[GcDiaz]

If you didn't know, the DVD screener was leaked earlier this week. I DID NOT see it yesterday from the comfort of my own fold-out computer chair. I DO NOT have the following opinions on this film:

Fuck Nixon, fuck HMO's in general, and fuck these cocksucking motherfuckers who take a health system and fuck it up for everyone in the name of simple fucking greed.

Moore is very given to emotional exploitation. He's got that disgusting habit of leaving the camera focused on whoever looks the saddest, just to make his point. It's clear that his movies are NOT simple documentaries, but have a definite slant. So, I learned a while back to just ignore the tear-jerking and focus on the actual facts being presented. I'm happy to say that he only did the "sad crying person" gimmick once, and early in the film. The rest of it is pretty straightforward. My brothers, this film is the stuff revolutions are made of. Devastating. Shocking. Painful, when it dawns on you just how much shit we've put up with over the years. I urge every one of you to see it, legally or otherwise. And if you're gonna download it, get your parents in the room so they can watch it with you.
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[Lick Meth]

Due to coming from England, I can honestly say that I have absolutely no idea what you've had to put up with. And now I can find out!

Also, it dawned upon me that I'd probably never be able to live in any other country, due to the cost of my medication that I *need* to live (example: one of my anti-rejection drugs costs around £350, which is around $700 per packet of 50, which lasts about a week).

[Daphaknee]

i am going to NOT WATCH this movie right now

[GcDiaz]

You know, I'm as capitalist as they come. I believe in free markets, and as little gubmint involvement as possible. We as human beings HAVE the ability to regulate ourselves and vote with our wallets, which is what I think government sometimes (conveniently) forgets. Having said that, healthcare is just one of things that should be a birthright. I really would not object to having our tax dollars redirected this way (I do oppose more taxes, because I think the gubmint gets enough of our cash already and they could just spend it better instead of adding more).

Do you know how a people can make the most progress in their lives? When they don't have to worry about acts of God. When they don't have to worry about the "what if's". That's all we have now. I currently pay $108/month for health insurance (job covers the rest). I haven't been to a doctor in a long time, but I still have it, just in case. Now that's $108 every month that could go towards food, or beer, or whatever. Instead it is SUPPOSED to go towards my peace of mind, but really (and Sicko illustrates this like you wouldn't believe), if something terrible happened, I'm still not assured the best quality of care, and I know I'll have to deal with copays and possible coverage denials. The punch to the face may hurt less, but I'll still be missing teeth.

I'll hold off until you people see the movie and can argue back, if you're so inclined.
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Movies SICKO - MICHAEL MOORE - COMEDY

[PianoMap]

I like Canada.


I don't really like Michael Moore. At all. He's got a good point, sure, but from the point of view of a person who lives outside the US, it's kind of an obvious point. I realize that only applies to me and other folks living with free health care, but take that "shocking truth" away from the film [or any of his films] and all you have is a pile of propoganda that makes me want to puke.

Motherfucker made Charlton Heston look like a complete prick in BFC. Conveniently forgot to mention the dude had fuckin' Alzheimer's when he made him a bad guy for not remembering something.
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[Daphaknee]

I so hope that Michael Moore becomes the new stalin
he is so good at manipulating the media and PROPAGANADA

[yellowoystercult]

[Broco]

[GcDiaz]

Yeah, I know. Like I said, I focus on the facts that are shown, not the facts as he tells them to me. He's far from my only source on ANYTHING (in fact I have a bootleg of Farenhype 9/11 in the box for his F9-11 movie; between the two it's like building a teepee). The audio, the video, the documentation and testimonials all speak for themselves; his commentary on them means nothing to me.
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[DonMarco]

These aren't documentaries. Anything this fat socialist weasel produces is closer to a music video than a History channel video report. It's slanted, edited and ABOVE ALL persuasive. Entertaining, really. Hell, it's almost like having a sucessfully profitable release is more important than an honest, boring ride through subject matter most of us already know and hate.
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[elvis.shrugged]

Saying I hate Michael Moore itt

Also saying that health care is pretty fucked up everywhere itt
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[Wall of Beef]

I just DIDNT WATCH THIS, so I am going to make opinions out of the blue about it.

