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misadventurous

Joined: 29 Nov 2012 Location: witch city
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:38 am |
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| I hated the first Dark Souls ... I have spent between 300 and 400 hours playing it |
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Rei sexy mf'er
Joined: 12 Sep 2011
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:41 am |
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Rei sexy mf'er
Joined: 12 Sep 2011
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:10 am |
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Broco

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Headquarters
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:21 am |
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| Rei wrote: |
| Also, if Kafka's The Trial only taught us about itself, why does everybody call everything Kafkaesque? |
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Rei sexy mf'er
Joined: 12 Sep 2011
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:45 am |
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misadventurous

Joined: 29 Nov 2012 Location: witch city
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:46 am |
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| everything he said could have been said about any videogame. are videogames the worst videogame of all time?? yes |
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analogos bravely default crying fairy

Joined: 10 Jun 2007
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:10 am |
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| well are they? |
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mauve

Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:35 am |
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videogames are dumb. it doesn't mean they can't be entertaining or enrichingly dumb. if you can't get something out of even the worst, most unlikable, least interesting game you play, then you probably should not be playing games.
so i'm experimenting with an axes dude, because i saw the beards and infantry armor and couldn't resist making a badass lumberjack
opinions on greataxes: plain old ordinary greataxe is a surprisingly solid weapon if somewhat boring in moveset, lion axe/bandit greataxe suck, gyrm greataxe has an absurdly high str requirement but its moveset is amazing. its damage is around the same as an ordinary greataxe, though, which is a thing.
poise damage is ridiculous, so is stamina damage apparently. I actually ran around the castle mashing r1 and guardbreaking the syan knights, which i have never managed to do before.
more axe reviews to come |
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Tulpa

Joined: 31 Jul 2008
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:14 am |
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Why the fuck should video games be teaching moments _________________
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OffalAl

Joined: 11 Jun 2009
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:33 am |
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as for the lava rocks in the iron keep, snagging chaos firestorm is some hilarious tony hawk business
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89ITJfqsWOM
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| mechanical improvements are so interesting that they are completely obfuscating the step back in level design |
i appreciate this sentiment, but am generally more interested in the latter than the former. having played a whole lot of Souls, i don't find PvP or even coop particularly compelling in this series. i'll jump on the pc bandwagon when the price comes down for some online funtimes, but playing Dark 2 as i did Demons and Dark 1 my first time through (by necessity), offline and in standard def that is, has been incredibly disappointing. _________________ ♟♟
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Tulpa

Joined: 31 Jul 2008
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:11 am |
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Like, that dude's sense of aesthetics is disgusting. A thing can only be worth experiencing if it imparts moral wisdom? Fuck him and fuck people that think like him. _________________
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Rud31 forum ruler of Iraq

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: SanAnTex
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Guillotine

Joined: 05 May 2008
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:33 am |
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| mauve wrote: |
| lion axe/bandit greataxe suck, |
power stanced bandit axe in the right hand gives straight sword moveset... even with ultra greatswords and other ridiculous weapons |
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Kinto
Joined: 16 Feb 2011 Location: LANDAN
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:24 pm |
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Fuck me, parrying just isn't a thing online. You literally can't react fast enough for the animation to start before lag tells you you've already been hit. Your only chance is a small shield and predicting attacks instead (while still needing impeccable timing!) _________________
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Kinto
Joined: 16 Feb 2011 Location: LANDAN
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:38 pm |
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BAHAHAHA okay yeah it's fine.
New meta: dark fog, panic into attacking, parry and riposte immediately, game over. _________________
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mauve

Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:42 pm |
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| Guillotine wrote: |
| power stanced bandit axe in the right hand gives straight sword moveset... even with ultra greatswords and other ridiculous weapons |
that's true of any short handle great axe, so you might as well pick one that actually doesn't have a 100+ AR deficit! though the main advantage is it's the one with the lowest str requiement, so.
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| Fuck me, parrying just isn't a thing online. You literally can't react fast enough for the animation to start before lag tells you you've already been hit. Your only chance is a small shield and predicting attacks instead (while still needing impeccable timing!) |
I am told that left-hand curved sword has the best parry in the game. (Apparently especially monastery scimitar? not sure I buy that but haven't tried it personally) _________________ twit |
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TXTSWORD

