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CONSUME_PRODUCTS
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 Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:41 pm |
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| remote wrote: |
this is definitely a convergence of demon's and dark |
that's... exactly what I wanted from this |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:58 pm |
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yo are there any good dex weapons, seems like str gets all the variety so far
(have the same stat allocation dilemma as felix, it's a huge comfort you can re-allocate) |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:21 pm |
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| might try a quality build with the sun sword #whoa |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:59 pm |
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quality build + sun sword
good times, good times |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:04 pm |
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| is ADP worth anything? |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:56 pm |
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quality build seems a bit cack in this one, even with A/A scaling
i think they're steering people toward more versatile builds or something?
| Felix wrote: |
| overall, I'd say that you'd be wrong to call it more than marginally worse than the prior game(s), but I'm also not necessarily inclined to call it better. Its definitely still better than almost everything else that isn't Dark Souls. |
agreed |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:05 am |
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| remote wrote: |
| CONSUME_PRODUCTS wrote: |
quality build seems a bit cack in this one, even with A/A scaling
i think they're steering people toward more versatile builds or |
huh, i still feel like my halberd and sun sword are great with a quality build for now. honestly dunno what else i'd do with this character unless i find a strength weapon i want to restat for |
yeah I'm starting to feel them (we have the same weapons whoa) but especially early on a friend with a purely STR build and equivalent mace was totally outperforming me vs a lot of the (armoured) early game stuff, some vagrant story weapon types shit
just read you can skip getting the four great boss souls if you have a soul memory of over 1mil, seems interesting... |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:09 pm |
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| strike str weapons are easy mode |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:12 am |
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| the fuck is that?! |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:05 pm |
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| mauve wrote: |
sun sword better be pretty godlike for how much effort it is to get the medals for it
it looks like a generic quality build weapon
gonna get uberspear and somehow find the faith to use it because i'm kind of insane |
i have 40/40 str/dex with sun sword +10 and it's ok but absolutely not worth 80 levels (i get better damage output with pure str weapons with the same build) |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:20 pm |
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| Just got the Crypt Blacksword, thinking about a respec... |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:29 am |
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dark crypt blacksword!!!!
this build is a wip, needs more attunement and that last point of faith but if you stick dark weapon on there it Fucks Shit Up |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:44 pm |
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after i took that photo, I put another point into faith and went from 755 attack to 763
#whoa dark scaling |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:48 pm |
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| Felix wrote: |
| there's so little incentive to go into NG+ in this game when you can just bonfire ascetic different areas as you like |
I think it resets soul memory |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:19 pm |
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really enjoying this build, one-shotting rat covenant kids as a gray spirit
just concerned re: soul memory, might have to start ng+ as the available playerbase has clearly thinned a bit |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:25 am |
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| using a mace IS prostrats! |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:51 am |
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dex/quality builds appear to be bad so far
i managed to get all the way through the pve with sunsword +10 & 40/40 str/dex, but pure str weapons and this ridiculous, ridiculous crypt blacksword hex build make me feel dumb for enduring that
club and mace are just so good early on, and into the endgame really
even at A/S scaling, a point in str is worth more than a point in dex |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:28 am |
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| TXTSWORD wrote: |
The things you're saying about dex right now are breaking my heart, consume. Also does "quality build" mean high dex or what? You guys have been throwing that around but it's really foreign to me. |
quality = weapons that scale to both str/dex well (comes from the demon's souls upgrade path names)
best example is probably the plain halberd in the last game
my pvp experience here is mostly hanging around belfry luna and traumatising gray spirits with stunlock into 1k+ damage but yeah uh shieldless seems viable
re: dex weapons try chaos blade? |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:20 am |
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| mauve wrote: |
basically the only people who will be loaded with invasion items are successful invaders.
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you can buy unlimited invasion items in ng+ |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:39 pm |
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| Felix wrote: |
int and faith don't increase damage or spell prereqs much between 20 and 30 but there are a huge number of interesting high-level spells so 20 becomes the "stop here" sign for mostly melee builds |
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i'm primarily melee with 20 in str, whatever warrior starts with for dex & 30/30 faith/int and damage is pretty obscene
bet it gets nerfed though :/ |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:33 pm |
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I ended up switching from quality to a hex / crypt blacksword to a HUGE INT moonlight greatsword build over the course of NG & NG+ and uh the int build is big fun & 2 casts of soul geyser offing the later bosses even on NG+ feels wonderfully broken
Going to take a break now though
& Demon's is still the best |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:06 pm |
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| a pair of gators wrote: |
also, i feel like int builds being toned down is mostly to make it a compliment to normal stuff instead of what it is in the other 2 games: point your character at the boss and press the button until they die. sorceries are now lower power compared to hexes, but generally have more casts, only use up one slot, etc.
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int really comes back for the final third, moonlight greatsword is still great & soul geyser (1 cast, 2 with hexer's hood) will 1/2-shot the vast majority of the bosses well into ng+
seems the approach to balance here was 'make the mlgs ng+/ascetics only & the decent catalysts rare drops/hidden in endgame areas' |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:21 pm |
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| since the new patch nerfs were announced pretty much everyone on pvp @ SL150 is running chaos blade hex builds =( |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:33 pm |
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depends on your stats
i think lightning is basically a faith scale? |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:51 pm |
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| scratchmonkey wrote: |
Also, as a wanky design commentary, Dark Souls 2 seems to fall into a similar "weird sequel" category in the vein of Castlevania II and Zelda II on the NES. |
yeah
which if anything makes me really excited for the next one |
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