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aderack
Joined: 12 Dec 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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 Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:52 pm Post subject: Revenge of the Nipple |
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Oh my God. Pending appeal, the FCC suddenly no longer has the right to regulate language. How did this happen while Bush was still in office?
The quotes from the FCC are delightfully surreal.
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“I completely disagree with the court’s ruling and am disappointed for American families,” he said. “The court says the commission is ‘divorced from reality.’ It is the New York court, not the commission, that is divorced from reality.”
He said that if the agency was unable to prohibit some vulgarities during prime time, “Hollywood will be able to say anything they want, whenever they want.” |
Which obviously means they will!
And if they do, our Children will DIE. And turn gay.
AND THEN:
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| “What we have is at most a difference of opinion between a court and an agency,” Judge Leval said. “Because of the deference courts must give to the reasoning of a duly authorized administrative agency in matters within the agency’s competence, a court’s disagreement with the commission on this question is of no consequence. The commission’s position is not irrational; it is not arbitrary and capricious.” |
"We do not recognize the authority of this court." Oh, that's amazing.
In case we're wondering about exactly how loopy the FCC's guidelines are...
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| Two years ago, Congress increased the potential maximum penalty for each indecency infraction to $325,000, from $32,500. Producers and writers have complained that the prospect of stiff fines had begun to chill their creative efforts. |
So... yes. |
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The Troops
Joined: 20 Feb 2007
Location: Providence
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:09 pm |
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The FCC can suck my manly, vein-mapped cock. Also shit, fuck, nigger, etc.
It seems like ever since the Broadcast Flag Saga, they've been losing their ability to do much of anything. We are pleased. |
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Mr. Apol
king of zembla
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: a curiously familiar pit
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:14 pm |
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i thought this was going to be about more pictures of your curiously erect nipples eric
but i guess this is pretty cool too
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aderack
Joined: 12 Dec 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:27 pm |
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| I think that shirt has a lot of friction. |
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DJ
Shaman Analyst
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:52 pm |
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Oh this is excellent.
Of course, even so, I doubt it'll mean you'll be seeing shows named "Tyrone Fucks Mad Bitches, Nigga" on the WB anytime soon.
Technically, ANY cable station that isn't available over the air is free from FCC mandate. Comedy Central could show hardcore porn if they really felt like it. The only thing holding them back are advertisers, which is where they make all their money (unlike "premium" cable networks, which are generally commercial-free). So, there's no actual rule saying HBO can show things the Cartoon Network can't; Cartoon Network's advertisers can opt to pull their sponsorship, though.
So, even if the FCC can't regulate obscenities on-air, it probably won't mean a whole lot if advertisers don't grow some proportional balls.
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fairy godmilf
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: oakland, california
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:05 am |
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MILK: IT DOES A GEEK-ASS BITCH BODY GOOD -- HARD-MOTHERFUCKER-STYLE
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The Drunken Samurai
tedious
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:09 am |
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| 108 wrote: |
| MILK: IT DOES A GEEK-ASS BITCH BODY GOOD -- HARD-MOTHERFUCKER-STYLE |
TELL EM YOU FUCKING GAY MILF
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Mr. Apol
king of zembla
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: a curiously familiar pit
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:45 am |
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| Eric-Jon Rössel Waugh wrote: |
| I think that shirt has a lot of friction. |
hurt me more
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aderack
Joined: 12 Dec 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:51 am |
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| DeusJester wrote: |
| Of course, even so, I doubt it'll mean you'll be seeing shows named "Tyrone Fucks Mad Bitches, Nigga" on the WB anytime soon. |
Right. Which is exactly why, even assuming this were a real problem, we wouldn't need something like the FCC jumping up everyone's ass. The market will tend to regulate itself. The FCC isn't supposed to be the moral police; it's supposed to make sure broadcasters use the right parts of the spectrum and don't step on each other's toes.
Still, knowing that they won't get sued for over three hundred fucking thousand dollars for every swear word is a pretty nice weight off the networks. A good start.
EDIT: I'd actually not mind watching that show. It sounds... honest. |
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Zebadayus
pelvis othello
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:35 am |
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hurt me more |
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psiga
saudade
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:52 am |
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| 108 wrote: |
| MILK: IT DOES A GEEK-ASS BITCH BODY GOOD -- HARD-MOTHERFUCKER-STYLE |
When the FCC caves, will you start swearing out loud in person?
Also: Yes, I thought this would be about the nipple shirt. But honestly this is better news.
Also: Cuntmonkeys.
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extrabastardformula
millmuck holecutter
Joined: 01 Jan 2007
Location: The Nearest Faraway Place
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:58 am |
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psiga, what romhack is that mario in your sig from
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psiga
saudade
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:44 am |
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| extrabastardformula wrote: |
| psiga, what romhack is that mario in your sig from |
S'a little complex to explain...
Some lass made a Mario ROM hack as a work of "art." http://www.year01.com/mario/ I found it to be shallow and silly.
Indie game news site, Ludonauts, wrote a story about the ROM hack. http://www.ludonauts.com/2004/04/02/just-go-for-a-walk-non-competitive-gaming/ The author wrote a quote that, to me, is more artistic than the ROM hack itself.
