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Toups tyranically banal

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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:21 am |
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these videos come with a straight up disclaimer "it is possible to enjoy and appreciate a work while still pointing out its more problematic aspects"
I don't know if there even IS any larger message to these videos than to simply observe these problems. it is something that a lot of people simply are not aware of, though it's becoming clear that many of them would rather not know.
which kind of makes it all the stronger of an imperative. _________________
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Toups tyranically banal

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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:50 am |
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maybe you should reconsider some assumptions you are holding that could contribute to that perception _________________
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Toups tyranically banal

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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:24 pm |
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there is a fair amount of earnest, substantial criticism you could legitimately make about her arguments.
but consider that this started off as a small, obscure project. if it had not had the poor fortune of becoming a target of internet harassment, it likely would have stayed that way. her videos may have still garnered a following, and some criticism, but I cannot imagine them having even an ounce of the controversy they now have. so the well was poisoned by that campaign of harassment long before her first video was ever made. she did not plan or ask for that harassment, but it set the tone for all events to follow. as a result, ANY criticisms made against carry the weight of that harassment. it is impossible to fairly or earnestly engage in a critical discussion of her work without acknowledging the consequences of that history. so... to simply criticize her arguments while overlooking or dismissing that essential piece of context is HIGHLY disingenuous, and yeah, makes you look your argument comes more from being threatened than any earnest attempt at discourse.
to claim that she exploited the harassment for her own gain is to dismiss the dismiss the persistent and harmful impact of that harassment, which is real and undeniable. getting tons of money from harassment did not make the harassment go away! it only allowed her to very easily complete her original stated goal for the project, which she has accomplished.
I think it is absolutely FAIR to criticize her final work, however to do so is also walking into a minefield. it must be done mindfully and carefully with complete awareness of context and facts. which is something no one on the internet is good at. _________________
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Toups tyranically banal

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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:35 pm |
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MORE to the point: there is NOTHING in her video series that anyone should consider entirely off limits for discussion. even if you disagree with her arguments and analyses, what exactly is the harm of her having a place to make them?
if there no harm in her having a place to make them, why does ANYONE care so much? she is just one person. hell, she probably would not even have much influence were it not for the campaigns carried out against her. _________________
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