[DJ]

Yeah I'm a bit amazed Brazil managed to tax/fee the console to four times its retail price in the US and that Sony just went with it instead of setting the price to Brazil to be at-cost just so they could get an install base over there (although for all I know that IS the price at-cost to Sony).
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[Kilroy]

Using the stated dimensions and weight of the PS4 and this, I could find something of similar density (974 kg/m^3) to bury the PS4 in when shipping it. Light Mayonnaise is apparently the closest at 1000 kg/m^3. Would an entire box filled with Mayonnaise raise the suspicions of Brazillian customs?
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[notbov]

[DJ]

Kinda debating streaming some Resogun or Killzone when I get home from work if anyone wants to check it out. Watch me be terrible at FPS games using a controller because I've long since forgotten how!
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[Drem]

Anyone else not having the What's New section and game activities appearing? That's literally half of the UI not working for me. Is PSN having trouble?


The one thing that sticks out to me so far is how crisp and clear the games are. I suppose this is the whole 1080p thing but it's really nice.

Just the other day I was asking if anyone was still making exploratory FPS games and lo and behold, Killzone Shadowfall is a breath of fresh air. The game lacks any tension or drama (maybe I should I be playing on hard?), but it's nice to have a large area to move in and find your own path through and the platformy/puzzly elements were more enjoyable than I thought. The zipline mechanic seems like it will be a lot of fun to exploit in all of the levels and should make for some interesting speedruns. The game is growing on me. It's weird how the combat segments feel like accents to the enviornment traversal rather than the overall point since the enemies are sparse and in very small groups. Maybe this changes (I'm on level 3) but it's good change of pace.

Lego Marvel Super Heroes is fantastic. From the first second of gameplay it was already a huge improvement over Lego Batman 2: DC Super Heroes. The game does such a fantastic job of evoking the Marvel characters through both their animations and their moves, something that's a bit harder to do with Batman and Robin since they're known more for their personalities than combat techniques. While Lego Batman 2 featured a ton of playable characters from throughout DC, the game was still The Batman and Robin Show. The levels were all played with B&R first and most of the puzzles are solved using their various suits while in Marvel the superheores' powers are classified to work in certain puzzles (Big Characters can interactive with heavy objects, characters with Superhero Sense can detect hidden objects). B&R had some fairly generic melee attacks and limited usage from their suit powers but Marvel's characters are more developed; Hulk can break pieces off the ground and throw them, clap the air, pound the ground, grab enemies and slam them to the fro, and grab allies and slam them to and fro. Iron Man shoots his proton cannons, can fly around and shoot missiles, and can charge up his uni-beam. Spider-Man can swing around and that's all I've done with him so far. Mr. Fantastic can turn into a teapot. Again, the graphics are crisp and vibrant and full of character and the animations for the characters are unique and ostentatious, often making call-backs to the current Movie universe. The only downside so far is that the humor is more blunt and cliched than Lego Batman and the voice acting worse. Lego Batman had a nice subtlety to its writing and quips (even making swipes at the Arkham City) and used as many of the voice actors from the DC Animated Universe cartoons as it could. But I'm really looking forward to playing through this game. It should be good in two-players as well.

I haven't played too much of Knack but I'm enjoying the enemy encounters more than I expected. I like how they eschewed complexity of combat abilities in favor of focusing on movement to avoid attacks and make openings.


Edit: http://youtu.be/SZi91tFHpWQ

[DJ]

Yeah definitely play Killzone on Hard. It's not "you're dead in half a second if you so much as stick a toe out of cover" difficult like the Call of Duty games are when you set them to Veteran*, but you can still get cut down very quickly if you blindly rush ahead or get broadsided by enemy fire coming from an unexpected location before you have time to react. It actually works in the game's favor by making you carefully survey the landscape, use the Radar frequently, and set ambushes rather than go in like a kamikaze bullet sponge.

Anyway, here is my twitch channel. I'm gonna go to the store first and buy some food/coffee, but then I'll get right on streaming my embarrassingly bad console FPS skills.

EDIT: Actually, by "go to the store" I apparently meant "create new SB icons for Twitch and Steam and stick them below my sig banner" because that's what I did. Actually going to the store now though.

*Not that that stopped me from doing it anyway but it I really hate that type of game design. It's not fun, it's just annoying.
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[DJ]

So the stream's over for now, played for a few hours. Works...Weirdly well, actually?
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[km]

Wait, the LEGO whatever games have voice acting now?

Part of the appeal of LEGO Star Wars was the reliance on visual storytelling :/
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[Drem]

Yeah, starting with Lego Batman 2 they've jumped to full voice acting so it's just two games so far. I too lamented the change but honestly Lego Batman 2 wasn't bad at all thanks to the good writing and voice acting. The series has just made a jump from " Tuesday morning puppet cartoon for 2 year olds" to "Saturday morning action cartoon for 7 year olds".


The What's New section told me that DJ is streaming Resogun right now and took me right to his channel in "Live on Playstation." The smoke boss he was fighting was so, so cool. The What's New section was also giving me updates on all the records Notbov was making in Killzone Shadowfall and gave me the option to join his game. The game booted up and gave me a message that it was waiting for a spot to open up on his team. It was taking a while and I went back to Killzone's menu to mess around but once a spot opened up it put me in the game with Notbov. That's some good integration there. I do wonder why it doesn't let you write comments on events like on PS Vita. It seems all you can do is thumbs up stuff.

[notbov]

My dark PS4 secret: Of all the games that have some how made their way onto my system, the game I've played the most is Knack. The nagging voice in the back of my head keeps telling me that it's no great shakes, but there's a nice purity to it, an old-school flavor that's oddly compelling...

