[boojiboy7]

Man I still need to get in on a raid. I like that first new strike (there is a second one?) but man, the Nightfall version was ROUGH.

I should be level 30 soon, maybe. I gotta get some stuff leveled, but yeah, it could happen.

[8128]

yeah target kills give 25 instead of 10! they're usually worth it
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[Adilegian]

[CONSUME_PRODUCTS]

hawkmoon is fuckin' nice

[8128]

hawkmoon forever
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[ChairTax]

Things I want in Destiny 2:

-A multiplayer that will fully supplant all the horrible grinding of the base game
-DLC maps that aren't terrible

[rye]

I'm starting to get some frustration from all these currency systems!

I had a second character that I had on dead orbit exclusively and didn't level vanguard at all. I figured I could get them to 2 and have enough commendations for two armor pieces, but when I hit vanguard rank 1, I got no commendation. I suspect I won't get one for reaching 2 either. I have 200 marks and uhhh i can't get anymore OR buy anything I need with them. My other character is also capped out on marks, but still has about 1k rep to go until they can actually get anything.

And I don't know guys, even if I get gear from raid 2, now I need a whole bunch of RADIANT shards to level that gear up (in addition to grinding out experience)?

I know this is"how MMOs work", but that doesn't mean it's fun or engaging.

At least FFXIV won't erase the progress on my relic weapon when I upgrade it, nor do they require two forms of currency to buy gear!

There's some fun stuff in this game but it's too much work to get to, and bungie just seems to be making it worse.
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[8128]

can't argue with any of that!

though hey heads up you can trade commendations between characters
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[boojiboy7]

Anyone wnat to run VoG or try to do raid 2 tonight? I am still mid 29, but I just need some materials to level to 30, pretty much.

Bungie's levelling system is kinda a mess right now, yeah, no doubt.

[Adilegian]

[CONSUME_PRODUCTS]

any recommendations re: a legendary sniper rifle?

i was going to give this game a break for a few days but i'm sick as a dog right now and need some comfort numbers-go-up so uh, i'm up for hard vog & absolutely up for nightfall

[Adilegian]

[boojiboy7]

Yeah, I should be up for stuff after like 7:30 EST tonight, so yeah.

[rye]

I'm down for weekly or nightfall tonight around 7:30

Adi, I believe the new legendaries outside of the stuff that drops from Crota's end (from the vanguard/crucible armories, etc) still require ascendant energy to upgrade. They have the higher attack values.
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[CONSUME_PRODUCTS]

isn't this literally icebreaker but legendary?

if you want to hit 30/31 you should probably just get a new set from vendors at this point, putting time and shards into 30 light stuff seems like a dead end

[analogos]

ice breaker has a half dozen things worth raving about, but the regenerating ammo is one of the biggest. certainly would be nice to hit even nearly as hard as ice breaker does without using up an exotic slot, but without the ammo deal i wouldn't say it compares in utility

[Adilegian]

[boojiboy7]

Yeah, I have a couple of post Expansion armors from vanguard/peter stormare, but i lack the shards to level them, ugh.

[CONSUME_PRODUCTS]

black hammer has a 'rapidly hit 3 precision shots = magazine refills for free' perk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISCx8TFqalg#t=1m33 this guy's very enthused about it!

[8128]

that sounds pretty dope

icebreaker's clip is six to begin with though

and when you're shooting a boss head or whatever there's usually some regen by the time you eat through the clip so it's effectively 7-8

raid bosses rarely give you a chance to get in many more hits that that anyway

they could nerf the clip size or the ammo regen or the damage output on that thing and it would still be the best sniper rifle (probably best special weapon period)



that said there are plenty of time i'd use that legendary so i could use a primary exotic yeah
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[analogos]

yeah i still think the gimmick of having ice breaker build either a full mag for itself or half a magazine for whatever other special you have in your inventory just for being equipped is a big deal for certain single player challenges, but this does seem like a potentially higher reward for a slightly higher skill ceiling in a lot of situations.

[rye]

So all the old weapons capped at 300 attack, the new legendaries cap at 332?

Does the 30-odd additional damage even make that much of a difference?

I'm not even totally sure how damage get's calculated anyway, so if someone would like to explain that I am all ears.
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[CONSUME_PRODUCTS]

new stuff is ~330, exotics from bounties/engrams/random rewards are all on the new damage cap

i'm also not sure how much of a difference it makes, though i've read that it makes the 32 enemies in raid2 much more manageable for a 30

[Adilegian]

I'm going to do a thing for maybe an hour and then can probably be available for a raid.
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[another god]

Anyone down for helping me with my first Vault of Glass? I'm only 26 but my 30 bro wants to help me come up to speed
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interdimensional

[rye]

I think your best bet now is to get two vanguard commendations, vanguard marks, and buy the new vendor gear to get yourself to 30 (31 eventually when fully leveled up). Aside from being fun, there isn't too much reason to run VoG now.

I was awarded two 33 light legendary pieces for a titan tonight between getting a new vanguard level and an engram :|
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[ChairTax]

[chocolatecoffin]

[Adilegian]

[boojiboy7]

At the very least, I imagine it sticking around until expansion 2 comes out, at which point OG gear will get bumped to expansion 1 levels, and expansion 1 gear will stay the same with expansion 2 being the new hotness.

Which yeah, :/

[8128]

i have a dream of some post raid 3 patch that adds new difficulties to all the raids at once and sometimes the way bungie talks about stuff it seems like the kind of thing that could happen

hey, though, okay, i don't know how much difference the 300-331 damage difference is at this point, but the primaries available in vog are still pretty cool - that head cannon and that scout rifle in particular. and there's also mythoclast and the bike!
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[Adilegian]

[Lick Meth]

[rye]

They give everyone access to the new equipment from vendors in the tower (legendary weapon drops are usually something that you can also buy in the tower) to everybody.
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[CONSUME_PRODUCTS]

yeah vision of confluence/fatebringer/mythoclast are all still good reasons to do vog

[CONSUME_PRODUCTS]

apparently if the fireteam leader force-quits the game while crota is kneeling, he won't get up or do... anything

oops

[Adilegian]

Between the Nightfall with Rye and Einhander, plus a purchase from Vanguard dude, I'm set up for hitting 31. I'm at 30 now, and I need some more Ascendant Shards to get up fully.

Might be up for doing a raid tonight, this time maybe not on hard though.
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[boojiboy7]

Yeah, I could possibly do one as well.

[rye]

I think the reason we couldn't finish hard was because we had two 29s. Last time we tried hard mode with two 29s, we couldn't even make it past oracles, so we actually did pretty good!

It's better to do hard over normal, because you get double drops after checkpoints if you skip normal, with all rolls being on the HM loot-table.

I'm on my way to 31 as well. Hopefully I'll hit it some time next week.
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[Adilegian]

I didn't see anyone online tonight when I hopped on, but yes! We should pick up on the Hard raid soon. I can Contribute Meaningfully.
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[boojiboy7]

The problem for me is that I was doing the raid because i needed materials to get to 30, so uh, waiting for me to be 30 to do the raid is a bit of a paradox.