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diplo



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:42 pm    Post subject: God damn how the hell can anyone play these games    Reply with quote



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Cat to flop in the field: what the hell, is that dash a glitch
Cat to flop in the field: why do the goons even try
finaru bara: i dont think they are
Cat to flop in the field: how on earth is this challenge mode
Cat to flop in the field: he just thinks crowds to death
Cat to flop in the field: how could anyone lose
Cat to flop in the field: i'm sad that people made music for this
Cat to flop in the field: it probably made them hate music
finaru bara: i like how there's a button prompt to jump down
finaru bara: only mechanic taken from god hand
Cat to flop in the field: "YAHOO" - goon, 2 seconds before exploding
Cat to flop in the field: he really thought he was gonna have a good time
Cat to flop in the field: he can god dash everywhere but has to climb up a caged wall
Cat to flop in the field: all of the goons have health bars even though they all die immediately
Cat to flop in the field: he killed a guy who died in 3 seconds instead of 2 and he left behind two floating baguettes
Cat to flop in the field: that's how you know he was a powerful foe
Cat to flop in the field: i can't get over this dash
Cat to flop in the field: it's just his immobile body slamming forward at the speed of god
finaru bara: gets grabbed by juda, then kills juda in one hit
Cat to flop in the field: legendary conflict
Cat to flop in the field: THIS DASH
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:22 pm        Reply with quote

could vaguely see the appeal if this was time attack but otherwise
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Dark Age Iron Savior
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:37 pm        Reply with quote

ge, ge, gegege no ge
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:49 am        Reply with quote

level up to not play
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:34 am        Reply with quote

CubaLibre wrote:
level up to not play


every design document in the last six years
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:10 am        Reply with quote

And the first one was so cool, too...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:17 am        Reply with quote

Man all they need to do is make it like bowling and it'd suddenly be awesome.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:15 pm        Reply with quote

i am playing dynasty warriors right now
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diplo



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:27 pm        Reply with quote

Kinto wrote:
Man all they need to do is make it like bowling and it'd suddenly be awesome.


Possible with Mr. Heart. Unsurprisingly, it does not suddenly become awesome.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:03 pm        Reply with quote

Ahh that's not like bowling, it's more like mowing the lawn. Bowling involves hitting the foremost pins of a groups at a particular angle. Well, and it has consequences if you miss.

Okay yeah this can't ever be good.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:01 am        Reply with quote

consequences in warriors games are usually done pretty badly too.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:56 am        Reply with quote

The Last Battle: Warriors
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:54 am        Reply with quote

enemies come in crowds, enemies die in crowds. if one attack does not kill the whole crowd, than it were actually two crowds standing too close.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:19 am        Reply with quote

Also keep in mind that Fist of the North Star Warriors 2 is a bad game even by musou standards.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 12:57 pm        Reply with quote

alort of numbers and they all go up :)
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:36 pm        Reply with quote

i am disappointed by this news, as the first hokuto musou is really good ;_;
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:15 pm        Reply with quote

As a result of this thread I have ordered both games on Amazon.

HNK is a great thing and Last Battle is a sublime kind of awful, I'm sure I can get some value out of the latest version.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:01 pm        Reply with quote

http://youtu.be/39-v-j9DlCw?t=5m12s
bad dub is half the fun of any musou game.




And since we're at it: Bad LP-dub sucks, doesn't matter which language, game or genre we're talking about. Why isn't there a Shut up button where you can silence the witty commentary that, too often, isn't that witty at all…
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:18 pm        Reply with quote

gironika i'm sorry D:

i tired to do subtitles i really did but everyone told me to stop and do commentary instead
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:37 pm        Reply with quote

You do a good job Cuba.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:04 am        Reply with quote

i wasn't fishing for compliments, honest.

let's go back to talking about how shitty musou games aree
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:16 am        Reply with quote

I actually feel pretty upset that there is only one 2D musou game (Dynasty Warriors Advance), and it kind of/really sucks. I guess I could get the actual experience I wanted from it in one of the more proper musous, but somehow that feels like the wrong answer. But there is no right answer.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:28 am        Reply with quote

