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schroeder

Joined: 06 Mar 2013 Location: Interior of mind n+1
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:09 pm |
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| AssCreed can't be involved in a journalistic ethics scandal, there aren't any women in it. |
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mauve

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Mr. Mechanical ontological terrorist

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: Scare Room 99
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:33 pm |
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| schroeder wrote: |
| AssCreed can't be involved in a journalistic ethics scandal, there aren't any women in it. |
Not after what happened to Jade Raymond... _________________
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| You are a pretty fucked up guy. |
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Mr. Mechanical ontological terrorist

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: Scare Room 99
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evnvnv hapax legomenon

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: the los angeles
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:00 am |
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Yo that was the dumbest thing I've ever read _________________ The text will not live forever. The cup are small |
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Mr. Mechanical ontological terrorist

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: Scare Room 99
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:45 am |
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Yo that was the dumbest thing I've ever read |
I almost want to do a line by line takedown but I know it's not worth the effort.
Okay that's a lie I really just want to read a takedown but I know no one is going to do one.
I found it here, btw: http://www.reddit.com/r/bestofoutrageculture which is currently full of gamergate hilarity. _________________
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| You are a pretty fucked up guy. |
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Ymer

Joined: 05 Oct 2009 Location: PAL region
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:12 am |
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I don't even know what's going on any more:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2MLRt8CQAAIJ1-.png
http://pic.twitter.com/OpBYDC8n1P
Took me a while to even figure whose "side" is which. I think one of the more facinating things I've realized from all this is how dangerously easy it is to isolate yourself in one's own little echo chamber on the Internet and not even realize it today. _________________
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boojiboy7 narcissistic irony-laden twat

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: take me on a blatant doom trip.
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:28 pm |
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| Mr. Mechanical wrote: |
| evnvnv wrote: |
Yo that was the dumbest thing I've ever read |
I almost want to do a line by line takedown but I know it's not worth the effort.
Okay that's a lie I really just want to read a takedown but I know no one is going to do one. |
I mean, it would end up being a usenet style response becuase almost each line has to be quoted to illustrate how dumb it is.
Hell, the fact that people still think there is such a thing as "games journalism" is a huge mistake at the heart there.
Nevermind that all his articles are gamergate bullshit. He's OBJECTIVE!
Jesus fuck the internet. Medium is kinda the worst thing. |
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Adilegian Rogue Scholar

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Q*Bert Killscreen Nightmare
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:17 pm |
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| evnvnv wrote: |
Yo that was the dumbest thing I've ever read |
Someone plundered a dictionary in order to avoid context.
I'd hate to break to this person that acknowledging the persistence of bias has existed well before postmodernism became a self-conscious idea.
This reads like my own bias against deconstruction after I left undergrad before I knew how deconstruction is and has been practiced. It's more about process than conclusions, except insofar as process is the purpose, much like counseling therapy. _________________
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miaou

Joined: 12 Dec 2012
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:57 pm |
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If that guy just chose to stop lending his time and energy to a thinly veiled hate mob that list would immediately vanish. That's the reason people don't like you, buddy. |
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Adilegian Rogue Scholar

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Q*Bert Killscreen Nightmare
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:04 pm |
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If that guy just chose to stop lending his time and energy to a thinly veiled hate mob that list would immediately vanish. That's the reason people don't like you, buddy. |
Yeah. For all of the talk about tactics and PR that goes on in the GG echo chamber, there is a significant lack of awareness about the state of their hashtag's PR. _________________
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Talbain

Joined: 14 Jan 2007
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:02 pm |
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| Adilegian wrote: |
| Someone plundered a dictionary in order to avoid context. |
Context seems to be what's missing from every person agreeing to whatever GamerGate is supposedly making a statement about. _________________
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boojiboy7 narcissistic irony-laden twat

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: take me on a blatant doom trip.
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:43 pm |
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| Adilegian wrote: |
| evnvnv wrote: |
Yo that was the dumbest thing I've ever read |
Someone plundered a dictionary in order to avoid context.
I'd hate to break to this person that acknowledging the persistence of bias has existed well before postmodernism became a self-conscious idea.
This reads like my own bias against deconstruction after I left undergrad before I knew how deconstruction is and has been practiced. It's more about process than conclusions, except insofar as process is the purpose, much like counseling therapy. |
no postmodernism is bad because it takes away muh games. SHHHHHHHH with your actually knowing what stuff is. |
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cassievania cassie-no night zone

Joined: 16 Feb 2010 Location: Master, the batteries in your Wii Remote are depleted
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mauve

Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:23 pm |
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in 10 years a lot of these people are going to look back on what they did and facepalm for it
too much rationalization of existing viewpoints, not enough reflection on the quality of processes used to reach them _________________ twit |
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8128

Joined: 06 Jun 2008 Location: a very very very fine house
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:29 pm |
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wait are gamers the answer to the gender binary _________________
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Adilegian Rogue Scholar