Joined: 25 Aug 2010
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:19 pm |
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I tried a parry for the first time ever last night online and landed it. Was really proud. Too bad I got steamrolled by the other gray phantom while trying to get the frontstab.
Trying to rebuild my PS3 character but better this time. Anyone have information on maximizing the effectiveness of acid surge? That's going to be my primary objective. Does increasing your pyro flame effectiveness matter? I'll probably get two slots of it, hexer's hood, and aim for the 43 attunement bonus casts. I'm also thinking the sword that launches movement slowing web things to hopefully be more successful. Flame +10, high int for flame bonus for the scaling on pyro flame, and the sinner's shackle things if those actually effect it. |
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Felix unofficial repository
Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: vancouver
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:38 pm |
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| mauve wrote: |
| Guillotine wrote: |
| power stanced bandit axe in the right hand gives straight sword moveset... even with ultra greatswords and other ridiculous weapons |
that's true of any short handle great axe, so you might as well pick one that actually doesn't have a 100+ AR deficit! though the main advantage is it's the one with the lowest str requiement, so.
| Kinto wrote: |
| Fuck me, parrying just isn't a thing online. You literally can't react fast enough for the animation to start before lag tells you you've already been hit. Your only chance is a small shield and predicting attacks instead (while still needing impeccable timing!) |
I am told that left-hand curved sword has the best parry in the game. (Apparently especially monastery scimitar? not sure I buy that but haven't tried it personally) |
yeah, if you're gonna dual wield in this game, one of the things you're dual wielding might as well be the warped sword |
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TXTSWORD

Joined: 25 Aug 2010
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:47 pm |
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Oh I'm dumb - I only need 32 to increase my acid surge casts. The break points depend on how many casts your spell starts with. I'll probably stop there because I don't need infinity attunement slots. I basically don't want to have much that's so good I'll fall back on it when acid surge isn't working lol. I want to be forced to break equipment.
Seriously any info on if acid surge's effectiveness is increased by anything at all would be excellent. Wish it scaled with poison bonus and pyro flame. Probbbb doesn't change at all ever. |
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Guillotine

Joined: 05 May 2008
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:54 pm |
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| mauve wrote: |
| Guillotine wrote: |
| power stanced bandit axe in the right hand gives straight sword moveset... even with ultra greatswords and other ridiculous weapons |
that's true of any short handle great axe, so you might as well pick one that actually doesn't have a 100+ AR deficit! though the main advantage is it's the one with the lowest str requiement, so.
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I just farmed me a Lion's and it's indeed quite nicer, are there more like this? Gyrm maybe? Don't have the str to check
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TXTSWORD

Joined: 25 Aug 2010
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:23 pm |
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| It seems like clouds are all static in their effectiveness? Why is the hex poison cloud so good and the pyro clouds still shit? Does From hate me, personally? |
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sponkmonkey

Joined: 24 May 2011 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:14 pm |
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Growing an egghead was definitely my favorite useless thing in Dark Souls and I'm really really disappointed they didn't expand on that concept. _________________
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diplo

Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Location: Brandy Brendo's bungalow
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:28 pm |
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| The phantom geometry that pops up in this game is maddening. Seems to usually happen in doors' frames. I was just returning to Tseldora to open the doors in the building leading to the spider den and got caught in the room with spider holes because a mystery forcefield was erected in the door's frame. Died as 500 spiders clumped up on my butt and I tried to roll out the way. |
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Toptube Anti-cabbage Party Candidate
Joined: 23 Apr 2007
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:04 am |
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| sponkmonkey wrote: |
| Growing an egghead was definitely my favorite useless thing in Dark Souls and I'm really really disappointed they didn't expand on that concept. |
I was really disappointed that using the egghead's attack which replaced the forward kick; didn't infect other players in PVP. |
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mauve

Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:31 pm |
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so i may have inadvertently made axe dude into the most metal character i could have created
fire-infused gyrm axe with flame weapon has been hitting other players for 650-700 every hit. off-hand avelyn for ranged attackers and people who like their estus too much.
lion warrior cape so he's bare-chested, havel boots for poise and metal, bone king crown because it seems appropriate to give him some horns, ring of giants +2 for poise
i've been going to invade people and have had a 100% win rate so far, including one poor guy where i offed three summoned phantoms in a row before i finally got him down. duels have not gone as well but damn.
this is what i wish brutal legend really was
blood for the metal gods |
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TXTSWORD

Joined: 25 Aug 2010
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:02 am |
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Anyone with cool info feel free to chime in at any time re: acid surge scaling at all with anything. I really want to know and can't find any reliable info.
I'm stacking 3 acid surges with 32 attunement for a total of 9 casts. Should be more than adequate to break some shit if I can manage to spam it without getting murdered. All I know I'd at least some third dragonses and katanas are getting broked. (As a reminder I'll be attempting to use the spider fang's r2 slowing attack to make this more plausible)
Ideally I just want to make a video compilation of breaking shit and then people's equip being worthless. |
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sponkmonkey

