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negativedge
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| Web 2.0 is curvy borders and fancy Javascript. |
And bright colors, high contrast, big text, large icons, shadows, reflections, and gloss. |
...apple? |
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Quick Shot II Turbo
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:20 pm |
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| Broco wrote: |
| Web 2.0 is curvy borders and fancy Javascript. |
AJAX everything and suddenly every little gesture you make becomes an infinitely contextualized stream of data that can and will, eventually, pinpoint your taste in music, fashion, movies; whether or not you will have a nervous breakdown before 4you hit 0 and possibly even the size of your penis, purely because you dared to look up the term 'Size Queen' on Wikipedia.
btw is it just me or are the last.fm plugin downloads broken? Becuase I've been trying to get them from the site and it always redirects me to some widget making interface that I have absolutely no use for.
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BenoitRen
I bought RAM
Joined: 05 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:44 pm |
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| Kappuru wrote: |
| Just because you don't have friends doesn't mean you have to be such a curmudgeon. |
Being an asshole again, I see. First of all, I do have friends. Second of all, putting your bookmarks and photos online will not only make it available to your friends, but THE ENTIRE INTARWEB!
Even if some have privacy options, remember that your data is in the hands of some faceless company that you're blindly trusting.
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| Whenever I read things like "id like to by a new car," I cringe inside, imagine some grunting ape who happened across a keyboard, and move on without thinking about the attempted message. |
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psiga
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Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:45 am |
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| dessgeega wrote: |
| psiga i appreciate the link in your signature. |
Danke.
| negativedge wrote: |
| psiga wrote: |
| Broco wrote: |
| Web 2.0 is curvy borders and fancy Javascript. |
And bright colors, high contrast, big text, large icons, shadows, reflections, and gloss. |
...apple? |
Kinda! Let's see if I can define Web 2.0 for you personally: Come up with a business idea that makes other people do work for you, and hire some design fags to make everything look pretty.
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negativedge
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:03 am |
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| seems like nothing has really changed, then. |
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psiga
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Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:39 am |
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Wait...no, that's not it...
AH!
Let me restate that:
Come up with a business idea that makes other people do work for you for free, and hire some design fags to make everything look pretty.
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slipstream
hates LOTR films
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:24 am |
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| BenoitRen wrote: |
Being an asshole again, I see. First of all, I do have friends. Second of all, putting your bookmarks and photos online will not only make it available to your friends, but THE ENTIRE INTARWEB!
Even if some have privacy options, remember that your data is in the hands of some faceless company that you're blindly trusting. |
What type of foil do you recommend for hats?
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Baron Patsy
whiny, oversensitive, socially awkward
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:41 am |
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| slipstream wrote: |
| BenoitRen wrote: |
Being an asshole again, I see. First of all, I do have friends. Second of all, putting your bookmarks and photos online will not only make it available to your friends, but THE ENTIRE INTARWEB!
Even if some have privacy options, remember that your data is in the hands of some faceless company that you're blindly trusting. |
What type of foil do you recommend for hats? |
I think tin is a good way to go. Nice and cheap, but still effective. |
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sawtooth
heh
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: flashback
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:37 am |
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Web 2.0 is mostly hype.
But Usability, UI, and such have really come into their own lately. |
I agree with this. Unfortunately it all still looks pretty bland, for the most part. Too much plastic/reflection/shiny/white/vowel subtraction.
...Did you see ditech's new logo? What the fuck is up with that leaf? Why is it there? I liked the INTERNET WHOOSH of their web 1.0 logo better (not really, they're both stupid logos)
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Many of the services are silly, though. Share your bookmarks? Your photos? Your files? Dude, we have a hard drive for that, and not everyone needs to look at our bookmarks or our photos. Can we at least maintain a minimum of privacy? |
I want to see people's photos, and lots of people want to share them with everyone, and then I get to pick and choose. Nobody's forcing anything on anyone. People get as much privacy as they ask for, nobody's forcing them to share things on the internet.
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gooktime
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:20 am |
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web 2.0 is better defined as :
Come up with a business idea and hope Google/Yahoo/Microsoft buy it before your money runs out. |
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BenoitRen
I bought RAM
Joined: 05 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:05 pm |
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| sawtooth wrote: |
| I want to see people's photos, and lots of people want to share them with everyone, and then I get to pick and choose. Nobody's forcing anything on anyone. People get as much privacy as they ask for, nobody's forcing them to share things on the internet. |
Unfortunately, most people like this are teenagers that have no idea of the implications of putting something on the Internet. Like, putting photos of you and a friend in underwear on the Internet, publicly viewable for anyone, isn't a smart thing to do.