So I recreated the scene, faced Mario in the "wrong" direction, used black SMB1 sprites, and plopped in that quote.
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boojiboy7
narcissistic irony-laden twat
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: take me on a blatant doom trip.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:47 am |
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| my disappointment about the lack of nipple shirt coverage is making my one not inverted nipple like rock solid. well, that or the coldness of cleveland. |
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Maztorre
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: Ireland
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:11 am |
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| how do you get an inverted nipple? breathing in too hard? |
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Tokyo Rude
Joined: 28 Mar 2007
Location: I'm on the phone Derrick!
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:48 pm |
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| This is fucking cool. Does this mean Jerkcity will now be on ABC? |
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Predator Goose
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
Location: Oversensitive Pedantic Ninny
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:53 pm |
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I think this is terrible news. It will rob the word "fuck" of what little power it has left.
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shrugtheironteacup
man of tomorrow
Joined: 06 Dec 2006
Location: a meat
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:11 pm |
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| Maztorre wrote: |
| how do you get an inverted nipple? breathing in too hard? |
I had a girlfriend with an inverted nipple.
She also had this weird nub on the side of her pinky that was some crazy bundle of bonus nerves.
I think you get an inverted nipple by being some sort of mutant. :(
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Pijaibros
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: Casino Night Zone
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:49 pm |
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| I think this is terrible news. It will rob the word "fuck" of what little power it has left. |
Fuck has power left? In the last 10 years the word fuck, has about as much power as "gosh darn". It only serves to increase the power level of the word after it. Nobody bats an eye upon hearing it, even at family restaurants. We can thank Hollywood for mainstreaming that word for us.
The new forbidden words are all racial. When I can turn on the television and see a black New York detective accusing "those sheister hooknoses" of burning down his mother's bakery for the insurance money, I know we will be in a new era of creative expression.
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Takashi
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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Zebadayus
pelvis othello
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:18 pm |
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| I think shit is the most powerful curse at the moment. |
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Corinth
thatbox
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:20 pm |
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| NPR yesterday made this sound like it mostly just applied to blurted obscenities on live TV, which isn't nearly as wonderful but is at least a start. Hopefully I am wrong! |
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DJ
Shaman Analyst
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:12 pm |
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Meanwhile NPR can curse up a storm. They were reading a play on-air and the first line was "I'm wipin' out all yo shit, muthafucka".
I've always found that sorta awesome.
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CubaLibre
the road lawyer
Joined: 02 Mar 2007
Location: Balmer
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:49 pm |
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Let's not get our titties in a twist. I hate the FCC with a burning passion that none of you can comprehend, but they still have the power to regulate language as they have been doing.
The judgment is against a new "fleeting obscenity" rule that was put in place during the Bush administration. Previously, the FCC would give a little leeway to what was said during live broadcasts, because the broadcasters have less control over what gets said. With the new "fleeting" clause, they could fine broadcasters full-price for some stupid shit Nicole Ritchie said on accident.
The grounds for the judgment was that the rule was "too vague" and had no precedent in the FCC's own enforcement, which is a damn fair ruling - the FCC deliberately makes its rules as vague as possible in order to punish as broadly as it likes. It's a horrifying abuse of federal power and I'm glad someone finally called them on it. Too bad it's only for this limited case, though.
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aderack
Joined: 12 Dec 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:16 pm |
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| NPR yesterday made this sound like it mostly just applied to blurted obscenities on live TV, which isn't nearly as wonderful but is at least a start. Hopefully I am wrong! |
That's what it originally addressed, yes. Apparently the ruling goes all the way, though. You notice how the article also discusses scripted expletives. |
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sawtooth
heh
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: flashback
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:52 pm |
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This quote:
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“What we have is at most a difference of opinion between a court and an agency,” Judge Leval said. “Because of the deference courts must give to the reasoning of a duly authorized administrative agency in matters within the agency’s competence, a court’s disagreement with the commission on this question is of no consequence. The commission’s position is not irrational; it is not arbitrary and capricious.”
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sounds amazing. Does a bureaucracy somehow have power over courts? I mean, this is a judge saying it, so there must be some truth here.
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And if they do, our Children will DIE. And turn gay.
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think of the dead gay children ;__;
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CubaLibre
the road lawyer
Joined: 02 Mar 2007
Location: Balmer
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:57 pm |
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Courts are bureaucracies, too.
I'm not sure about the precedent of the judiciary ruling on the actions of executive agencies, but it's my impression that typically they can. You can sue the government, after all, and it can be forced to make amends by the courts. Generally speaking, when it comes to "checks and balances," the buck stops at the Supreme Court.
More unbiased opinions will have to be found!
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CubaLibre
the road lawyer
Joined: 02 Mar 2007
Location: Balmer
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:59 pm |
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Also, the content of that quote is interesting. Leaving aside the fact that the FCC's position is irrational, arbitrary and capricious - even if it weren't, would that change things somehow? He seems to be saying that because it's not arbitrary and capricious, the court can hold no sway. But isn't it the court's decision, whether or not it's arbitrary and capricious? Isn't that the whole point?
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