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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:48 pm |
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While we're at it, I just finished my freshman year here. While it's a bit more traditional than St. John's or Hampshire at least academically, it's a great place to go if you want to study a variety of things out of interest, as people tend to be enthusiastic about academics and will understand when you say "OMG I want to take every class in the catalog" rather than responding "BUT I ONLY LIKE THE 12TH CENTURY/JAVASCRIPT/WHATEVER" or "what? ...school?" _________________
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zak
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:51 pm |
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| CubaLibre wrote: |
| zak: In general, college is not what it's cracked up to be. Tends to be fairly useless for anyone who actually wants to live a life. Unfortunately, those little pieces of paper they give you at the end are pretty valuable, not least because colleges have a pretty vested interest in making sure they stay that way. Studying philosophy in a regular school would drive me fucking nuts, but your mileage may vary. I say go for it headfirst. If nothing else, your little piece of paper might enable you to get a job that doesn't require the subway and two busses for shitty pay. (Money doesn't matter much in this life, but it does matter.) |
Well yeah, that what my parents keep saying, that I need to get a degree. And I'm perfectly fine with that; I understand. You need something to fall back on.
The thing is that when something doesn't work you stop (after you've tried it for a while and it just can't seem to make it work), you don't keep going at it. Doing two more years of literature of english would have been a complete waste of time, because the ultimate goal of that college was to turn me into a teacher, so that I could go on and teach kids the same crap I was taught. I learned all sorts of lingustics, ethnology, and various other useless things that I would just forget after the exam. I didn't even have time to work on my writing.
So philosophy is a better choice for me, because it really filters out some of the things I don't really want to waste time learing. Sure, there are useless thing there too, but it's better than literature and english. I've allready met a really cool teacher (we exchanged some books and had drinks), and I'm turning in my application next month. I'm really gonna give it a go.
And about the job thing, I don't really want a real job. I want to make money from my writing, and it may take a while. I don't really have the mental discipline for holding down a real job (I sleep at irregular hours, get easily, etc), and working from nine to five would most surely break me down in a few months. So, since my family can support me, and I have a vague talent for what I want to do, I'm going to try. |
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Tokyo Rude

Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Location: I'm on the phone Derrick!
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:57 pm |
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| Everyone should teach english in Korea with real life pirates. |
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shrugtheironteacup man of tomorrow