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| Whenever I read things like "id like to by a new car," I cringe inside, imagine some grunting ape who happened across a keyboard, and move on without thinking about the attempted message. |
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smartblue
Ph. D in Awesome
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:20 pm |
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| I want to see people's photos, and lots of people want to share them with everyone, and then I get to pick and choose. Nobody's forcing anything on anyone. People get as much privacy as they ask for, nobody's forcing them to share things on the internet. |
Unfortunately, most people like this are teenagers that have no idea of the implications of putting something on the Internet. Like, putting photos of you and a friend in underwear on the Internet, publicly viewable for anyone, isn't a smart thing to do. |
I don't think people here will go with that assumption of their contacts and associates in these social networks. Most people here don't need to be parented in how they issue their content private or not. That you have such a negitive view of how the internet is littered with teenagers irresponsibly throwing their nudie shots everywhere sort of points this out to me. I dunno man, just have some faith.
Also, don't let your friends take photos of you in your undies if you don't want them thrown about. That's sort of breaking up at the first step there.
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sawtooth
heh
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:44 pm |
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No, BenoitRen is right about that. We might not think that way about our contacts online, but that leaves millions upon millions of people who may or may not have common sense. Which is why they get fired/demoted/shamed/suspended/etc every time an employer decides to google their employees' names.
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smartblue
Ph. D in Awesome
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:57 pm |
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| sawtooth wrote: |
| No, BenoitRen is right about that. We might not think that way about our contacts online, but that leaves millions upon millions of people who may or may not have common sense. Which is why they get fired/demoted/shamed/suspended/etc every time an employer decides to google their employees' names. |
I guess the optimist in me took over toward the end of my first paragraph. Yeah, you guys are most certainly right about a general lack of common sense on these user content based sites. I still think we can at least all agree that most of us here on this forum can police ourselves.
It's interesting to talk of the downside of the Web 2.0, more along the lines of the consequences of unintentionaly compromised privacy like how your example works.
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gooktime
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:16 am |
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| Have any of you seen the work from 37signals ? they do a lot of great collaboration/productivity web apps, I've been using basecamp a lot for project organisation and it's fantastic. |
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psiga
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Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:12 am |
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| It's interesting to talk of the downside of the Web 2.0, more along the lines of the consequences of unintentionaly compromised privacy like how [BenoitRen's] example works. |
My usually bluntly-honest opinion: To be selfish, short-sighted, tactless, and irresponsible at that age just means that they didn't learn those lessons between ages 0 and 12.
Most online services allow you to set privacy levels on your content, so you can show your half-nekkid pictures to only friends. But what if your friends save those pictures and share them with somebody else? OMG. O M G !
I learned lessons like this in kindergarten. Tell a secret to somebody, that somebody might tell it to somebody else. Then it won't be a secret anymore.
Who teaches a child "Responsibility"? It's one of those issues...
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psiga
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:47 am |
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Digging up this old thread to say that I tried Pandora after its redesign. Maybe they're feeling kinda dejected after the Last.fm acquisition? Anyway, same ol' music-finding engine.
Their new interface is swank, I don't mind the new advertisements on the side, and their efforts to expand the service to Sonos and cell phones is keen. But really, the music engine just isn't strong enough for me.
My usual tests entail picking a song from Live (to see if the service can tell the difference between 'Live' the band, and 'live' the recording session type), then some New Zealand singer that Americans never hear of.
It did manage to find the Live song that I put in, then proceeded to recommend songs that it thinks sound like that song. It basically failed on that last part. Every suggestion was so shitty that I clicked thumbs-down, except for one (ironically) live performance from a band that was popular in the late 90s. Just because I didn't thumbs-down that song didn't mean that I really wanted to hear it, though. Overall, it failed my first test.
Second test, normally I'd put in Lucid 3, but I have a crush on Brooke Fraser these days, so I put her in instead. She's been signed with Sony NZ since 2002, and has toured with John Mayer, so this isn't an indie singer by any means; just a talented person from outside of the good ol' USA USA USA. ...Aaaaaaaand no artist found. So it totally failed my New Zealand test.
