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The God Of Poverty
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 Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:33 pm |
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| CONSUME_PRODUCTS wrote: |
| luvcraft wrote: |
| "Most Embarrassing Game of E3" goes to Senran Kagura, a game about busty girls punching each others' clothes off until they're wearing panties and band-aids on their nipples. |
one of those games got a retail 3ds release here, this is the box:
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A game about Frussian - wow! |
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Red_venom
Joined: 06 Dec 2006
Location: California
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:32 pm |
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| the line was too long for me to wait and see whatever they were showing of bloodborne but i think it looks cool aesthetically |
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EU03
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:41 pm |
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1. what about Akiba's Trip, a game about stripping people to see of they're vampires
2. I already don't get many beat em ups, don't shame me into not buying this one |
What Persona said was most of it. The game seems to be about how much the devs wanted to recreate all of Akihabara with licensing hundreds of brands. They even have these NPCs based off a real-life stereotype of art saleswomen in Japan called artliens who coerce you into buying art for extravagant prices, down to the long-winded conversation paths and you losing hundreds of dollars.
The combat seems OK, if not pretty simple. You scan for vampires with your camera and confront them. You beat on them (head, torso, pants) until they're weakened enough to strip them off. Under certain conditions, you can do combo stripping off all their parts and even to other combatants. Parts can be equipped, and there's the usual crafting system and yadda-yadda. Customization even goes down to your walk cycle where you could walk like a drunkard or a zombie.
I was cited that the game could be finished in about five hours, but each NPC partner has two different endings.
At first glance, the game looked pretty crap. After playing it, it still feels kinda meh, but there's a lot of that weird charm in it. I do feel compelled to play it, but maybe if it goes on sale.
I played Senran Kagura Dekamori/Bon Appetit, too. I was just playing songs on hard, and the attendant was kind of blown away that I was the only one she saw for most of the con that was actually competent at rhythm games. Shinovi Versus was an alright game to mash on mindlessly, but Dekamori doesn't feel like it has any substance outside of even more gratuitous fan service.
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notbov
Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:55 pm |
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I wasn't asking about Akiba's Trip, but rather trying to defend SK by throwing AT in front of it as an embarrassing game
I've heard lots of good things about SV's versus mode from importers, so I'm kinda confident it'll be a solid if mindless game. Dekamori though, yeah, it looked kinda meh from its first gameplay trailers
and now that I've seen a 60 fps video of Splatoon, I want this game bad. I'm kind of amazed that I'm living in a world where Nintendo has made the shooter I want to play most, even if only by virtue of not being Military Shootman #81.
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mauve
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EU03
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:06 pm |
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| notbov wrote: |
I wasn't asking about Akiba's Trip, but rather trying to defend SK by throwing AT in front of it as an embarrassing game
I've heard lots of good things about SV's versus mode from importers, so I'm kinda confident it'll be a solid if mindless game. Dekamori though, yeah, it looked kinda meh from its first gameplay trailers |
Oops, sorry about the mis-read.
I actually played a good chunk of Shinovi Versus before putting it down. It's surprisingly not-horrible, but the loading times are pretty damn lengthy. It has to load between even talking head scenes, and I almost fell asleep a few times while playing.
I still would probably play Akiba's Trip in public than Senran Kagura, but there's not much of a difference there!
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notbov
Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:48 pm |
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okay, so E3 is now over and the afterglow is starting to fade. it's time to ask that dumb and meaningless question: who won this industry trade show designed to help retailers order stock
the vibe I'm getting from this thread is that From, No Man's Sky and Nintendo made out pretty well, but I could be wrong
the real winner here is obvious though: 2015.
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Guillotine
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:19 pm |
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http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/13/5807416/bloodborne-video-ps4-from-software-project-beast
bloodborne gameplay trailer. welcome back miyazaki~
of note:
- no shields!
