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Rokkan

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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:38 am Post subject: WOMEN IN VIDCONS: NO, NOT THE ANITA THING |
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So, in this uni class, one of our works is to design & print a catalog of anything we'd like. I decided to do a short catalog of Cool Women Characters In Games. I devised my list with certain priorities in mind: Variety - which means representing different kids of women and minorities, but also characters from different ages of gaming and developers, and different characters with different roles as well, as long as they're important to the game. Non-Grossness, being that this industry is mostly dominated by men, both with the devs and the consumers (though the consumer base is arguable seeing as how in different games, genres and platforms we might have a majority of women) it's only natural that we see a lot of gross shit. I'm trying to keep that to a minimum and try to mostly represent the good, non-problematic eggs. And finally, Importance, the character needs to have at least a little bit of popularity and positive or neutral importance, and some choices are here mostly because they are overwhelmingly popular.
Here's the problem though, it's really hard finding official art of a lot of these characters, I was wondering if selectbutton would help me out, linking me to good websites of hi-res artworks and scans of games and stuff. Some of these characters definitely do NOT have good high-res stuff online and i will have to completely redraw their illustrations or do a completely new illustration for them, and since I'll probably only have a short time to do this catalog, I wanna keep the illustration work to a minimum (especially because I'd love to have a lot of time to draw a kickass cover and back to the book!), so help finding good artwork is crucial! (i'd be ETERNALLY THANKFUL if cool artists would also help with illustration, that'd be super rad but i really don't wanna ask for that/rely on it)
Here's the list of characters and how the image search is coming along so far:
http://pastebin.com/hDxKvpCr
(don't mind the order, that's not going to be the final order of the catalog)
I'm pretty set on this list but if you strongly feel I left a cool character out or not considered something important, please feel free to tell me so.
Also, if anyone also wants to help me with this, I'll probably need help writing short descriptions for a lot of those, a lot of these are from games I admittedly never played but only heard a lot & researched online about, I could write all of them myself, as I'm researching a lot about these characters, but it's likely to have some errors. |
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Dark Age Iron Savior king of finders

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: Spacecraft, Juanelia Country
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:12 am |
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| I think it might help clarify what you're looking for a bit if you gave a few examples of how you feel about different images you've already found, ie, what you think is good quality, what is possible to work with and what is right out. |
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GcDiaz

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: Clinton, MA
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:20 am |
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Be careful with Vanessa Lewis, they whitewashed her worse than Beyonce. _________________ Steam/PSN/Xbawks: GcDiaz
Let's bring sexy back!
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Talbain

Joined: 14 Jan 2007
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:15 am |
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http://library.servare.org
Has most of the characters you're looking for in high-resolution. PM me if you're missing stuff, I can probably help--the library hasn't been updated in months now. _________________
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BenoitRen I bought RAM

Joined: 05 Jan 2007
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:52 am |
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Now that Talbain's resource has been linked (didn't know that it had moved, though), you should be set for most characters.
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| 01.Princess Peach (Super Mario) |
She always gets kidnapped. And then there's Super Princess Peach...
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| 02.Samus Aran (Metroid) |
This is a good choice if you keep to pre-Metroid Prime 2. They turned her into some Barbie doll starting with that game, and destroyed her character in Metroid: Other M.
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| 05.Alis Landale (Phantasy Star) |
As a Phantasy Star fan, I approve of including the first female JRPG heroine.
I see Talbain's resource has only one image of the original Phantasy Star. On my other computer I have a scan of Alisa Landale from Phantasy Star Gaiden. It's not exactly high-res, but it's better than the alternatives. It's from an official book, but I don't remember which one, and I'm not finding it in the scans at Phantasy Star Cave. ...Wait, I found it. It's from Phantasy Star Gaiden's manual. Specifically, the characters section. I must say the illustration of her in the prologue section looks even better. _________________ Get Xenoblade Chronicles!
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| Whenever I read things like "id like to by a new car," I cringe inside, imagine some grunting ape who happened across a keyboard, and move on without thinking about the attempted message. |
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Talbain

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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:04 am |
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I generally try to avoid scans due to them being terrible. Thus it's difficult to find quality images of old games. _________________
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BenoitRen I bought RAM

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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:49 am |
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I prefer digital versions over scans, too, but I wouldn't say scans are terrible. _________________ Get Xenoblade Chronicles!
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| Whenever I read things like "id like to by a new car," I cringe inside, imagine some grunting ape who happened across a keyboard, and move on without thinking about the attempted message. |
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Jigsaw

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Gorblax Ganbare Gorbly!