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: a meat
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:08 pm |
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My sister took a few classes at Reed when she was still in high school.
This is my way of saying "hey, I'm in the Portland area myself, fancy that."
More on topic: I finished high school at a local community college in December, about a month before I turned eighteen. My job was barely enough to pay for my classes even when living at home, and then in a fit of youthful idiocy I quit said job rather abruptly at the beginning of June.
Then RECESSION.
With one job under my belt that I had probably pissed off I didn't have any success at finding work for about a year and a half. So I couldn't afford to go to school. I could barely afford bus fare to look for jobs. I hung out at the library a lot and felt guilty for mooching off my parents and making my girlfriend pay for everything she wanted to drag me to.
..then I got a full time job watching holes.
..then I got laid off one day and my girlfriend dumped me the next.
..then I couldn't find work again and I went to live in Washington with some friends for the summer.
..then I got a horrible job and worked through community college (which was a lot like high school, only with ash trays) but still had to live with my parents. I eventually "studied" welding. All my old academic credits expired. I became frustrated dealing with the incredibly obtuse way the welding department ran itself and how it led to my basic skills rusting while picking up random credits just to keep my health insurance.
Type 1 Diabetic UITB
Now listlessly blue collar, looking for something that fits my spotty manufacturing education.
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:56 pm |
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About four years ago I was a somewhat shy and self-doubting kid. I was kinda fat too.
Though my best friend was the complete opposite of me: mad ripped, outgoing, etc. Basically he was a wigger gangsta kid but he still had half a brain, so I hung out with him when i could(He moved away when we were kids and became a gansta the following year) and learned lots of real life stuff(and had a lot of awkward experiences too) that made me less shy and I started to have a ''Hey, I can actually do it of I try!'' mindset.
Back then i would spend entire evenings on my computer and not even go outside on weekends, until I met one kid that introduced me to his circle of friend that I quickly became a part of and I started partying like mad, talking to people(lots of girls too!) and working out.
Nowadays I go outside a lot, be it to smoke marijuana, ride my bike or just take a walk with my pals. Now I'm even starting to shape my shut-in friends(from my previous circle) into decent folks. Though now if I spend too much time inside I feel lonely. :( |
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| zak wrote: |
| CubaLibre wrote: |
| zak: In general, college is not what it's cracked up to be. Tends to be fairly useless for anyone who actually wants to live a life. Unfortunately, those little pieces of paper they give you at the end are pretty valuable, not least because colleges have a pretty vested interest in making sure they stay that way. Studying philosophy in a regular school would drive me fucking nuts, but your mileage may vary. I say go for it headfirst. If nothing else, your little piece of paper might enable you to get a job that doesn't require the subway and two busses for shitty pay. (Money doesn't matter much in this life, but it does matter.) |
Well yeah, that what my parents keep saying, that I need to get a degree. And I'm perfectly fine with that; I understand. You need something to fall back on.
The thing is that when something doesn't work you stop (after you've tried it for a while and it just can't seem to make it work), you don't keep going at it. Doing two more years of literature of english would have been a complete waste of time, because the ultimate goal of that college was to turn me into a teacher, so that I could go on and teach kids the same crap I was taught. I learned all sorts of lingustics, ethnology, and various other useless things that I would just forget after the exam. I didn't even have time to work on my writing.
So philosophy is a better choice for me, because it really filters out some of the things I don't really want to waste time learing. Sure, there are useless thing there too, but it's better than literature and english. I've allready met a really cool teacher (we exchanged some books and had drinks), and I'm turning in my application next month. I'm really gonna give it a go.
And about the job thing, I don't really want a real job. I want to make money from my writing, and it may take a while. I don't really have the mental discipline for holding down a real job (I sleep at irregular hours, get easily, etc), and working from nine to five would most surely break me down in a few months. So, since my family can support me, and I have a vague talent for what I want to do, I'm going to try. |
Why don't you get a job in which you write then?
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| shrugtheironteacup wrote: |
I almost went to Saint John's as well. Then they told me I could afford to pay them over $20,000 a year for the privilege. Eventually I stopped attending to the high school that bored me and my grades plummeted and I got a lot of talks about not living up to my potential.
My refusal to go into debt has led in large part to my listless blue collar existence. |
There ain't nothing wrong with going into debt. |
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:24 am |
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| CubaLibre wrote: |
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| When did you graduate? |
Last May.
zak: In general, college is not what it's cracked up to be. Tends to be fairly useless for anyone who actually wants to live a life. Unfortunately, those little pieces of paper they give you at the end are pretty valuable, not least because colleges have a pretty vested interest in making sure they stay that way. Studying philosophy in a regular school would drive me fucking nuts, but your mileage may vary. I say go for it headfirst. If nothing else, your little piece of paper might enable you to get a job that doesn't require the subway and two busses for shitty pay. (Money doesn't matter much in this life, but it does matter.) |
Money is pretty damn awesome, man.
The pursuit of money is a pretty worthwhile goal in my opinion.
Also, you shouldn't go to college just for a piece of paper. I feel you should go for the experience. To learn something.
However!
The piece of paper is still a representation of that, and as such, is important as well. But I think you should know what you want that piece of paper to represent... |
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psiga saudade

Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:54 am |
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| shrugtheironteacup wrote: |
I almost went to Saint John's as well. Then they told me I could afford to pay them over $20,000 a year for the privilege. Eventually I stopped attending to the high school that bored me and my grades plummeted and I got a lot of talks about not living up to my potential.
My refusal to go into debt has led in large part to my listless blue collar existence. |
There ain't nothing wrong with going into debt. |
There is, of course.
Anyway, it's a choice between listless blue collar and grinding white collar. Find something you love, whether it's blue or white. _________________
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:50 am |
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| Well, obviously there are bad things about being in debt, like paying it back, but it is certainly not necessarily a bad thing. |
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psiga saudade

