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dhex
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| there's a million things like this website to rub their backs and tell them they have worthwhile opinions. |
just wanted to say i'm stealing this phrasing for discussions on this topic in the future. sweetly succinct. |
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dhex
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dhex
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:54 pm |
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| the folks at illegal art sometimes snort too much adbusters and forget that a parody is a parody and not really the most powerful weapon earth has ever known. |
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dhex
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:15 am |
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| it just raises the obvious potential that as millions network, stupidity can be passed as easily as useful information. |
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dhex
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:56 am |
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| The net effect is that the 'democratization' of the web is making a boiler-room of agitation and evolution for the people who had no voice at all in the past. |
and thusly we get 69 references for kingdom hearts.
edit: i hate to use something as predictable as "cargo cult science" but that's what 69 references for kingdom hearts is. have you seen the refs? having lots of references doesn't make a resource useful or particularly professional.
wikipedia is a great resource for entertainment. or if i need to explain terms like "ethnography" it's an encyclopedia anyone can reach. very convenient. but not very trustworthy. |
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dhex
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:07 pm |
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| If the professionals claim that they are better in part because they are well-referenced, then being well-referenced may be considered an act of professionalism. It is relative to the individual's definition of professionalism. |
and the cargo cult part of this jibe is that the kingdom hearts writer(s) seem to think that many references = good referencing. which is fine for wikipedia, but that's not exactly saying a lot.
but i don't think its elitist to say that sometimes there are people who are experts and there are those who are not, and an encyclopedia made up of 50,000 non-experts may indeed be less valuable than one written by 1000 experts in various fields.
this may be crazy talk in the web 2.0 era, but 15 minutes of myspace or livejournal is a cheap, if effective, way of making the same point. (or the unabomber's point for that matter)
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| Trusting any encyclopedia would be, indeed, Cargo Cult Science. |
that's not what the term means.
http://wwwcdf.pd.infn.it/~loreti/science.html
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| I think the educational and psychological studies I mentioned are examples of what I would like to call cargo cult science. In the South Seas there is a cargo cult of people. During the war they saw airplanes with lots of good materials, and they want the same thing to happen now. So they've arranged to make things like runways, to put fires along the sides of the runways, to make a wooden hut for a man to sit in, with two wooden pieces on his head to headphones and bars of bamboo sticking out like antennas -- he's the controller -- and they wait for the airplanes to land. They're doing everything right. The form is perfect. It looks exactly the way it looked before. But it doesn't work. No airplanes land. So I call these things cargo cult science, because they follow all the apparent precepts and forms of scientific investigation, but they're missing something essential, because the planes don't land. |
trust is a continuum, to be sure. that's got fuckall to do with with the original author's (somewhat misguided, somewhat real) fear of passion being a replacement for intelligence and research.
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| could you imagine what people shooting up reason.com would produce? |
that's already been answered:
he did a real good job on bill moyer's pbs joint a few weeks back, actually. and npr loves him to death despite not being able to see the sideburns/jacket combo. (pow pow) |
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