[Zebadayus]

Parker is sad.

[parker]

So what, The Troops is awesome because he's living off his dead parents and I'm just a sad pathetic dude cause I'm living off my still-alive parents? Blast it! If only Joe Chill had murdered my parents as a young boy, then maybe I would find social acceptance among my peers!

And thanks vinculum gate, I had forgotten that I had said the exact same thing in my first post. I'm glad you're here to remind me of the things I've said already.

I just wanted to thank you guys for taking the time to try and understand your fellow man and not being quick to classify and catagorize him like some sort of piece of fucking meat or something! Here I was, all worried about nothing. Assholes.

[Zebadayus]

I think I may understand you, Parker. That doesn't make you any less sad in my eyes.

And who the heck is The Troops?

[parker]

Well that must be some amazing talent or gift you have, being able to understand people by skimming over two messages they've posted on an internet forum then being able to discern whether they are indeed "sad" or not. Actually that's sort of sad in my eyes, which are more important than your eyes, because I bet my eyes are bigger. In fact, I'm known in certain circles as "Mr. Peepers." That's how big they are.

[Zebadayus]

???

Actually, I have pretty large eyes. I was made fun of for it in school (up until high school).


Anyway, a bit of advice to people who have a hard time getting a job... you have to continually return to the place you're trying to get a job at. Show them you're interested. Ask to speak with managers/whoever does the hiring. Call them. People who just put an application in and that's it rarely get a job.

[Intentionally Wrong]

[Tokyo Rude]

This thread is in weird places.

[Kappuru]

I originally just wanted to jerkily point out that hikkikomori is spelled wrong. But then I read the thread...

Okay, so I might be perceived as having a lil' of the ol' ego problem around these parts. I really don't but I can definitely see how it comes off that way. That said, take this with a grain of salt. I'm not trying to really boast or brag...

I was supposed to go to Tech for engineering. Dropped a month before classes started, applied to SCAD (art school), got in at the last second, kind of messed around for a bit, and got serious about photo/gfx dsgn.

I held down a job for a good part of my college experience. I'm graduating soon. It's doable. I definitely kind of do the whole "oh, your parents are paying for school, must be a nice life" jealousy thing from time to time. But I'm a hypocrit, because if my parents had the means, i'd be living it up just as much on their credit cards as these kids do.

College is what you make it. Same goes for life. It really doesn't matter where you go to college, unless it's yale/harvard/cornell etc..

Also, I can't imagine living at my parents house for a good amount of time. I've been back for two days and I already wish I was at my own place.
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[SplashBeats]

man i don't live it up at all. i find a spartan lifestyle to be a rather honorable one.

i do indulge in the drink a bit too much though :(

park, you should chill out. you sound like you're really sensitive about your living situation, even if you play it pretty "oh i don't care either way" so maybe you should stop talking about it here?

also yeah being a constant drain on anyone's resources is kind of a shit thing to do. the troops' lifestyle isn't negatively affecting anyone, really. your parents could probably enjoy their twilight in relative comfort without having to feed you!

then again, i don't know your situation. i'm assuming middle-class, where having a dependent is actually a big deal financially. if you parents are rich i'm sure everything will be fine.

ps calling everyone ignorant when someone presents the idea that your lifestyle is a bit unreasonable to those around you is kind of hilarious

[Hot Stott Bot]

[SplashBeats]

yeah, i'm paying solely with loans. though this year i do get some grant money because of my major!

[Hot Stott Bot]

At my school they just shovel how much money everyone and their parents made over the last 4 years and how many gov't loans they can get into a big equation and pump out how much everyone has to pay. The rest is covered by some endowment or another. Very few people have to pay full tuition.

[SplashBeats]

you know, i noticed just now that the hikkikikohiohkihkiomori population of selectbutton talks about their dreams a lot

man, if my dreams were the highlight of my day, i'd want to kill myself

[Hot Stott Bot]

I DON'T REMEMBER MY DREAMS.

;_;

(The ones I do remember, which is very very rare, are very unpleasant...)

[Tokyo Rude]

Same here HSB.

[Dark Age Iron Savior]

dismayed by large amount of people with bad family relations in this topic
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[Toups]

I have vivid dreams every night which I remember for only a few minutes after I wake up.
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[extrabastardformula]

Joe, I find honor to be a sick and selfish concept and hold it in utter contempt. why do you feel like living with your so called honor makes you better than these hikikomori? Perhaps they have honor. Perhaps not. Perhaps you don't care what sort of honor they may have if they are hikikomori.

Fuck you and fuck your so called honor.
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[Zebadayus]

I don't think honor has anything to do with living in your parent's basement or being a shut-in who is too lazy/nervous to get a job.

[Hot Stott Bot]

[Zebadayus]

Also, honor shouldn't even be in this discussion.

It has nothing to do with any of it really.

Seriously.

C'mon.