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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:54 am |
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Renting leverage. _________________
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haircute heteronormative jerk

Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Topeka, KS
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:21 am |
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| I spent the next four months on her couch playing Dragon Quest 7, watching daytime tv, and drinking cheap scotch. |
Didn't you feel guilty or ashamed of doing this? Not meaning to offend or anything, I would just feel like a prick if I was relying on someone else to live in that manner.
I am generally too racked with guilt or shame to even consider extended periods of unemployment, simply because I'd be terrified to leave the house if I thought people were talking about my parasitic lifestyle behind my back. Here's to a Catholic education! |
Sorry Maz! I forgot all about this thread...
Anyway, yeah I did feel incredibly ashamed. But not at first. The first couple weeks it was cool but after that I could tell it was starting to wear on them. So...I spent a couple more months doing it even though I knew it was annoying my sister.
When I did get my job I gave her almost the entirety of my first few checks to "make up for back rent". It was actually quite a sum and much more rent that was needed but...whatever. I ate food, showered, washed my clothes, and took up space. Seemed fair. _________________ Get Wild and Tough! |
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CubaLibre the road lawyer

Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Location: Balmer
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:38 pm |
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| Did you know a Mr. Sloat? |
Nope. Would he be older or younger than me? (I'm guessing older.) Maybe he went to Santa Fe? I was an Annapolis dude.
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I was pretty close to going to St. John's. I chickened out, I suppose. Going to Hampshire now. |
Hey, I have a friend who wussed out of St. John's and went to Hampshire! Do you know a Tom O'Keefe? I guess he's graduated now, he was in my class. Big dude.
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| My refusal to go into debt has led in large part to my listless blue collar existence. |
There's good debt, and then there's bad debt. _________________ Let's Play, starring me. |
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Mr Mustache Mean Mr. Mustache

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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:43 pm |
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| CubaLibre wrote: |
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| Did you know a Mr. Sloat? |
Nope. Would he be older or younger than me? (I'm guessing older.) Maybe he went to Santa Fe? I was an Annapolis dude. |
He was probably older...but definitely in Annapolis, which is incidentally a very strange town. St. Johns also seemed a bit odd; more conservative than I would have thought, and very white, even by liberal arts standards. Nice library though.
You know a Mr. Stani? _________________ The people are like wool to me |
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CubaLibre the road lawyer

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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:53 pm |
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| Mr Mustache wrote: |
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| Did you know a Mr. Sloat? |
Nope. Would he be older or younger than me? (I'm guessing older.) Maybe he went to Santa Fe? I was an Annapolis dude. |
He was probably older...but definitely in Annapolis, which is incidentally a very strange town. St. Johns also seemed a bit odd; more conservative than I would have thought, and very white, even by liberal arts standards. Nice library though.
You know a Mr. Stani? |
St. John's doesn't give a dilly fuck about race. It is awesome.
It is also very conservative, in the traditional (read: nonpolitical) use of the word. Politically speaking it doesn't have much of a character at all, because unlike other colleges it is not a tool of the federal educational establishment. Anyway I'm just spouting pro-Johnnie jingoism, don't mind me.
I did not know a Mr. Stani. I didn't know anyone more than a grade above me, so that might be our disconnect right there. _________________ Let's Play, starring me. |
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parker a wolf adventuring

Joined: 31 May 2007 Location: suplex city
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:03 pm |
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| everything The Troops said |
Except my parents aren't dead. They're still alive. And I think he showers more often than me.
I'll probably just live with my parents the rest of my life. When they die I'll live off whatever money they leave me I guess. Seems like a sound plan to me. I can't really stand having to be somewhere at a certain time. And I like going to sleep when I'm tired, if I want, and waking up when I'm not.
I have some friends, and I sort of feel bad sometimes because I don't really like "hanging out," so I think that they think I dislike them for some reason.
If I could do anything I wanted though, then I suppose I'd be a ...mystery solving monarch, of some kind... yeah.
I played lots of King's Quest as a kid. |
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CubaLibre the road lawyer