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Q*Bert Killscreen Nightmare
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:02 pm |
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Rails against prejudices and stereotypes about gamers. Self-identifies gamers as nerds. _________________
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Adilegian Rogue Scholar

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Q*Bert Killscreen Nightmare
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:03 pm |
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| mauve wrote: |
| in 10 years a lot of these people are going to look back on what they did and facepalm for it |
Yeah, they'll be in their early 20s. _________________
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evnvnv hapax legomenon

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: the los angeles
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:01 pm |
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Gamers are not specifically burdened or privileged by the institution of government.... yet _________________ The text will not live forever. The cup are small |
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schroeder

Joined: 06 Mar 2013 Location: Interior of mind n+1
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:18 pm |
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| evnvnv wrote: |
| Gamers are not specifically burdened or privileged by the institution of government.... yet |
Oh aren't they? |
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Adilegian Rogue Scholar

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Q*Bert Killscreen Nightmare
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:33 pm |
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| schroeder wrote: |
| evnvnv wrote: |
| Gamers are not specifically burdened or privileged by the institution of government.... yet |
Oh aren't they? |
As I recall, GG individuals were quick to burn her away as possibly being a visible representative of GG. I'm kind of surprised that they pushed away a potential token female ally as a real life Not Your Shield. _________________
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Ni Go Zero Ichi

Joined: 10 Sep 2011
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 10:39 pm |
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| schroeder wrote: |
| evnvnv wrote: |
| Gamers are not specifically burdened or privileged by the institution of government.... yet |
Oh aren't they? |
By far the weirdest thing I've seen come out of all this yet. _________________ Just another savage day on Planet Earth. |
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Mr. Mechanical ontological terrorist

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: Scare Room 99
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mauve

Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:42 pm |
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i like the guys in the responses going "not really it's through an ad partner so it doesn't count" apparently not understanding how advertising actually works _________________ twit |
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evnvnv hapax legomenon

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: the los angeles
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Mr. Mechanical ontological terrorist

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: Scare Room 99
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:50 am |
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She's a gamerghazi plant! _________________
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| You are a pretty fucked up guy. |
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miaou

Joined: 12 Dec 2012
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:43 pm |
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Apparently this video is meant to really upset SJWs but me and Dracko talked about it and it's really middle of the road stuff we already know anyway?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkGRw1zYAvQ
She actually says at one point words to the effect that "Sexual harassment isn't a big problem in the games industry, it only happened to me once!" Which I guess is upsetting but probably not for the reason bro team or those with a pro-GG agenda are angling for.
Also the guys who helped her resolve that situation would be SJWs or White Knights or something by GG standards anyway.
Basically this: Jenn Frank - I was a Teenage Sexist
Nobody is saying that the lack of diversity among game developers is some kind of conspiracy. This is a common tactic used by 'I'm not sexist but I'm not a feminist!' people to discredit the idea of ever changing anything, by blowing the progressive agenda way out of proportion. This woman identifies that there might be numerous aspects of the industry that will fuck you up if you work in it. What she doesn't do is make the connection that these things make the games industry a working environment that disproportionately favours straight white men. That might be why the applications 'just don't come in' from other kinds of people who do not have the institutional advantages in the rest of society that straight white men undeniably have. The only difference in viewpoint here is that 'SJWs' are suggesting that we actually try a few changes to the things everyone identifies as problems.
Bro team ask about the influence publishers and game journalists have over AAA game development, to which she answers 'lots' and 'none' respectively. Notably they don't ask how much influence social justice criticism or indie games have over AAA game development. They probably don't ask because the answers would also be 'none'.
The pernicious thing about his video is that it's going to be received as some kind of checkmate against the SJWs because 'see! a woman does agree with us!' Good shit-stirring, bro team. |
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schroeder

Joined: 06 Mar 2013 Location: Interior of mind n+1
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Adilegian Rogue Scholar

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Q*Bert Killscreen Nightmare
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:08 pm |
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| miaou wrote: |
| The pernicious thing about his video is that it's going to be received as some kind of checkmate against the SJWs because 'see! a woman does agree with us!' Good shit-stirring, bro team. |
Yeah. I don't think anyone is lacking self-justifying, internally-oriented media, and neither are they lacking filtering mechanisms to interpret external media as supporting their "side," if that's how they choose to articulate their relationship to others. If they're capable of working the Intel reversal on Gamasutra into a validation of their effectiveness, I don't think there's much outside of individual revelations that will swerve GG from reifying their internal narratives. _________________
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Tuxedo

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Ni Go Zero Ichi

Joined: 10 Sep 2011
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:48 pm |
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http://time.com/3576870/worst-words-poll-2014/
Dumb poll, dumb results, fuck Time |
I voted for "I can't even", but "om nom nom" was a close second.
(Genuinely surprised that "privilege", "feels" and "all the [noun]" aren't on the list) _________________ Just another savage day on Planet Earth. |
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Tulpa

