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jodeaux



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:26 am        Reply with quote

I'd like to read an interview with a developer and see how exactly they choose to defend such a blatant rip-off. I lol'd at the part where she's tracking the wolves because I thought we were going to get a sequel to the infamous Tomb Raider trailer.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:17 am        Reply with quote

Y'all acting snippy but maybe it will also be a cool time like SotC was.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:24 am        Reply with quote

I'm also a bit taken aback by the reaction. I don't see any reason it can'tt be a ok time.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:31 am        Reply with quote

I gotta admit the name is silly. The cultural mish-mash is a bit odd and doesn't really contextualize place or space well, at least in the trailer.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:48 am        Reply with quote

wasn't most everyone here just taking a shit on the actual ueda game, during the last guardian comeback special, after you all bought ps3s and 4s just for it
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 1:30 pm        Reply with quote

Rudie I don't doubt the game has potential.

The problem is really the gross pandering.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:44 pm        Reply with quote

It's hard not to turn to snark as an initial reaction to a game so blatantly ripping off another game (though that's probably something we should be used to by now)

It might be good but it will almost certainly not be as good as the game it's copying
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 6:39 pm        Reply with quote

i got nothing against people making Game People Liked N+1, so sorry, can't get riled up about anything there

looks alright I guess, we'll see how it stands on its own
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:52 pm        Reply with quote

snarkin hard up here
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:59 pm        Reply with quote

if Ueda ships newGame™ sometime around that hitting shelves, will anybody care?



probably not. what are the chances of ueda-game coming out for real? that's a good question there, huh …
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:47 pm        Reply with quote

I am hitching my boat to Rime as the unreleased pseudo-Ueda videogame most deserving of attention.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:54 am        Reply with quote

I could have sworn I posted something along the lines of "yeah maybe they've gone too far past the spiritual successor line into copycat town but if there was ever a game that deserved a few retreads it was SotC
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:35 am        Reply with quote

I guess but they really coulda pushed themselves on the presentation

Like even a scifi hellscape would be something

People recall Colossus so fondly and I suppose defensively because most videogames are really really bad, heightened sense of the rarity of a title that isn't?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:39 pm        Reply with quote

That EDGE Top 100 list is such a terrible, terrible list. Nothing interesting, badly implemented restrictions (no numerical sequels when something like RE1 is way different from RE4, while Demon's Souls and Dark Souls are almost interchangeable for the purposes of this list) and inclusion of games that have been barely out. How can you assess the greatness of a work that you probably played 2 days straight to jizz out an on-schedule review?

But I admit, I am personally at fault for having such a high affinity intellectually for the historical development of any discipline or area I take interest in, since video games seem to attract people on the complete opposite side of the spectrum: "everything old is shit".
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:55 pm        Reply with quote

Raziel wrote:
But I admit, I am personally at fault for having such a high affinity intellectually for the historical development of any discipline or area I take interest in, since video games seem to attract people on the complete opposite side of the spectrum: "everything old is shit".

I don't know about that... I think gamers are very apt to give too much uncritical credit to hoary old standards of the medium. Rather I think, as some other posters have said, the Edge list is intended to be different from a typical Best list which would otherwise have to include classics going back to the 70s and 80s, but falls flat because, well, it's still a bad list.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:09 am        Reply with quote

Raziel wrote:
video games computers seem to attract people on the complete opposite side of the spectrum: "everything old is shit".

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:46 pm        Reply with quote

check out this cool #gamescrit bot someone made

"The privileging of interactivity is productive of affects other than complicity, of course. Frustration, triumph and boredom stand at the center. Reflection and disassociation. Complicity is unique only insofar as it is the affect that is just as tied to formal properties, but requires that it be narrativized to be explicitly enacted."
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:59 pm        Reply with quote

Someone finally perfected REmake
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:13 am        Reply with quote

Mushroom 11 was released, a whole week ago!

http://mushroom11.com/
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:39 pm        Reply with quote

Devil's Third is still totally coming out! It even got an amazing American box art shown:


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:11 pm        Reply with quote

I actually saw the game on store shelves last week.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:02 pm        Reply with quote

Devil's Third is already out in EU and Japan, but the US version was up in the air and then people yelled loudly when it disappeared from E3 this year and now Nintendo is putting it out like they were going to

so now NA is getting Devil's Third at retail. meanwhile, Fatal Frame is eShop only here

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:04 pm        Reply with quote

Ymer wrote:
Devil's Third is still totally coming out! It even got an amazing American box art shown:


I hope that retina-ravaging shade of blue is actually going to be on the box and isn't just an error in the image
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:46 pm        Reply with quote

Is Devil's Third worth playing? I know it's by the dude who was behind Dead or Alive and Ninja Gaiden, and those started sucking when he stopped doing them.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:22 am        Reply with quote

