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tiburon

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Glam Grimfire

Joined: 16 Dec 2011 Location: the funky western civilization
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 11:39 pm |
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can't wait for ads before and during every stream _________________
##SKELETON PARTY (new article as of 04/26/14)Grim |
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notbov

Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 11:50 pm |
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| Glam Grimfire wrote: |
| can't wait for ads before and during every stream |
this already happens if you're not running an adblock
I hear hitbox is a thing _________________
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notbov

Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 11:54 pm |
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no, wait, I'm doing this wrong
YouTube: ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つGIVE LIVESTREAMING༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ _________________
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tiburon

Joined: 26 Sep 2012
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 11:58 pm |
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hitbox's servers aren't prepared for anything close to twitch's userbase, their infrastructure is years behind _________________ stream - steam - tweets
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tiburon

Joined: 26 Sep 2012
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 12:00 am |
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Seriously though this should be setting off massive anti-trust alarm bells
I have seen the future and it is Google _________________ stream - steam - tweets
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mauve

Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 12:03 am |
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it's only a rumor at this stage. they're apparently in talks but nothing actually confirmed yet.
personal opinion: don't make me use or link to google plus and i'm okay with it. so odds are i won't be okay with whatever it is they do because they just love getting g+ in everything. (honestly if google would both not mandate g+ and also localize the effects of infractions to their respective services, i'd be a-okay using everything. but that would make sense and be friendly.)
at the very least it would mean twitch could hire a real support staff instead of random people going around shutting down channels on a whim... instead we just get contentid killing everything. and horrible 'flat' page design. hooray.
hitbox is a pretty nice service but yeah it couldn't handle a tiny fraction of twitch's load. |
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notbov

Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 12:12 am |
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| Reed wrote: |
Seriously though this should be setting off massive anti-trust alarm bells
I have seen the future and it is Google |
it's not anti-trust because there's already other established services with a large professional clientbase and custom solutions galore
YouTube won't usurp those _________________
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CONSUME_PRODUCTS

Joined: 29 Jan 2012
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 12:25 am |
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| tech bubble gonna burst |
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tiburon

Joined: 26 Sep 2012
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 12:28 am |
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how long until real names on twitch
twitch chat + youtube comments = the primordial soup of the next lifeform to rule this planet _________________ stream - steam - tweets
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CONSUME_PRODUCTS

Joined: 29 Jan 2012
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 12:43 am |
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real talk ~2/3 years ago people would be thrilled about this
i used to think that even if their software & services were largely junk google had expertly cultivated the """tech press""" / nerd groupthink that they were the defenders of ~freedom~, some kind of non-profit eff-like fighting the evil apple walled garden that threatened to envelope everything; nerds would roll their eyes at "you're not the customer, you're the product being sold" & eagerly sign up for their next me-too
but lol at how quickly they burnt that goodwill, just a fluke i guess |
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MattCD42

Joined: 13 Sep 2011 Location: Under the rock
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 12:50 am |
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I can't imagine a new site not starting up if this goes past a rumor. _________________ Steam: Godamn_Milkman |
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mauve

Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 12:59 am |
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hey now, i've been uncomfortable with google stuff for at least 5 years! _________________ twit |
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notbov

Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 1:07 am |
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maybe YouTube can finally unlock the secrets of 60 fps video
oh, who the fuck am I kidding
| MattCD42 wrote: |
| I can't imagine a new site not starting up if this goes past a rumor. |
there's already new sites for game streaming, but people stay at Twitch because the audience is there and they don't flake on payments (which is what supposedly helped kill own3d).
hey, who knows, maybe Nico will try the English-speaking market again or Ustream will be a place for something other than people fucking in front of their PS4s. _________________
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mauve

Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 1:11 am |
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nico live streaming is not going to win any friends over here unless they seriously change their model.
how it works:
- you need premium to stream at all.
- if you want to stream in larger than 30 minute chunks, you need to pay for it if it's at prime time.
- same goes for having quality bit rate.
- once viewers exceeds a certain level, non-premium viewers are automatically kicked out.
ha ha ha _________________ twit |
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notbov

Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 1:21 am |
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I know of all of nico's wackiness, I paid the princely sum of 75 cents for premium on their failed English thing so I could fail to get into streams on my Vita
nothing says "Worth it" like watching Russian state news and Japanese playing LoL at work _________________
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Drem

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: The Planet Bookshelves
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 1:37 am |
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| Google has started backing down from G+, consequently causing G+'s daddy to leave company, so I think we can possibly hold off our fears of forced G+ integration for the moment. I hope this leads to Twitch getting a competent and reliable infrastructure and possibly someday staff who don't come off as amateurs. I do wonder what this means for YouTube's LiveStreaming feature that hasn't gotten much publicity or emphasis from Google. |
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The Troops

Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Location: Providence
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 2:45 am |
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| Reed wrote: |
how long until real names on twitch
twitch chat + youtube comments = the primordial soup of the next lifeform to rule this planet |
i loled irl |
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Mikey

Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Location: endless backlog
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 2:47 pm |
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I could have sworn I heard the goog was killing off google plus
This was an irrelevant post |
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CONSUME_PRODUCTS

Joined: 29 Jan 2012
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 4:06 pm |
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that's mostly just conjecture cos gundotra left
they may kill off the fb clone aspect of plus but the one account sign-in across all their properties ain't going anywhere |
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ionustron
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 12:26 am |
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| Reed wrote: |
| hitbox's servers aren't prepared for anything close to twitch's userbase, their infrastructure is years behind |
Yeah the odd thing on my mind for the past day, for one of if not the largest streaming and esports game in town, 1b seems low. |
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CONSUME_PRODUCTS

Joined: 29 Jan 2012
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 4:55 pm |
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doesn't necessarily mean it can make money (as is anyway)
smart sale imo if it's real, get out now before the bubble bursts etc. |
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Take It Sleazy

Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 2:34 pm |
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| It looks like Nintendo will be requiring permission for you to play their games on Youtube so they can share the revenue. Hopefully this only effects people who want to make money off their videos. It would suck if this eventually meant people couldn't speedrun emulated Nintendo games on Twitch or had to follow some weird code of conduct to play Mario Party or whatever |
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schroeder

Joined: 06 Mar 2013 Location: Interior of mind n+1
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:52 am |
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| It's still theft even if you give it away after you steal it! All that gameplay belongs to Nintendo, you're just borrowing it. |
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diplo

Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Location: Brandy Brendo's bungalow
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 1:07 am |
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| It's interesting how bad Nintendo is at acknowledging that human beings living in the 21st century play their games. |
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schroeder

Joined: 06 Mar 2013 Location: Interior of mind n+1
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Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 1:15 am |
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| At least they're working to put a stop to that now. |
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tiburon

Joined: 26 Sep 2012
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:41 am |
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Hey so
http://blog.twitch.tv/2014/08/update-changes-to-vods-on-twitch/#comment-1530506795
http://blog.twitch.tv/2014/08/3136/
-twitch vods 'save forever' option removed permanently
-past broadcasts will be deleted after 14 days
-highlights restricted to 2 hours in length
-ContentID system enabled, will mute your vod if said vod contains flagged audio
-it will remain muted if you export to youtube
list of flagged audio includes: (all real examples)
-actual in-game audio (Mike Tyson Punch Out)
-as well as the radio in games like GTA
-as well as some dude singing a copyrighted song (honzogonzo)
-as well as indie musicians performing music they own the rights to (@zirconst)
-as well as Valve streaming the International (contains music from Dota)
-as well as Riot streaming the LCS (contains music from LoL)
-as well as Twitch streaming Twitch Weekly (???)
-if your vod is flagged in any section, the entire 30 minute section of video will be muted
popular speedrunners have already started moving to hitbox.tv, including adamak and peaches. 90% of adam's vods are now muted, because he plays GTA and the radio music is flagged under ContentID _________________ stream - steam - tweets

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tiburon

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CONSUME_PRODUCTS

Joined: 29 Jan 2012
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:16 pm |
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https://twitter.com/Ambler3/status/497147418170126336/photo/1
reminder that google employees believe themselves to be supreme beings dragged down by oppressive 'non-technical' rubes outside of the bay area & have unironically petitioned for eric schmidt to be installed as ceo of america |
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mauve

Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:07 pm |
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apparently a number of musicians that have specifically not registered their content with audible magic are getting their stuff flagged. most notably dannyb and zircon.
seems that anything submitted to soundcloud is automatically included in these claims.
i'd have a lot more respect for audio related copyright claims if every middleman involved wasn't essentially acting like a bunch of thugs |
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tiburon

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mauve

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Reed

Joined: 09 Aug 2014
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Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 11:25 pm |
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http://pastebin.com/zh3eD4Bn
I wrote a thing about my feelings on the changes and Twitch in general.
tl;dr i'm switching to hitbox for the near future and testing it out.
it's been great so far :) _________________ hi it's reed
this is where i stream now |
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The Blueberry Hill

Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Location: The otherwise central zone.
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:45 am |
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| tiburon you're Reed, right? You could ask an admin to change your old username if you want to. |
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Reed

Joined: 09 Aug 2014
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:48 am |
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thanks! i kind of like having both though. for right now anyway _________________ hi it's reed
this is where i stream now |
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Mikey

Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Location: endless backlog
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mauve

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notbov

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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:14 pm |
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well, that's a fun twist _________________
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Mikey

Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Location: endless backlog
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:19 pm |
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| I agree - I don't necessarily think Amazon is "better" by any stretch of the word but this strikes me as more interesting, if that makes sense. |
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Felix unofficial repository
Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: vancouver
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:20 pm |
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| Amazon is way, way worse than Google IMO in terms of human costs but kind of maybe less bad in this instance in terms of tech politics |
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MattCD42

Joined: 13 Sep 2011 Location: Under the rock
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:27 am |
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I don't get how Twitch does anything for amazon? Maybe it's an ad space thing? If someone gets the link besides it just being an acquisition fill me in. _________________ Steam: Godamn_Milkman |
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