- power stance seems to be much more widely used, including blocking (maybe full l1/l2/r1/r2 replacement this time)
- "oh hey we actually have the hardware to do some really terrifying monsters now, let's get to it"
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Did I just see authentic Russian propaganda in the spot before the trailer? Didn't watch all of it but it sure didn't look like it was for a videogame? |
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Felix
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:10 pm |
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things I'm only just seeing now that the smoke is clearing:
- there's going to be a WiiU sequel to Canvas Curse
- the Skulls of the Shogun guys are making some kind of Troilus and Cressida meet Call of Duty game
- the Witness is probably delayed to early 2015 (good thing Jon Blow has enough money!)
but yeah, otherwise: still ambivalent on Destiny and MGSV, still glad both are getting PS3 releases to lower the bar to entry, Bloodborne currently seems to be the only thing that'll compel me to buy a PS4, cautiously optimistic about No Man's Sky, Splatoon, Xenoblade (which is also now 2015), and, of all fucking things, Zelda
new Mirror's Edge already looks even more overcooked than the original which is a shame (as does pretty much all of Microsoft's shit, if anything more than before). and anything new from Itagaki / Platinum doesn't really seem like a big deal, though it'll probably all be decent. I really liked the first Magicka so I'm glad they made enough money to do a sequel, though I'm not sure what it'll add.
will probably play Grim Fandango remake since I never really got anywhere with the original and I've been having fun with Maniac Mansion and Loom lately
still generally looking more forward to Unsung Story / Duelyst / Chaos Reborn / Witcher 3 / Massive Chalice / Barkley 2 than any of those but who's counting |
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Talbain
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:30 pm |
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| Felix wrote: |
| Bloodborne currently seems to be the only thing that'll compel me to buy a PS4, cautiously optimistic about No Man's Sky, Splatoon, Xenoblade (which is also now 2015), and, of all fucking things, Zelda |
Yeah, this is pretty much my impression. Splatoon looks really good though. Strange that the Wii U is the console I'm most interested in at the moment.
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Felix
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:47 pm |
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| oh, and that Guardian of Light sequel could be great |
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CONSUME_PRODUCTS
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:22 pm |
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| so they're making two tomb raider games? a guardian of light sequel and that stieg larsson-esque horseshit? |
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Felix
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:42 pm |
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| yup |
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Wall of Beef
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:06 pm |
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Yeah, this is pretty much my impression. Splatoon looks really good though. Strange that the Wii U is the console I'm most interested in at the moment. |
Could be because its the console most interested in trying to make fun times?
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Felix
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:03 am |
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| I'm kind of exasperated by people constantly wanting to praise Nintendo for that, though, particularly given the last almost-decade. Just because their software teams are starting to turn a corner doesn't mean that the "they're just such good-natured fun!" rhetoric deserves to return. |
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mauve
Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:15 am |
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| Guillotine wrote: |
| Did I just see authentic Russian propaganda in the spot before the trailer? Didn't watch all of it but it sure didn't look like it was for a videogame? |
didn't see anything of the sort from here
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notbov
Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:34 am |
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now that I've played Destiny (see: all my goddamn posts in the Destiny thread), hype down on that
| Wall of Beef wrote: |
| Talbain wrote: |
Yeah, this is pretty much my impression. Splatoon looks really good though. Strange that the Wii U is the console I'm most interested in at the moment. |
Could be because its the console most interested in trying to make fun times? |
http://instagram.com/p/pKVhgYMY4h/#
| Felix wrote: |
| I'm kind of exasperated by people constantly wanting to praise Nintendo for that, though, particularly given the last almost-decade. Just because their software teams are starting to turn a corner doesn't mean that the "they're just such good-natured fun!" rhetoric deserves to return. |
I am excited for Splatoon because the developers themselves went on record as saying that they made a concept for a game first, then everything else fell in place. which is why the whole squid thing and how the game plays and how fun it looks comes off so organically
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Wall of Beef
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:13 am |
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| Felix wrote: |
| I'm kind of exasperated by people constantly wanting to praise Nintendo for that, though, particularly given the last almost-decade. Just because their software teams are starting to turn a corner doesn't mean that the "they're just such good-natured fun!" rhetoric deserves to return. |
Well then what do you think helped their E3 showing this year seem more positive? Their titles don't seem light years ahead of previous outings and Smash Bros. Wii U is hardly new news. I think it was how they presented everything in a less salesmany way, and created a more comfortable environment where people just seemed to be having fun. Rather than Sony/MS's "We are whats cool, we are the future, don't think you can deny us."
