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So how many of these indies turned out Great?

 
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Toptube
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:34 am        Reply with quote

The Swapper gets my full endorsement.
http://forums.selectbutton.net/viewtopic.php?t=41337&highlight=

The only other thing on that list that I played was Anti-Chamber. Which despite looking cool, I sort of had to force myself to sit down and play. Which is to say, sometimes I'm not in the mood for X type of game. Once I did get into it, I was happy. It's pretty unique and is great at what it's doing.
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Toptube
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:42 am        Reply with quote

Excuse me while I be a fanboy for a minute.

Ronnoc wrote:
The Swapper....bad the same way Portal 2 is bad in that there's not puzzles, there's 'do everything you can with what you've unlocked currently

eh? did you play the whole thing? Because there's....one core mechanic and nothing else. There's no unlocking abilities or picking up new tools along the way. Like the First Portal, the game simply slowly forces you to figure out what is possible. And like the first Portal, the game ends before the mechanics are overused!



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neither of them are very charming.....The Swapper is a game in which you can solve puzzles before you get to them by going 'what kind of puzzles could you make with this ability?

you could say the same about most puzzle games that ride on flexing minimal mechanics. So what?

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That + the slow walking speed made it an effortless glide of ugly graphics.


A. The walking speed was fine and was probably deliberately slower than other games, to emphasize use of the core mechanic.

B. I'll raise my hand in contrast and say the graphics and presentation were amazingly atmospheric, and gave a very good sense of place. Plus points for the fact that all the main parts were hand crafted and/or made from "found" items.

It's fine if you didn't like it. But I think it is a bit naive to dismiss it as an ugly slog. There are FAR more ugly and uninspired looking games released any given month.

I mean, Portal did all the same things you just talked about and I bet you loved it. If you didn't, many did. I certainly did. The Swapper is every bit as good as Portal, without feeling like a Portal ripoff while playing it. I think that's awesome.
The story is fresh, the presentation is more than fresh, it is damn near unique. and the gameplay is fresh. And there's a few lingering expositional, contemplative moments that really drive it all in deep.
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