameplay loop repeated with small variations. It seems I saw the sloppiness without the creativity yet in Borderlands.

Likewise I think the quality of Destiny's gameplay might not be apparent by watching videos of experienced players: they might be making the game seem easier than it really is. What makes the game interesting is really around the Halo shield mechanics. You can be overwhelmed and have to take cover to regen, and likewise you must yourself overwhelm shielded minibosses and flush them out of cover before they regen. Those goals are contradictory and tense/interesting to balance. Good players will make this look like routine headshotting and advancing same as any other FPS though, because they aren't screwing up.

I actually don't believe Borderlands is objectively worse than Destiny, maybe the reverse is even true. Borderlands' design looks coherent: its slapstick style is not particularly undermined by sloppy/broken mechanics (maybe even enhanced). Whereas Destiny has a deep internal contradiction: it wants on the one hand to present a huge, varied world and exciting loot drops, but its commitment to a particular tightly balanced gameplay loop means the world seems repetitive and the loot disappointing. But personally, I don't particularly like Borderlands' atmosphere enough to forgive the sloppy mechanics, whereas I like Halo combat enough to forgive lame MMO stuff and ponderous style.

[notbov]

because Borderlands 2 has health and shields and ties both to loot (to varying degrees, shields moreso than health), it can let the player decide how they wish to approach the issue of what happens when their shields are knocked out or even if they want them up to begin with (there's an entire class of shield in BL2 that revolves around giving the player increased damage when depleted). BL2 may be sloppier mechanically, but in terms of loot, both in breadth and the effects it has on the game space, it one-ups Destiny easily.

they're also sorry about the writing, if the intro trailer to Pre-Sequel is any indication.
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