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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:38 pm |
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As long as Princess Peach is Super Mario Bros. 2 Princess Peach it's cool. Maybe from that soccer game. The art in that was pretty cool. _________________
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Takashi

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Talbain

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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:16 pm |
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| BenoitRen wrote: |
| I prefer digital versions over scans, too, but I wouldn't say scans are terrible. |
We'll agree to disagree I think. Maybe that will change with some of the more photography-based methodologies in the future, but who knows. _________________
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GrimmSweeper

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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:33 pm |
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| I'd almost push you into looking at Heather Mason, the protagonist from Silent Hill 3, as an addition. The horror genre is kind of missing an entry although SH3 came out in 2003 which you already have Jade, another competent protagonist with a relate-able personality and Lyndis from Fire Emblem. |
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Sly Buccelli

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Rokkan

Joined: 30 Jan 2012
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:19 pm |
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thank you so much Talbain, that site helped me a lot!!
the only ones missing really are Um Jammer Lammy, Kumatora, GlaDOS, Agatha from Pokémon, General Beatrix and Mae from Shining Force
there are some that I have but aren't very good/could do with one or two more good pictures, which are Vanessa from Virtua Fighter, Elaine from Monkey Island, Alyx from Half-Life, Yelena from Deus Ex (got good pictures of her but they're either low-res or with a lot of jpeg artifacts), Medusa from Kid Icarus (there's only one artwork of her i think) and Isabelle from Animal Crossing |
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CubaLibre the road lawyer

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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:21 pm |
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| GcDiaz wrote: |
| Be careful with Vanessa Lewis, they whitewashed her worse than Beyonce. |
Yeah you'll need to specify VF4 version. _________________ Let's Play, starring me. |
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Talbain

Joined: 14 Jan 2007
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:36 pm |
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Rokkan, I'll try and find some better versions for you, but if you don't mind, can you link what you have for the characters you want so I can get an idea of what to look for?
Also, glad you like my site. Hoping it will be a visual resource people want to use in the future. Let me know if there are characters on white backgrounds that you would prefer with transparency, as I may be able to provide them if I have the original. _________________
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schroeder

Joined: 06 Mar 2013 Location: Interior of mind n+1
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:40 pm |
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Just look at that bikini armor... |
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Jigsaw

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Talbain

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Rokkan

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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:23 pm |
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My Vanessa (Virtua Fighter) pictures are her only high-res render from Virtua Fighter 5 and a sorta low-res render of her from Virtua Fighter 4, I think these are the only pictures that are available of her online.
My Alyx pictures are the ones from your website, which are pretty high-res but she's always "cut" or overshadowed by Gordon Freeman, and this one which is pretty good and I don't think your website has it https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20235127/ALYX1.jpg
My Yelena pictures are basically the ones found in the Deus Ex wiki http://deusex.wikia.com/wiki/Yelena_Fedorova but as you can see, if you zoom in you'll quickly notice they're upscaled and full of jpeg artifacts and stuff, but it's no biggie, i can paint over it and enhance them manually
My Elaine pictures are these two https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20235127/ELAINE1.jpg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20235127/ELAINE2.jpg and the amazingly high-res cover that you have of the first Monkey Island game, the problems are that, as you can see, the first one not only is just a sketch but is also hideously upscaled & full of jpeg artifacts. The second one is a really good picture but I really wish I had a full body one, and in the lucasarts cover art, there's that monkey in front of her. I'm thinking of maybe painting that sketch to make it look like the second picture, maybe. I really wish there was artwork available of her from the first games that weren't in-game pixel-art and her appearance in the first game's cover art.
Isabelle, I can't seem to find anything from her other than these two artworks: http://library.servare.org/picture.php?/3719/category/652 and http://library.servare.org/picture.php?/3703/category/650 there's lots of fanart of her though, I might just ask someone's fanart or draw it myself.
And finally, Medusa from Kid Icarus, I think this is the only available artwork of her online http://library.servare.org/picture.php?/55698/category/3983
Maybe there's some artwork of her in the instruction manual for the Famicom game? I don't know, can't find any. |
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Talbain

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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:03 pm |
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I've only got the Virtua Fighter 5 renders, I wasn't able to find any good Yelena renders, though I will have to wait for a friend to get back to me about those. I've some low-res concept art for Elaine, but not much else. Alyx is kinda the same. I might have some different poses for Medusa and Isabelle, as well as some renders of them, but I don't have any art of their older incarnations.
I'll do some more asking around and see what I can dig up. _________________
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Rokkan

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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:18 pm |
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| Different poses for Medusa and Isabelle are awesome, if you can find those I'd love them! |
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luvcraft buy my game buy my game me me me