Joined: 31 Jul 2008
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:29 am |
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surprised "this is so important" didn't chart, but maybe that's just the most irritating phrase to only me. The moment I saw a tumblr post talking about how "Night at the Museum" was a "really important movie you guys", I gave up on this species and its hopes for survival, let alone any hope for cultural flourishing. _________________
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Mr. Mechanical ontological terrorist

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: Scare Room 99
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evnvnv hapax legomenon

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: the los angeles
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:21 am |
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| Tulpa wrote: |
| a tumblr post talking about how "Night at the Museum" was a "really important movie you guys" |
Sometimes I really want a window into this horrible tumblr nightmarescape you reference from time to time. But then... I don't know if I really want that, you know? _________________ The text will not live forever. The cup are small |
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evnvnv hapax legomenon

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: the los angeles
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:22 am |
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| Mr. Mechanical wrote: |
http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/13/the-waronnerds-how-far-left-feminists-and-the-media-created-gamergate/
It's like all this stuff is bleeding in from some parallel dimension.
If anything this all makes me wonder: if every online community these days is essentially a kind of echo chamber then what kind of echo chamber is select button? |
One full of sjw libtards obviously _________________ The text will not live forever. The cup are small |
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Ni Go Zero Ichi

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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:03 am |
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| Tulpa wrote: |
| The moment I saw a tumblr post talking about how "Night at the Museum" was a "really important movie you guys", I gave up on this species and its hopes for survival, let alone any hope for cultural flourishing. |
You held out longer than most of us. _________________ Just another savage day on Planet Earth. |
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Brooks

Joined: 08 Apr 2007 Location: peak caucasity
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:08 am |
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| evnvnv wrote: |
| Mr. Mechanical wrote: |
http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/13/the-waronnerds-how-far-left-feminists-and-the-media-created-gamergate/
It's like all this stuff is bleeding in from some parallel dimension.
If anything this all makes me wonder: if every online community these days is essentially a kind of echo chamber then what kind of echo chamber is select button? |
One full of sjw libtards obviously |
A cool one that is at least coherent enough to even pose that question to itself |
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Tulpa

Joined: 31 Jul 2008
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:06 am |
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| evnvnv wrote: |
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| a tumblr post talking about how "Night at the Museum" was a "really important movie you guys" |
Sometimes I really want a window into this horrible tumblr nightmarescape you reference from time to time. But then... I don't know if I really want that, you know? |
Turns out, it didn't claim to be 'so important' but the post was still structured like the countless 'this is so important' posts I've seen.
http://bananagirlworld16.tumblr.com/post/96080229275/okay-but-why-dont-more-people-talk-about-night-at
Honestly, the nightmarescape I exist on is partly to keep a pulse on what preposterous things people get up to.
The 'this is so important' post is structurally identical. Take some late capitalist garbage mass media, by coincidence it has some quality that appeals to the teenager with (very) vague leftist leanings, sermon on the mount about its greatness and integrity, though this is transparent and desperate defense for one's own bad taste. Get acknowledged and praised by hundreds of thousands of people for having terrible taste. _________________
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evnvnv hapax legomenon

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: the los angeles
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:33 pm |
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| Tulpa wrote: |
| evnvnv wrote: |
| Tulpa wrote: |
| a tumblr post talking about how "Night at the Museum" was a "really important movie you guys" |
Sometimes I really want a window into this horrible tumblr nightmarescape you reference from time to time. But then... I don't know if I really want that, you know? |
Turns out, it didn't claim to be 'so important' but the post was still structured like the countless 'this is so important' posts I've seen.
http://bananagirlworld16.tumblr.com/post/96080229275/okay-but-why-dont-more-people-talk-about-night-at
Honestly, the nightmarescape I exist on is partly to keep a pulse on what preposterous things people get up to.
The 'this is so important' post is structurally identical. Take some late capitalist garbage mass media, by coincidence it has some quality that appeals to the teenager with (very) vague leftist leanings, sermon on the mount about its greatness and integrity, though this is transparent and desperate defense for one's own bad taste. Get acknowledged and praised by hundreds of thousands of people for having terrible taste. |
The phrase "poc people" makes me want to tear my hair out _________________ The text will not live forever. The cup are small |
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Ronk saucy Scott Pilgrim fanfic

Joined: 29 Dec 2008
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:59 pm |
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i think the real enemy is 13 and 14 year olds with such a direct and intimate connection to the internet. on the gamergate side, on the "annoying sjw" side.
i feel like this might be the most justified "kids are the fucking worst these days" generation and i fully embrace being a crotchety old man _________________
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shrugtheironteacup man of tomorrow

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: a meat
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:24 pm |
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the "why the FUCK doesn't ANYONE TALK about THING THAT 900 BILLION HUMAN BEINGS TALK ABOUT EVERY GODDAMN DAY let me LECTURE YOU ABOUT IT IN INTERNET YELLS" format is the most annoying thing on the internet outside of things that might actually matter to human beings in the world _________________
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