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This isn't meant as an insult to anybody, but I'm pretty surprised your parents don't just kick you out on the street. I mean, mine would. Mine did, basically. Soon's I graduated college, cut off. Period. _________________ Let's Play, starring me. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:29 pm |
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Parker, you sound almost proud of that.
I just don't understand how people can want to /not/ do things. There's a difference between "I'm going to live off my parents and play videogames" and "I'm going to live off my parents and volunteer and do art and solve intellectual problems that fascinate me".
My parents are giving me a bit of leeway after I graduate this Sunday, but that's because I am studying for tests and volunteering before moving out in September. They'd probably give me leeway anyway but I'm a classicist and I believe in the honor of independence/self-sufficiency*.
* I acknowledge that it didn't play out quite like that (lol slave society) but the sentiment is valid.
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Mr Mustache Mean Mr. Mustache

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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:32 pm |
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| CubaLibre wrote: |
| pro-Johnnie jingoism |
More like Johnnie goggles :)
Also, during the summer living off of my parents I volunteered and it was quite nice. _________________ The people are like wool to me |
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i spent a couple of months living with my parents doing nothing, but mainly out of necessity (semester ended, had to leave dorms, had no car, thus, no job, as eastern kentucky doesn't have any public transportation to speak of) and it was really fucking boring
the first month was really nice, as it gave me time to unwind from my wild-ass first year of university and hell sometimes a dude just needs to do nothing, you know?
but then i wanted to get out of there so bad it drove me up the walls. so i sold a bunch of games (useless shit), took the money and roadtripped to austin, texas for a week. it put the life back in me, i swear, and a month or so later i got my shit together and moved into this fine house.
my parents absolutely insist on paying for some of my living expenses now, because i'm kind of the kid with the best shot at getting a degree in a family which has never had a college educated member, and they want me to focus on studying and not worry about money. of course, i still do, since i have hangups about accepting charity, mainly because i think money is worth a lot more if you earn it with your two hands. i also think that any purchase that isn't essential to your basic comfort & survival or somehow intellectually enlightening is wasteful (probably why i own like 5 games) so i have odd opinions about money.
i can't fucking fathom how any of you could enjoy a listless, nonexistence in your mom's basement. sure, it's safe, secure, and you'll have food on the table for quite a while, but hell, man, i've been stuck without the means to feed myself a few times, and i can't say it was enjoyable, but it was certainly good for me.
life ain't life without both the ups and downs.
man up, hikkiomori*.
* Simon Belmont is exempt from this since he seems to generally loathe his situation and is trying his damnedist to fix it
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Well, the thing is, with some degrees it's very difficult to work. Well, you can work enough to support yourself in terms of spending money only, but actually having enough money to move out (ie. something like 250 AUD a week) requires time to work.
Example, I would have dearly like to have moved out this semester. But with 24 hours a week of contact hours, I don't have the time to work without sacrificing academic stuff. Maybe because it's 1st year and I'm freaking out, but I don't see how someone doing a lot of hours at Uni could work. |
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It is also because you go to a decent Australian tech school which is several orders of magnitude more challenging (or at least time consuming) than a typical American college such as Joe's....
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Physics?
I'm not so good at physics, that's what I know.
My weakest science subject. >_< |
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shut it HSB. u of louisville is a fine institution that's well respected in quite a few fields. i'm not going to some ass fuck ivy league prestige factory but i'm not going to a community college. i live off loans and grants during the semester, to facilitate spending as much time on my studies as possible.