I feel pretty stongly in saying its probably the most important film that any american could watch this year. I can fully understand arguments against F:9/11 or Bowling for Columbine, but this movie address an issue that EVERYONE can relate to and even if Moichael Moore does smudge some facts, it does not matter, because it does what it was meant to do. Which is make you loathe the American Medical system, and demand free health care, and there is NO reason not too. No reason what so ever.
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[Quick Shot II Turbo]

You guys sure do look unhealthy compared to us Europeans in that film :(

But yeah, I definitely enjoyed it. It was a bit uncomfortable at first, but after a while I honestly didn't really care if his facts were bent in more ways than one, because it was entertaining and fun to watch. It made me feel hopeful that you guys might eventually have better means to obtain healthcare without paying an arm and a leg -- literally.

The Cuban segment had me rolling my eyes a little too much, though.

So, any chance that this film will have a positive influence? Or will it end up being nothing more than a statement?
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[evnvnv]

really the only thing i have against Michael Moore is that he has made everybody forget what documentary films are.

This isn't because he 'doesn't make documentaries.' it's because he does.

I think his influence on the genre has been very complicated, in that it has pretty much reinvigorated/reinvented it for a new generation of budgetless filmmakers. but a lot of what has come out of that has been pretty mediocre. then again most films are mediocre, and there have been some pretty good documentaries recently as well.

if anything, what keeps michael moore's films from being strict documentaries to me is that he focuses a little bit TOO MUCH on "facts." whether or not they are true is kind of another issue.

[Tokyo Rude]

Doctors like how much money they make.

[ajutla]

yeah, i'm a medical student, right, and last year i was in a class that consisted of me and maybe 20 other medical students and we were talking about healthcare and i made some comment like "doctors make way too much money to begin with" and you'd think i had personally insulted everyone's grandmothers or something

i am (NOT) downloading this movie right now

i like michael moore because i usually agree with him so therefore watching his movies makes me feel like i'm right

i suspect this is why he makes all the money that he does

[haircute]

America's healthcare system makes me very sad and scared.
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[Ratoslov]

[Broco]

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[Ratoslov]

[DonMarco]

[boojiboy7]

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wait Marco are you for real
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[boojiboy7]

i hope so.

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I think you guys, uh, didn't get it.
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[boojiboy7]

lol

[yellowoystercult]

All right, so I just watched it.

He's still Michael Moore, and this is a Michael Moore film through and through. I don't know what I was expecting.

He had me when he was focusing on individual stories and testimony and what have you, but as soon as he started editorializing, the horseshit just started piling up. The whole section during which Moore glorifies France's socialist practices is pretty misleading. He makes a point -- twice -- of mentioning how wonderful France's educational system is and that the French don't have to pay for college. And while the idea sounds well and good when Michael Moore's smugly asking why the States doesn't have a similar program, the fact of the matter is that France's higher educational system is severely lacking. I studied in Toulouse last spring, and I saw the university system first-hand. Teachers are underpaid, schools are understaffed and underfunded, resources are limited, and students are incredibly unhappy -- it's far from the socialist paradise that Moore would lead us to believe.

[Ebrey]

The frustrating thing about Michael Moore is that his movies could still be pretty entertaining even if he didn't lie his ass off.

[DonMarco]

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[boojiboy7]

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so seriously, is this DVD-screener-rip a good rip? does it look good? file size? does it have that "THIS IS A DVD SCREENER" bullshit stamped onto it over and over again.

also, protip: if you think of moore's stuff as comedy mockumentaries about societies that don't exist, they work so much better -- they're fuckin' brilliant, in fact.

torrenting "bowling for columbine" over here because i've never seen it!
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