Sometimes I might put in a signed Japanese band, or maybe an unsigned American band, but it was already 0 for 2, so I just hung it up.
...No. No, I'm going to go through with all of it.
Put in Susumu Hirasawa, since I've been adoring some of his stuff lately. No artist found.
Put in Paper Route, since they're unsigned but still pretty good downtempo indie to me. It coughed up a Paper Route song! Wow! ...Alas, it is THE WORST ONE THEY'VE MADE. Hahahaha. Literally the only track on the album that I skip every time. Dang! So close, so far. And I'm afraid to click thumbs-down because there's a good chance they'll eliminate the whole band from my playlist, rather than just the song. Next song? Shit. Thumbs down. Next song? ...Good. Wow. I actually thumbs-upped that one. Next song? Another pretty good one to me.
It's actually half-passing my last test so far. Curious!
Next song, one of the good Paper Route songs. 3 goodies in a row. I'm alright with this... Next song... crap. A really ugly downtempo remix of a shouty pop song. I'm just about to reach for the thumbs down, when the song fades out and it says to sign up for freeeeee.
I think I'll passsssss!
Maybe I'll be cooler with this when they let me go in and personally fine-tune my listening desires. By the time I was done tooling with the Paper Route station, it thought that I wanted Electronica Downtempo specifically with male vocals. What if I wanted some female vocals too? If I'd been able to tell it that, I might not have gotten that ugly shouty male-vocal remix.
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Corinth
thatbox
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:54 pm |
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Have you signed up for del.icio.us yet? You've been making passes at it for at least two years now, and you are probably the person on the internet whose del.icio.us RSS feed I'd most like to have.
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| Stage6 - Requires DivX web player. Maybe it's worth installing. I'll pass, though. |
I've never used the DivX web player, as I too doubt it's worth installing. I do, however, use a Greasemonkey script to give me download links to the files it hosts. So if you ever find something on there you want, you could use that. |
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newave
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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Kappuru
forum bishonen
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:54 am |
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stage6 is very nice. the divx web player is also nice, but i wouldn't have installed it if i hadn't been setting up codecs on a brand new osx install.
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psiga
saudade
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:35 am |
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How is that going, by the way? Is the project turning profit yet? Are you still working on the near-the-top floor? Do you miss seeing all of the pimply azn spunkholes?
I see that you've got some named people on there... The XPlay folks (for better or worse), and... Leo Laporte? Seriously?
I checked out Stickam and felt a bit odd watching cute teenaged girls write out people's names on index cards. It streams fast and has nice sound quality, though. Cool stuff, for sure.
If I had a decent webcam, maybe you'd be able to see my super-pale skin and dorky new headphones. Here is an approximation, using my camera's video mode.
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Corinth
thatbox
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:56 am |
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| How do you keep your hair out of your eyes? Maybe I just didn't get mine long enough. |
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psiga
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Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:46 am |
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By keeping it in coils most of the time. ;] After a few days, it starts to get fuzzy or tangled, so I start unraveling the coils here and there. In that picture, it's too messy to go out in public with (looks okay in the dark, though) -- so when I went out for pizza a few minutes after finishing that post, everything went into a ponytail. I'll probably be washing my hair tonight, coiling everything up again as it dries.
HAIR 2.0
Edit: If I pull the hair out, it does start getting in my eyes.
(Ah, the usual "takes eight shots to find one that doesn't make me look COMPLETELY weird" game.)
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Kappuru
forum bishonen
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:28 am |
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I applied.. err.. am applying for a job at stickam! I will be in LA at the end of August for unrelated reasons!
Also, Newave, you should go shooting with me or something.
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psiga
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:39 am |
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Woah! Frickin' sweet. What would you be doing there?
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psiga
saudade
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:51 pm |
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| Have you signed up for del.icio.us yet? You've been making passes at it for at least two years now, and you are probably the person on the internet whose del.icio.us RSS feed I'd most like to have. |
Oup! Sorry, I forgot to respond to this.
When I finally tried to sign up to del.icio.us, it gave me inscrutable errors which were due to their own side. (Bitchfucks, don't send me an email with an invalid sign-up confirmation link.) I gave up in exasperation. Might try again some day.
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psiga
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psiga
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Corinth
thatbox
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:19 pm |
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I thought we already knew that via newave! |
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psiga
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:36 pm |
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We did, but now the rest of the outsiders know as well.
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