[Toups]

hey guys. chill out.
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[Hot Stott Bot]

[Zebadayus]

The shut-in lifestyle is being discussed, Toups.

Sensitive topic around these parts I guess.

[SplashBeats]

[taidan]

Hey I should have found this thread a lot earlier.

I graduated three weeks ago with a CS degree, a study I very much enjoyed and can't wait to one day practice as a job. I've been very much frustrated with my status in life, and I've been struggling with determining what to make of it.

Part of it is finding a job. I've been on the lookout for one since March, and since then I've gotten just three rejections and one company that simply can't afford to hire me right now. It is very frustrating to make special arrangements for interviews, send followups, and be a good chum to these companies, only to wait a month or more after the process starts to get a "no", with absolutely no explanation because of fear of lawsuits. The business world is amazingly non confrontational, and I'm almost regretting choosing CS over MIS, because at least those folks were taught how to bullshit an interview well enough.

Part of me is upset with my CS department. Most of the profs at my college are researchers at heart, and since I never enjoyed that (and generally didn't brown nose), they really never had any good leads or advice for me. Now if I had chosen to go to grad school, the situation would be entirely different. But I don't blame them for not shoeing me into a job. What's more frustrating is looking back at their curriculum, and realizing they never had me write any serious amounts of code in my last two years of college. Now I pray that whenever I apply for a programmer position, I haven't forgotten too many things.

Going to a primarily business oriented school doesn't help either, because all the leads I got while on campus were for analyst and managerial positions, which always start the same way come interview time:

-"So you're a computer scientist. Why are you applying for this job?"

And you know replying with "your job posting mentioned an interest in my fucking degree, that's why" just isn't going to cut it.

Despite all of this, I don't like blaming others for my troubles, and I don't like being idle, which is why I'm leaving for Maryland again tomorrow and living as Bohemian as possible at my friend's apartment, looking for work and likely doing something part time while doing so. It won't answer all of my problems - I'm supposed to move into a genuine house with this guy and pay rent in two months - but it'll help me to get away from the boredom of northeast PA and maybe give me some time to see my old college friends.

Now I just have to get rid of my OCD fear that all those friends are ready to betray me. One step at a time.

[parker]

[slipstream]

scaredy cats itt
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[Zebadayus]

Parker you are so angry.

[Ebrey]

[CubaLibre]

Anyone who's being supported by their parents while in college... shouldn't feel ashamed, at all. I mean, that's the point.

It's after college - or if you didn't go at all - where the support starts being a little lame.

If you do have a degree, it is like sick easy to get a job. I mean it might not be in your Field of Choice or whatever but enough to live on your own (maybe with a roommate or two) and buy food and pay your bills and save a little on the side.
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Let's Play, starring me.

[scratchmonkey]

Although supporting yourself in college is a good experience, mainly because you take school a lot more seriously when you're also working a job (and it's usually easier to support yourself in college because hurrah, financial aid and student loans).

[CubaLibre]

It's not a bad thing to do. It's just like, not bad if you don't do it.
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Let's Play, starring me.

[Mr Mustache]

I am superior to others.
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The people are like wool to me

[Hot Stott Bot]

[dessgeega]

oh, you kids. you children.

i had no parents, but sprung into life from the earth and ash underneath a girder in a construction yard. in my first moments of life, i had to lift that girder up and off me, with only my own tiny pink hands. there was no one to help me. those early days i lived in a rolled-up newspaper in the corner of the construction site, only emerging at night to gather scraps left behind from the workers' lunches. after six months, i felt strong enough to work for my sustenance, and i applied for work with the construction team. clad only in the large, discarded boot of a former worker, i hammered rivets into the protean walls by doing flips and kicking the nails into the girders with the sole of my hardy shoe. all of the hardhats were too big for my tiny, near-hairless head. to protect myself from debris i would have to crawl into my shoe and flip over, balancing on the neck of the shoe as the sole weathered the brunt of the debris. in this way we built what is today an office skyscraper, a vital part of the local economy, and when it was completed i realized that, at the age of one year, it was time for me to set off and make my place in this world. i slung a stunned alley cat over my shoulder and hopped down the road in my boot, never to look back.

so remember, friends, as you brag of how you've clawed yourselves by the knuckles of your teeth out of your parents' homes and into the cold, unremitting light of the world, that even such ordeals are as luxuries to a child who wrought her own life with nothing but the boot on her body and the dream in her chest, and be humble.
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[IIOIOOIOO]

Lock thread. It's over.

[Predator Goose]

Really, this thread has just gone some terrible places.
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I can no longer shop happily.

[SplashBeats]

this thread is going great places

die hikeikiokoumori

[Pijaibros]

[parkbench]

above: post of the year.

also: i don't think this thread is evil it's just an argument guys conversations are organic and it happens, let it happen and fizzle out like it tends to do. quit with the meta-commentary.
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