Important: do any of these HnK games feature Boogal as an enemy?
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diplo



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:42 am        Reply with quote



Holy cow this is embarrassing
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:32 am        Reply with quote

No that's exactly how it went in the manga. Kenshiro is just that smart and strong.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:35 pm        Reply with quote

CubaLibre wrote:
gironika i'm sorry D:

i tired to do subtitles i really did but everyone told me to stop and do commentary instead

ah, never mind my ramblings. I have a horrible taste when it comes to cars, women, movies and music (I mean, can you listen to that? I can, and do!), so I should be the last to be taken serious here. Don't take it to heart! The LPs I really liked are some of the first few Zelda Game Grump-episodes and the Conker-Dev one, so … yeah.

Just me rambling!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:16 pm        Reply with quote

Man I hate musou games
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Bingle



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:04 pm        Reply with quote

What's the best musou game that isn't basara
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:26 pm        Reply with quote

the first fist of the north star one
dynasty warriors gundam 3
demon chaos

not necessarily in that order
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:13 am        Reply with quote

Man I don't know if I'd include Gundam 3 and Demon Chaos on that list but to each their own! Fist of the North Star 1 is ace though. I'd say One Piece Musou 2 is pretty good too (the first game is fairly interesting in its own ways but on the whole probably not an overall good game due to that game's structure). People seem to like Samurai Warriors but I haven't played any of them.


Overall though the musou genre is in vogue for cheap franchise tie-in games because it's easy to make a game where you just run around beating up enemies until the level says it's over (I'm looking at you Kamen Rider Battride War).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:31 am        Reply with quote

gundam musou 3 was good times yeah
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:56 am        Reply with quote

is there a list somewhere of games which are widely considered musou-derivatives but are not actually related to the KOEI meta-franchise?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:18 am        Reply with quote

That sounds like a list I'd have fun making on a day off. I'll let you know if I get consumed with a fit of madness.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:20 am        Reply with quote

i want to play a musou game as jushin thunder liger w/ tiger mask

it is my truest dream
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:14 pm        Reply with quote

i'm surprised there hasn't been warhammer or soul calibur musous yet.

i think demon chaos is worth playing just for the insane spectacle of it.

let's start a non-koei non-basara musou list~

oneechanbara (series)
demon chaos
ninety nine nights (series)
drakengard (series)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:43 pm        Reply with quote

Maybe the original Xbox Kingdom Under Fire games count? They have actual strategic elements, though, and your character isn't as good at cleaving through crowds as a true Musou hero would be.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:47 pm        Reply with quote

the later kingdom under fire circle of doom is pretty musou too, since it retains crowd cramming
kamen rider battride proves there's actual subtlety in the musou series that makes it less terrible than it could be
then there's saint seiya senki, and gundam breaker and castlevania curse of darkness which uses dynasty warrior's combat system, but actually manages to remove more depth from the combat
koei has some non-franchise musou titles too: mystic heroes, trinity: souls of zill o’ll, and crimson sea (maybe)
star wars battlefront and lotr conquest and tangentially related, being the western cousins of musou

then ofc there's spartan total warrior which is what musou games should aspire to be
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:53 pm        Reply with quote

Loki Laufeyson wrote:
oneechanbara (series)
demon chaos
ninety nine nights (series)
drakengard (series)

man, I own the first drakengard and demon chaos already and always wanted to check out NNN. I've loved Gundasty Warriors 1 and played lots of DW4, and I'll get Drakengard 3 when it comes out. So! I've realized that I am actually liking this kind of game more than I was aware of!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:14 pm        Reply with quote

Don't you guys dare compare Kingdom Under Fire to this shit. It's an actual Good Game.

How hyped are we for its latest outing? They've been working on it for... what now? Between Shenmue and Duke Nukem Forever years now, right?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:33 am        Reply with quote

Bingle wrote:
star wars battlefront and lotr conquest and tangentially related, being the western cousins of musou

i wouldn't say battlefront has much to do with musou. it's a multiplayer fps and an obvious battlefield clone.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:36 am        Reply with quote

the western cousin to musou is the moba

which begs the question, what is GG2 Overture then
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