For someone who is such a perfectionist, it's shocking to see how bad Itagaki let Devil's Third Get. I'm not sure I'm even going to buy it as a novelty.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:33 am        Reply with quote

all impressions point to the game having an iffy single-player campaign and surprisingly okay multiplayer
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:38 am        Reply with quote

Ninja Gaiden 3 rules.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:46 am        Reply with quote

Its upsetting to me how good ninja gaiden 1 and 2 are and how BAD ninja gaiden 3 is. And now we get Devil's Third, which by all accounts looks piss poor. I don't even have a point to make it just gets me riled up to think about it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:13 pm        Reply with quote

CubaLibre wrote:
Raziel wrote:
But I admit, I am personally at fault for having such a high affinity intellectually for the historical development of any discipline or area I take interest in, since video games seem to attract people on the complete opposite side of the spectrum: "everything old is shit".

I don't know about that... I think gamers are very apt to give too much uncritical credit to hoary old standards of the medium. Rather I think, as some other posters have said, the Edge list is intended to be different from a typical Best list which would otherwise have to include classics going back to the 70s and 80s, but falls flat because, well, it's still a bad list.

agree
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:49 pm        Reply with quote

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The purpose of a (good, fun) top [x] list is to be provocative and unconventional, and this list fails to do that because it feels ridiculously short-sighted and contemporary instead of anything that would drive discussion.

Your film list analogy isn't far off from what top [x] books lists always look like. Either slavishly devoted to the western canon (the small part of it that's fairly appealing to modern sensibilities anyway), or so bleeding-edge contemporary as to be uselessly short-sighted, with nothing in-between.

Lists are an opportunity to surprise people and drive them to investigate things that they haven't heard of. Edge's list is "the 100 games I played for more than an hour last year"

So, the contentious idiosyncrasies of ABDN's manifesto list are exactly what make it valuable.

It should come as a surprise to no one that King of Dragon Pass and probably Crusader Kings 2 will veer dangerously close to the top of my lists


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 5:43 am        Reply with quote

adol wrote:
Its upsetting to me how good ninja gaiden 1 and 2 are and how BAD ninja gaiden 3 is. And now we get Devil's Third, which by all accounts looks piss poor. I don't even have a point to make it just gets me riled up to think about it.

Agreeing with this but I'll still inevitably pick up Devil's Third when it hits the bargain bin out of curiosity
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:07 am        Reply with quote

The Troops wrote:
check out this cool #gamescrit bot someone made

"The privileging of interactivity is productive of affects other than complicity, of course. Frustration, triumph and boredom stand at the center. Reflection and disassociation. Complicity is unique only insofar as it is the affect that is just as tied to formal properties, but requires that it be narrativized to be explicitly enacted."


I'm guessing this is actually real, because it parses as sentences (and as a paragraph, even) but I can't really imagine how complicity requires narrativization but triumph doesn't. I guess we'll never know for sure.

Also no matter how many times anyone tries to explain it, I will never understand what people mean by affect.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:38 pm        Reply with quote

Ni Go Zero Ichi wrote:
Ymer wrote:
Devil's Third is still totally coming out! It even got an amazing American box art shown:


I hope that retina-ravaging shade of blue is actually going to be on the box and isn't just an error in the image

i see it as green.. i'm slightly excited to find a digital image which causes this effect

cake was reprimanded for this post - axe posting in a non-axe event.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:14 pm        Reply with quote



Setting traps and fighting big robot dinosaurs and, oh look it's got numbers because RPG elements or whatever? Still not really sure about this game but it's starting to look like there might be something there. At least Guerrilla Games aren't just making another FPS.

Also they just announced a release date for No Man's Sky at Paris Games Week: June, 2016.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:19 pm        Reply with quote

Who wants a new David Cage turd, now featuring by far the most turgid, artless, thoughtless, dishonest current sci-fi trope this side of YA dystopias?


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This one actually looks pretty interesting. It's got Michel Ancel and a developer called Wild Sheep behind it. In this one you play a shaman who can take control of any animal, you're on some sort of shaman-y quest, and the most dangerous enemies in the game are other humans. Open world, of course.

Between this, Horizon: Zero Dawn and Far Cry Primal there are a lot of open world hunter-gatherer type games coming up next year.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:14 pm        Reply with quote

I was gonna post the new David Cage opus but Dracko beat me to it (of course)

Instead I will ask once more when we're going to record an MST3K-style LP/commentary for one of these things
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Dracko wrote:
Who wants a new David Cage turd, now featuring by far the most turgid, artless, thoughtless, dishonest current sci-fi trope this side of YA dystopias?

Also the trailer is such an onslaught of cliches that I literally can't tell what specifically you're referring to
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For how laughably bad everything he does is, now I think I'm getting annoyed at how he keeps trying to portray AMERICA.
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