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[rye]

I produced the symbol of the king and opened the big doors in the forest of giants's castle.

can't really seem to figure out what to do next to advance in the area. no secret doors, and the giant with pixie dust makes me think i should be doing something with it, but Alas, nothing happened.

any hints?
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[Kinto]

You're missing an item, come back later.

Hey, visited the shaded woods lately?
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[rye]

thanks, kinto!


also, sorry everybody. i think all these threads are blending together for me now.
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[Broco]

[Guillotine]

I just noticed how much the Royal Soldier armour is similar to Paladin Leeroy's. Outside of differences in the chest piece, the other 3 parts have a very similar design. Iirc the armour description implied that Leeroy was not originary of Lordran... Doesn't necessarily mean Drangleic is not Lordran since they might have just conquered it, but it looks pretty blatant to me now.

[Broco]

I agree about the similarity: http://darksouls.wikidot.com/paladin-set http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Royal+Soldier+Set . The more relevant part of the description is that Paladin Leeroy is a Way of White member devoted to fighting the undead. I'd read the connection as that Vendrick's forces are members of the Way of White and they purged Lordran of the remaining undead, then established a kingdom. It makes sense as these Way of White clerics were the only non-undead humans voluntarily going to Lordran. Keep in mind that in the timeframe of the first Dark Souls, no humans were really native to Lordran as it was populated by gods, then used as a dumping ground for undead imported from elsewhere.

[Felix]

yeah, all three King's doors stood out for me big time so I knew exactly where to go once I got the ring, but the funny thing was that I instinctively (or incidentally) visited them in exactly the right order for plot progression after that. Good design, maybe!

[diplo]

Trying to figure out whose body that is in the place with Vendrick.

[Broco]

Why not the obvious answer of Vendrick? I feel the Souls games have well-established by now the idea that bosses are not really the original person but some larger-than-life phantom representation of them (see e.g. the true Sif found in the abyss).

[analogos]

i remember it just seemingly being vendrick's clothes, no body.

[diplo]

My assumption was that the person had been beheaded.

oops? But that makes sense, considering the size of the clothing.

[mauve]

yeah that's not a body it's just a pile of his clothes. iirc they even match up to the king's armor you can find elsewhere.
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[Broco]

[cavefish]

[Rud31]

[Felix]

yeah, I like your interpretation too, even where the game does support a more literal one

[another god]

What do you guys think of Dark Souls 2's theme of repetition?
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interdimensional

[mauve]

Beare
Seek
Seek
Lest
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twit

[diplo]

I don't see what's stopping anyone from seeing Dark Souls 2 as just one of many future histories, although it is too bad that they codified gender. I've only ever played as a woman!

What are people saying about the giants' relation to those in Dark Souls? I'm confused by the faces of those you find at the end of the memories. They look different from the others with holes in their heads. Could the holeheads be giants that've somehow been affected by Vendrick?

[parker]

I thought the giants looked the same in the flashbacks
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[Talbain]

[bza]

Anyone else get the feeling the Rotten used to be Pharros? I was thinking maybe he got tossed under Majula after becoming hollow and spent god knows how long down there making statues and traps before eventually finding Nito's soul and amassing all the other corpses and garbage thrown down there during the undead curse's time. When you enter the fight he's trying to put together another statue and failing, and when you cut off his arm you get... a lockstone.
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[Felix]

good one. makes perfect sense.

[mauve]

yeah i've heard the pharros = rotten theory thrown about for awhile now, actually. it's reasonable enough.

i've heard that if you beat up the statues in his room he freaks out and runs over to them, but i haven't tried it personally.

if you fight him, there's one body on his shoulder that is sort of directing the main body. kinda hard to notice if you're not specifically looking for it though.
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[diplo]

[scratchmonkey]

Apparently one of the giants in the same memory of the Giant Lord has a non-hole-face, with a mouth and teeth and all. I've seen screenshots of it, never seen it myself though.

Ah, there it is:

http://imgur.com/OkrFSV8

[Joachim]

[mauve]

tbh you don't really find out if you don't go looking anyway. you're just something in a huge pile of rags. and i'm okay with that considering that goes away in the first 5 minutes of the game, never to be seen again.

although i actually like the way that clothing looks, i think it's pretty sweet
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[diplo]