Joined: 24 May 2011 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:12 am |
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You're doing God's work. _________________
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mauve

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TXTSWORD

Joined: 25 Aug 2010
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:58 am |
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Well then I don't have to be upset about santier's true form being unbreakable I guess.
Wow, what I learned from that video is I need to have way too much fucking health - which is not the case because I plan to stop at 150 |
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Felix unofficial repository
Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: vancouver
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:22 am |
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so it took me about this long to realize that the casting speed ring +2 you get from skeleton lords plus is way way better than cloranthy in this game
that + 3DR (which is no RFP but still very worth it) + giants 1 or 2 + covenant or life protection is pretty much where it's at |
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TXTSWORD

Joined: 25 Aug 2010
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:33 am |
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| Stone ring is pretty essential to me. |
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diplo

Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Location: Brandy Brendo's bungalow
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:57 am |
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Generally speaking I think the best rings to use are Ring of Blades, a Dragon Ring, Clear Bluestone Ring (provided you're using any kind of magic), and a toss-up for the third; maybe the Bracing Knuckle Ring, if you're not focusing on PvP.
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| so it took me about this long to realize that the casting speed ring +2 you get from skeleton lords plus is way way better than cloranthy in this game |
Check out the info dump I posted on the last page. |
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mauve

Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:35 am |
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i dunno, i think it's possible that guy has 99 vit and like 40 att or something, and not much of anything else! his roll is pretty short for such light equipment. sl150 is entirely possible _________________ twit |
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Joachim

Joined: 19 Mar 2010
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:08 am |
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I always use the Ring of Blades +1, Third Dragon Ring, Ring of Life Protection and either; Covetous Silver Serpent Ring +1 or Life Ring +2. _________________
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mauve

Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:49 am |
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axe dude is using third dragon ring, ring of giants +2, cloranthy +1, and the fourth slot is kind of a freebie that's ring of blades +1 or gold covetous +1 when i have nothing else. (need to get them all to +2...) stopped using ring of life protection entirely because, honestly, i don't care anymore, death is no longer anything to fear
stamina recovery exists to reduce downtime in ds2, not to keep you attacking like in ds1. this character is very bursty so he'll burn a large chunk of his bar and then back off instead of small continuous pokes, so cloranthy's useful. if he were keeping pressure on with minor pokes, it'd be less useful.
also yeah felix, that cast speed ring may be one of the best rings in the game if you use a caster. it's probably worthwhile to burn an ascetic to get it in NG ASAP! _________________ twit |
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Guillotine

Joined: 05 May 2008
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:14 am |
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| chloranty+2 is quite a bit nicer than 8.5% for sure, just deplete your stamina and put it on/off to check yourself |
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TXTSWORD

Joined: 25 Aug 2010
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:51 pm |
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Why is no one saying stone ring. Are you all using ultra super great hammers two-handed or something? I tend to use pretty flimsy weapons like thrusting swords so I find stone ring is an absolute must.
Oh p.S. I want to put some music to this video and I'm thinking linkin park one step closer to the edge and is there a limp bizkit song called break stuff or something because that. |
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mauve

Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:45 pm |
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if you use anything less than a greatsword, yeah stone ring is godlike.
i use greatswords or larger pretty much exclusively. not a fan of the smaller weapons this go around. _________________ twit |
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misadventurous

Joined: 29 Nov 2012 Location: witch city
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:25 pm |
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| i used stone ring + old leo ring + 2h fire longsword thrusts for a lot of the game, it rocked face |
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another god
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:04 pm |
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Does Old Leo ring increase all kinds of pointy damage or just backstabs/counters?
Also, 2Hing regularly 1H weapons is nice for the faster parry. _________________ interdimensional |
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Broco

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Headquarters
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:04 pm |
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| Rei wrote: |
Hm, can't see what you're implying there.
Are you agreeing and saying something cool (that was a cool quote-fix, BTW) or thinking your modification of my quote is a QED for my bad logic?
Kafka teaches you something in a way you couldn't maybe quite see before; we can describe it in detail, but to refer to it in totality is to call it "Kafkaesque". It's about convenience, right?
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I don't 100% agree or disagree, your comment just reminded me of Kafka because his books are extremely self-obsessed and inward-looking at the same time as alluding to/symbolizing a vast amount of the world.
Dark Souls is not exactly doing the same thing though, I'd say it more provides a stage for players to express their human nature in a wide variety of ways. It's like a vast puppet theatre where each member of the audience can control one puppet, and swap out their costumes to play a friendly white phantom puppet or a mean invader one and create different stories that way. |
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