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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:28 pm |
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this is a really good list! I hope you can do a run of a physical book for this, because I'd REALLY like to replace my daughter's "Disney Princess Encyclopedia" with it. :) _________________
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BenoitRen I bought RAM

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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:12 pm |
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I haven't played much of Sega's Nightshade yet, but in someone else's list of strong female characters Hibana (the main character) from that game was present. _________________ Get Xenoblade Chronicles!
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| Whenever I read things like "id like to by a new car," I cringe inside, imagine some grunting ape who happened across a keyboard, and move on without thinking about the attempted message. |
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Rokkan

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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:25 pm |
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I can't find artwork of Hibana that's not gross. Her outfit is also super sexualized, so I decided to not put her in. Ibuki was going to replace her as the kunoichi representative, but then I also replaced Ibuki with Makoto because Makoto is so awesome & it's so rare we find a female character like that in fightmans.
luvcraft, that makes me super happy! This book in particular will probably just be for my class but I'm definitely keeping what you said in mind, and will try my best at it!! :)
Oh yeah, also, I forgot to put there, I can't find good hi-res artworks of Akira from Rival Schools. I just found a ton of artworks but they're all very low-res and also very cropped. |
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BenoitRen I bought RAM

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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:21 am |
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Are you serious? I found some tasteful images of Hibana without even trying. This is definitely not gross, though I can see how the see-through parts of the outfit sexualise her. _________________ Get Xenoblade Chronicles!
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| Whenever I read things like "id like to by a new car," I cringe inside, imagine some grunting ape who happened across a keyboard, and move on without thinking about the attempted message. |
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Rud31 forum ruler of Iraq

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Rei sexy mf'er
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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:27 am |
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Toptube Anti-cabbage Party Candidate
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BenoitRen I bought RAM

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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:17 pm |
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| It's doing the ass-boobs shot. |
...I see. But does that really count as "gross"?
At any rate, there are more to choose from. Surely there's at least one that isn't "gross" on that page. _________________ Get Xenoblade Chronicles!
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| Whenever I read things like "id like to by a new car," I cringe inside, imagine some grunting ape who happened across a keyboard, and move on without thinking about the attempted message. |
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Jigsaw

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Rokkan

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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:09 pm |
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Toptube: No it's not! It says 4 pictures in perfect condition! I got a bunch of high-quality images of her! Thanks a lot though!
Jigsaw: THANK YOU, that is very high-res and it's also full-body, thank you so much! I can do image editing myself, but I'll let you know in case I need some help!
I might reconsider Hibana and Jill Valentine in, and also consider Heather Mason, Lucia and Joanna Dark, I'll let you folks know! |
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winkerwatson badmin

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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:57 pm |
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Dino Crisis? _________________ tim? |
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Rokkan

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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:53 pm |
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| Added Heather Mason, Hibana from Nightshade/Kunoichi, Regina from Dino Crisis and Ellie from Borderlands 2 into the list! Got good high-res pictures of all of them! |
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Glam Grimfire

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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:04 pm |
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nilin in remember me
sticking to just the official game art, stay away from the advertisements (that whitewash her) _________________
##SKELETON PARTY (new article as of 04/26/14)Grim |
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Jigsaw

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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:42 pm |
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| Oh um if you're taking suggestions you might want to look into D'arci Stern from Urban Chaos and Aveline de Grandpré from Assassin's Creed III Liberation, both rare examples of (mostly non-sexualized?) black female protagonists. |
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CubaLibre the road lawyer

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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:42 am |
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I am of the serious and very real opinion that the best female character in videogames is the Terran dropship pilot in Starcraft. All business.
Of course she is basically just a character from Aliens but still. _________________ Let's Play, starring me. |
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Ronnoc

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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:41 am |
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| CubaLibre wrote: |
I am of the serious and very real opinion that the best female character in videogames is the Terran dropship pilot in Starcraft. All business.
Of course she is basically just a character from Aliens but still. |
On that note, I was thinking today that Second Lieutenant Mira is a good call for this, unless it's protag-only. |
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CubaLibre the road lawyer

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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:26 pm |
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Oh man, good call. Space Marine didn't get the love it should have. _________________ Let's Play, starring me. |
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Talbain

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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:43 pm |
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Here's an alternate concept art for Kazama Akira that was used for Onimusha Soul:  _________________
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Rokkan

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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:25 pm |
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hey!! sorry for not keeping you guys posted about it, I'm hard at work on it, currently finished 13 pages out of 28 (not counting index, introduction, cover and whatnot, just the character pages), but here's something I finished just now:
wasn't really happy with the few high-res artworks of Alis available, so I decided to redraw the title screen pixel-art of her!
will post more previews soon! |
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