it annoys me that i occasionally take flack from a bunch of shut-in pervert stalkers about my choice of university because it isn't ivy league or i'm not doing a compsci degree. |
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throwing in, because why not:
i go to uconn. i'm not sure about louisville, and i don't mean to perpetuate the stereotype, but the amount of effort that i need to invest is a complete and total joke and has never stopped being one.
during the semester, i work for the university's resnet for like $9/hr, nine hours a week (i could conceivably invest a bit more time here; i don't do anything on the weekends but drive down to wesleyan to see my girlfriend or vice versa, although the work is of the soul-crushing call center variety so y'know who's counting).
my dad pays my tuition bill, which is pretty darned cheap (4.5k/semester), and my mom throws three grand at me a semester to live on. i rent a room in the basement of a one-story grad student house off campus for $375/mo plus $50 utilities, and i really wish they'd cancel the digital cable. i don't pay my own car insurance or cell phone bills. i can't afford to; they have money. if i had a serious problem about supporting myself and being independent i suppose i could take out some loans, but as much as we hardly get along i am pretty sure that would seriously offend them both.
for the latter half of high school, and every intervening summer except one up through right now, i've worked at my local gamestop. i can't really stand it anymore; i've never had very much faith in my work ethic although to the best of my knowledge it has never been tested per se and y'know there might just be a link between the two of those. i have a pretty high opinion of "laziness" in the face of overwhelming disinterest, the way that only people who have never been hard up for money seem to, and even having typed that i still kind of regard it more as enlightenment than a lack of worldliness or what have you.
i'm probably going to stay up there next summer and take one of the handful of mid-semester positions that resnet has available (my mother's house, where i'm living now, is about half an hour away). this will be, appropriately, because i can't take very much more of her or gamestop - please forgive me for how adolescent that sounds - and because it will make summer rent money a nonissue ($150 after taxes for a twenty-four hour week at gamestop; $300 untaxed for a thirty hour week at resnet). i will probably be very lonely and bored.
by the by - i just crunched some numbers, and the hypothetical fifteen grand i'd be making if i maintained a thirty hour week at resnet year round is exactly why i don't feel at all guilty about letting people who make six times what i do throw in about five percent of their earnings toward keeping me going. i may not deserve it, but hell if i don't have a bigger problem with that word than i do with any other in the english language (easy for me to say, ha ha); moreover, hell if it doesn't make sense.
i don't really think much of money or college degrees and i'm very proud of that.
also, because i didn't specify, i am doubling in cognitive science and film at a university that has neither a cognitive science nor a film department. essentially, it's a lot of philosophy, psych, drama, and english courses. |
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| joe wrote: |
| shut it HSB. u of louisville is a fine institution that's well respected in quite a few fields. i'm not going to some ass fuck ivy league prestige factory but i'm not going to a community college. i live off loans and grants during the semester, to facilitate spending as much time on my studies as possible. |
And you should chill the fuck out.
I didn't say your school wasn't well-respected.
I never said anything about it being bad that you weren't doing a CS degree either.
I simply pointed out that the kind of school toto goes to is pretty fucking hard compared to americna colleges, and that's the truth. The point is that if he hears about some american kid working and going to school at the same time and doesn't understand how that's possible, he shouldn't feel bad about it.
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And it annoys me that every time I say something you happen to not like you always fling back with this bullshit which just isn't true, so fuck off. |
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Wilkes the lester bangs of selectbutton posting