...compelling until a robot with a giant 2x4 one-shots Knack into a billion individually motion-blurred pieces. Then it starts being like a less violent, slower Hotline Miami as the die-restart-die cycle starts.
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[ArOne]

Knack is pretty fun as a "pass the controller when you die" kind of game in my circle of friends. In my mind, it kind of feels as hard as I wish the lego games were if that makes any sense. It feels pretty fun but I couldn't really see myself throwing down 60 or whatever it costs myself.

I wonder, do the FTP games (Blacklight, Warframe) have any crossover with anyone playing on PC? It could be cool to see the games get a nice influx of players but could also lead to a lot of complaints of the inherent advantage of mouse+keyboard in FPS games.
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[DJ]

Honestly the more I use this thing the more it seems like a future box in a good way. I still think PC is vastly superior as an all-round gaming machine because that's kind of indisputable, but PS4 is shaping up to be a hell of a wingman with a few interesting tricks of its own. I think that's the important part, actually. I never bothered to replace my 360 because it just seemed like a dumber PC, whereas the PS4 feels like its own thing that's distinct.

Part (possibly all) of this is probably just the whole "Oooh new shiny thing!" feeling though. We'll see.
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[Gouki]

You know, I'll reassess in 6 months or whatever, but for now, I'm beyond happy with my Wii U and have no desire to get a PS4 or One.
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[Takashi]

According to my twitter, it's possible that the PS4 doesn't let you flip the X O buttons to its proper japanese-style navigation functions, cancel your orders now.
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[BenoitRen]

[notbov]

Warframe and Blacklight don't have crossplay and DCUO only has it with PS3 players, though when War Thunder launches, it's going to share players with the PC version and have full kb/m support (and they're talking about having keyboard controls in place for FF14), so it's possible.

They dropped the ball out Blacklight too, I'm agent level 3 in that but I still can't unlock a loadout without spending money, which means I'm locked out from making guns, which is the game's Interesting Thing, so nuts to that (though it's still a decent play).
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[bza]

Warframe does have crossplay... coming in the next update! (lol)
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[lolipalooza]

[Drem]

I remember a Sony announcing a while back that they were going to start manufacturing PS3s in Brazil and the price was still ludicrous.


Has anyone here played Super Motherload? My family wants me to bring the PS4 home for Thanksgiving and Christmas but there aren't a lot of single-console multiplayer games out right now (and now I have to buy some controllers too).

[Kilroy]

[Drem]

I love how Sound Shapes turns your PS4 controller into a lightshow based on the level's colors and beat.

[Felix]

I've gone back to Sound Shapes a couple times now, which is a couple more than I expected. Some of the user-created challenge levels are really quite good (some aren't), even if the game's not much more than Knytt Stories with a lot of work put into one particular aesthetic.

[notbov]

My word, the support class's minigun in KZ is Dumb and the fact that getting revived refills your ammo makes it even dumber and the you throw your air turret buddy and if people don't knock it out of the sky, you hit Maximum Dumb, since it basically calls enemies out for you. With bullets.

I think Tiny Brains comes out before Thanksgiving, and that has 4-player local co-op. Assuming, of course, that you're willing to buy 200 bucks worth of controller.
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[Drem]

What I've found myself doing a lot in Killzone is playing the Scout as a pure support class. I sit in a corner and use the Tactical Echo and flashbang drones over and over, racking up support points.

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[DJ]

[lolipalooza]

(I amassed my data re: PS4 launch price in Brazil but didn't post because it's depressing and full of lies)

[BenoitRen]

[Felix]

x86 PC >> Android > Xbox > Wii > PSP > Dreamcast / GBA / DS for emulation, roughly (and then you have a handful of other platforms which are adequate but no great shakes, like the PSX/PS2 which had emulators written for them which nobody used, or Symbian / jailbroken iOS / BB10 / WinPhone, all of which have a GBA/PSX/MAME solution).

and I agree that the PC is the most broadly "sensible" choice for gaming these days but I think it inherited that title from the PS2 which isn't necessarily the most straightforward step, so it's not like this is beyond dispute

[BenoitRen]

[nuttyevans]

Man I should really dig the gf's Wii out and set it up as an emulatorbox.

[Loki Laufeyson]

do the 360 and ps3 not have emulation scenes? i'm surprised
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[notbov]

That system war is old and boring. We have a brand new system war to talk about here.

Speaking of which, the One won't have built-in livestreaming at launch, which is a bit of a bummer, but it doesn't have HDCP over HDMI for games, so you can still use capture cards. I'm also delighted by the DR3 reviews coming out, since that's like, the one Xbone game I want.
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[another god]

I really don't see how you guys are actually having this "what one console?" argument in this day and age. It's obviously either a sweet gaming rig or an upgraded sixty gig triple. Anyone saying anything else is fucking dumb AND stupid. Unless, of course, you're picking the Wii, then you're some sort of videogaming savant years beyond the selectbutton peasantry.
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[sarsamis]

upgraded?

[Family Computer]

Gotta get those hot exclusive PC game titles that you can only play with your 3DFX Voodoo 2 3D accelerator.
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[BenoitRen]

[Lasakon]

As an idiot that has over 100000 achievement points this still feels gross to me.
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[notbov]

twitch please

I was hipstering streams before you made it a thing

I'm also going to assume that the app is going to be terrible or subpar, like nearly every other official twitch app
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[Pijaibros]

[Drem]

PS4 does have HDCP but Sony said they are going to patch it out after people complained. This is a very important launch for Sony and they have been surprisingly accomodating to fan desires. I can't help but feel like we didn't make as much use of this opportunity as we could have. I mean, when Sony has started namedropping Yakuza 5 in interviews as a game they need to get localized, anything is possible.


P.S. Killzone doesn't have any voice chat in any form. Guerilla Games' response to complaints is "we are going to look into whether it's possible". What year is this?