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Guillotine
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:21 pm |
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| mauve wrote: |
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| Did I just see authentic Russian propaganda in the spot before the trailer? Didn't watch all of it but it sure didn't look like it was for a videogame? |
didn't see anything of the sort from here |
I suppose it wouldn't show in the US? Anyway I found the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTe225bgCKA
I watched it in astonishment for about 1 minute, before I realized shootman couldn't really insert itself anymore. |
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Drem
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:00 pm |
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| Almost all of Microsoft and Sony's big games are AAA sequels and games that follows the genre trends needed for multi-million copy sales- everyone knows what those games are going to be like when they finally come out. I think one reason why Nintendo's games standout is because they're the only ones showing platformers and "happy games" (aside from Sony's LittleBigPlanet 3, which has always had a mixed reception outside of game magazines/sites). That alone makes Nintendo's games standout despite them honestly being mostly the expected assortment of Mario spin-off sequels and successors. Another big reason is that Nintendo spent the entire E3 showing off their games on stream, talking with the developers of the games and discussing the game design while playing it. Everyone else followed the typical E3 promotion process of having their games hurriedly demoed on each individual game site's personal stream, giving a quick explanation of basic concepts while showing limited gameplay (because we can't have their stories and setpieces ruined on camera) and then leaving to make room for the next game. |
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Felix
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:30 pm |
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| Wall of Beef wrote: |
| Felix wrote: |
| I'm kind of exasperated by people constantly wanting to praise Nintendo for that, though, particularly given the last almost-decade. Just because their software teams are starting to turn a corner doesn't mean that the "they're just such good-natured fun!" rhetoric deserves to return. |
Well then what do you think helped their E3 showing this year seem more positive? Their titles don't seem light years ahead of previous outings and Smash Bros. Wii U is hardly new news. I think it was how they presented everything in a less salesmany way, and created a more comfortable environment where people just seemed to be having fun. Rather than Sony/MS's "We are whats cool, we are the future, don't think you can deny us." |
I do think that Nintendo tends to have a little less marketing-speak on the whole (the tediousness of Sony and Microsoft's "media company courting 20something demographic" can't be overstated), which naturally helps them when they actually have new and interesting games to show off, but it's worth noting that they mostly haven't for a long dang time.
for the most part what gets to me here isn't the question of fun, but of complexity; I like to consider Punch-Out Wii vs. Fight Night Champion, which came out around the same time. the former is a retread of an NES game which Nintendo outsourced to their One Trusted Western Studio (they're actually here in Vancouver) that people decided to like as such; the other is a really elegant, gorgeous inversion of a 3D fighter that is way more complex on several levels but it's an EA game about a sports narrative so apparently fuck that
small bone to pick, is all. let's see if new Zelda turns out to be a better exploration game than No Man's Sky. let's see what they charge for both six months after release, too. |
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bza
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:45 pm |
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I don't understand why nobody else did what Nintendo did with their Treehouse stream. The focus on playable demos and developer interviews was way more interesting than CGI trailer #7
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Glam Grimfire
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:25 pm |
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lowest common denominator gamers (i.e the kinds of people that buy videogames) get hyped the most about trailers
example: probably every 15-20 something on your facebook feed that really enjoyed The Last Of Us and thought Tomb Raider was just, totally like a movie, man.
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Wall of Beef
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:15 pm |
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From what I have heard is that the Nintendo Twitch stream was one of the higher ranking Twitch streams during the events time frame. Twitch seems to have a lot of lower common denominator gamers.
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CubaLibre
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:17 am |
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I dunno, I maybe don't think we should be calling whole swathes of imagined people the "lowest common denominator" and then sweeping our capes off our shoulders, snuffling haughtily.
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notbov
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:18 am |
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| Wall of Beef wrote: |
| From what I have heard is that the Nintendo Twitch stream was one of the higher ranking Twitch streams during the events time frame. Twitch seems to have a lot of lower common denominator gamers. |
well, /v/ was hanging out on the Treehouse stream and they don't even play games
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:50 am |
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Nintendo had the "best" E3 because everyone else's lineups were almost completely known weeks in advance. People want to see something new or unknown and no one else was really offering that. Add in that most of what was shown elsewhere was comfortably in 2015land (i.e. far enough away to diminish excitement) and Nintendo was pretty much given an easy path to supposed victory.
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