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| joe wrote: |
| i'm not going to some ass fuck ivy league prestige factory. |
thank god you didn't sell out like that lol
hey joe I will take you seriously again lol |
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Zebadayus pelvis othello
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:57 pm |
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Edit: This is General Burning Fest.
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Wilkes the lester bangs of selectbutton posting

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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:13 pm |
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| hi zeb you are pretty good at defending joe |
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Zebadayus pelvis othello
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Edit: Not an axe post.
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Predator Goose
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| Wilkes wrote: |
| hi zeb you are pretty good at defending joe |
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Wilkes the lester bangs of selectbutton posting

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| When I consider somebody my friend, I usually will defend them, yeah. |
I'm sure they appreciate it
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Zebadayus pelvis othello
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EDIT: Sorry, this is not The Axe.
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Wilkes the lester bangs of selectbutton posting

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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:33 pm |
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| When I consider somebody my friend, I usually will defend them, yeah. |
I'm sure they appreciate it
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I mean, I would sort of not really like it, having someone presume I couldn't defend myself and do a poor job of defending me. and then I would be judged by the kind of ineloquent, presumptious and overzealous friends I keep, and that wouldn't be so sweet. |
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Wilkes the lester bangs of selectbutton posting

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Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:36 pm |
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| Wilkes wrote: |
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| zebadayus wrote: |
| When I consider somebody my friend, I usually will defend them, yeah. |
I'm sure they appreciate it
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I mean, I would sort of not really like it, having someone presume I couldn't defend myself and do a poor job of defending me. and then I would be judged by the kind of ineloquent, presumptious and overzealous friends I keep, and that wouldn't be so sweet. |
Well, in general, one does tend to be judged by the friends they keep... |
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dongle

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: Berkeley, CA
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:41 pm |
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| joe wrote: |
| i'm not going to some ass fuck ivy league prestige factory |
don't be a hater.
also, people living off of their parents while in college is pretty irrelevant to the topic since one generally goes to college for the sake of being able to support oneself. this is supposed to be about shut-ins who are making no effort to do things with their lives. |
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Wilkes the lester bangs of selectbutton posting

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: i'm here.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:44 pm |
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| Hot Stott Bot wrote: |
| Wilkes wrote: |
| Wilkes wrote: |
| zebadayus wrote: |
| When I consider somebody my friend, I usually will defend them, yeah. |
I'm sure they appreciate it
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I mean, I would sort of not really like it, having someone presume I couldn't defend myself and do a poor job of defending me. and then I would be judged by the kind of ineloquent, presumptious and overzealous friends I keep, and that wouldn't be so sweet. |
Well, in general, one does tend to be judged by the friends they keep... |
yeah |
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parker a wolf adventuring

Joined: 31 May 2007 Location: suplex city
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:37 pm |
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| dongle wrote: |
Parker, you sound almost proud of that.
I just don't understand how people can want to /not/ do things. There's a difference between "I'm going to live off my parents and play videogames" and "I'm going to live off my parents and volunteer and do art and solve intellectual problems that fascinate me". |
I'm not proud of it, but I'm not ashamed or bothered by it either.
There isn't really anything that interests me enough that I want to spend the rest of what little time I have in this world doing it. If I'm only going to live 60-80 or so years I'd rather do something important or not waste my time at all. So I sit around and read and watch old movies and whatnot, trying to educate myself for enjoyment and just in case I might finally find something worth doing someday.
For awhile I wanted to be a world travelling bum, but I'm not very good at talking to people, so I thought I'd have a hard time with that, and I probably wouldn't fit in with all the hip world travelling bums they have nowadays.
When I did go to college, I tried to see if I could not pay them. I had the money to pay them, I just didn't want to. I figured, "How about I not pay you and you don't have to give me grades or anything, just let me sit in the classroom. How does that sound, huh?" Well they didn't go for that.
Anyway, I appreciate independence and self-suffiency. I just don't appreciate working to pay off bills that never stop coming. I don't want to get stuck in anything. And I don't really need money for anything I want. I can get books from the library, download any film or television show I may want to watch. And I guess I just feel like the minute I start to do something I'd be limiting my options and wasting my time when I could be doing something else, something better, so I just do nothing. Which is also fine with me. |
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SplashBeats Guest
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:44 am |
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| Hot Stott Bot wrote: |
| joe wrote: |
| shut it HSB. u of louisville is a fine institution that's well respected in quite a few fields. i'm not going to some ass fuck ivy league prestige factory but i'm not going to a community college. i live off loans and grants during the semester, to facilitate spending as much time on my studies as possible. |
And you should chill the fuck out.
I didn't say your school wasn't well-respected.
I never said anything about it being bad that you weren't doing a CS degree either.
I simply pointed out that the kind of school toto goes to is pretty fucking hard compared to americna colleges, and that's the truth. The point is that if he hears about some american kid working and going to school at the same time and doesn't understand how that's possible, he shouldn't feel bad about it.
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| a bunch of shut-in pervert stalkers |
And it annoys me that every time I say something you happen to not like you always fling back with this bullshit which just isn't true, so fuck off. |
i think you should chill the fuck out too, cowboy.
i don't really hold any ivy leaguers in bad regard, or think i'm cool for attending a public university. frankly, i go to the best university i can afford. i can't afford ivy league, so i don't go there. you guys keep on rockin, i'll keep on rockin yer boat.
i'm just doing my thing (just let me bang)
also parker one day your mother is going to die
and you're a huge drain on her (and taking advantage of her motherly love) |
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