chris benoit is dead

Vikram Ray · Joined: 06 Dec 2006

I don't know if there are any people here who used to be fans of professional wrestling and would therefore care about this, or not, but Chris Benoit and his wife and son were found dead in their home today. This guy was a fucking legend and it's a goddamn enormous loss. RIP.

Toto · Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Australia

What the hell?
Were they murdered, or was it a double suicide or what?
Fuck that's big news.

klj5j6li · Guest

this is the weirdest news story i think i've ever seen

Kappuru · forum bishonen Joined: 05 Dec 2006

I thought benoitren was dead, for a second.
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GalaxyHead · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:57 am

klj5j6li · Guest

Well Phil Hartman was pretty straight forward, wasn't it? I mean yeah it was horrible, but pretty straight forward.

Wikipedia is saying that neither of the three were shot or stabbed, so it's just like whaaa?

boojiboy7 · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:58 am

Yeah, this is really odd. The one story i saw on it said that all the police would state was that it WASN't a shooting. Very odd to state that, i think.

GalaxyHead · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:03 am

klj5j6li · Guest

i don't know man this is some phoenix wright shit right here

Vikram Ray · Joined: 06 Dec 2006

guys Jake 'the Snake' Roberts outlived Chris Benoit. the world is a cruel and lonely place.

username · Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: parts unknown

"The station said that investigators believe the 40-year-old Benoit killed his wife, Nancy, and 7-year-old son, Daniel, over the weekend, then himself on Monday. A neighbor called police, and the bodies were found in three rooms."

Chris Benoit is probably my favorite wrestler of all time, but if true I hope there is a special place in hell for him.
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Vikram Ray · Joined: 06 Dec 2006

My guess is one too many hits to the head. He obviously went completely bonkers. I can't quite damn him to hell for something that was probably beyond his control. or maybe that's just wishful thinking. I just can't believe the guy who nobody on the earth has ever said a bad word about before is suddenly a ruthless killer.

108 · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:50 am

username · Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: parts unknown

All the details so far are this.

The police/investigators at a press conference Monday evening said that it was a double murder/suicide, with Chris benoit killing his wife and child over the weekend and himself on Monday morning. Autopsy takes place Tuesday morning. Police found the "instruments of death" on site, but won't say what they are. They confirmed that it wasn't a shooting or a stabbing.

The chilling part is that the early timeline is that he killed his wife on Saturday, killed his 7 year old son on Sunday, and himself on Monday. If true, it takes a remarkably evil man to sit around for a period of time after killing his wife when he almost certainly had to debate killing his son, which he eventually does.

He missed a ppv Sunday night where he was gonna win a third tier world title (don't ask), which was odd giving that he doesn't miss events ever (18+ years as a wrestler). The company on air said it was for personal reasons, but it is seeming that this was a cover as they just couldn't quite reach him. Apparently this would only be half true as a number of... odd messges he sent his friends in the company Sunday bothered them enough to get a WWE vice president of something to call the police near Benoit house to do a check-up on him, which they did the next day.

That's pretty much it for now. Fucked up story.
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chriservin22 · Joined: 29 May 2007 Location: Portland, OR

I... wow.

Benoit was (it feels weird writing in the past tense) one of the few people I still cared about in the pro wrestling world. However you feel about the current state of 'sports entertainment' -- I can't imagine many people legitimately enjoying the drivel Vince & co. are producing nowadays -- I do not begrudge the people making their careers from it. One has to really love wrestling to accept the constant physical, financial, and psychological punishment that goes with the territory. Yet no one loved wrestling like Benoit loved wrestling, and I realize now that I loved him - as much as a lapsed wrestling fan can love a person they've never met.

It feels like he was the last link to an older tradition of wrestling, too. As far as I know, he was the last active wrester who trained with Stu Hart.

I'm going to have to find my old copy of WCW/NWO Revenge now. I need to see a series of German suplexes.

Endless · Joined: 31 Jan 2007

I know a lot of guys who watch wrestling and I sometimes get coerced into enjoying it as well. Back in the day, Chris Benoit was one of a handful of WCW superstars who made me give half a shit about sweaty staged theatrical fighting as an unknown Middle Schooler.

The Canadian wrestlers were always my favorites. Sad to see another one go the way of Owen Hart.

Oh hey, username. Most people who run out and kill their family and then themselves do so out of some intense mental breakdown, as opposed to, you know, killing everyone for the heck of it.

You ass.
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wackodave · Joined: 24 Dec 2006

This is crazy.

gooktime · Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: no

Well, I bet Vince isn't too pleased.

Ashura · Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: Far East of Eden

With the whole faking his death thing going on? Yeah.

Teflon · Joined: 11 Jan 2007

Police are still investigating what has already been referred to as the bloodiest suplex killing spree since the Metro City Massacre 18 years ago.

The movie rights are going to be worth a fortune.

taidan · Joined: 05 Dec 2006

I've also heard a few people rumbling about how this event has "exposed" the WWE since Vince had to come out of his fake death plot to honor Chris, and now the face of the industry will be changed now that everyone "knows" it is fake. Had anyone heard something along these lines? I'm kind of curious about it.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:29 pm

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Yeah, I was going to say something about the nature of good and evil, but I just think you guys should drop it. Let username use the word "evil" if he wants, he's not necessarily being an ass for it, and drawing attention to the subject distracts from the actual story.

Edit: Incorrectly referenced "endless" as being the one who originally used the word evil. Fixed it.
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Waffen · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Location: straining on a toilet

I've never heard of the guy (I watched a little wrestling back in college about 8 years ago when Stone Cold was in his prime) but the whole thing is weird.
I imagine he strangled them or snapped their necks if he didn't shoot or stab them.

I wonder if he did any weird stuff with his deceased wife.
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boojiboy7 · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:12 pm

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Waffen · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Location: straining on a toilet

hmm

murdering innocent people = evil

mmkay?
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Waffen · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Location: straining on a toilet

he could have just been giving his wife a hug and didn't know his own strength and accidentally crushed her like a grape.

then, like you said, riddled with guilt kills the kid a day later then pumps a bunch of iron and does his last rep and then hangs himself.
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boojiboy7 · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:47 pm

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boojiboy7 · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:16 pm

Fort90: Yeah, I can see that. It is a very weird world to be involved in. But even as such, Benoit seemed almost sane for a wrestler.

Waffen: Saying a person is insane is not saying he is blameless. In fact, in my mind it tneds to imply a degree of blame, as he didn't get thinks taken care of before it became a problem.

To say that he is evil simply because he is rich and killed people is just stupid.

To say that someone who murders someone who is innocent is evil is also quite problematic. Look at any war.

parkbench · Joined: 12 Dec 2006

The evillitude is only muddled by the fact that it's done under orders in a war. So, innocent people dying in a bombing in Baghdad or what have you is evil but not as simple as a man with a revolver; it's layered evillitude; evil with buffers and layers to make it socially acceptable.
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boojiboy7 · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:18 pm

Waffen · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Location: straining on a toilet

I think a guy stuffing a revolver in his wife's/kid's/mother's mouth and looking them in the eye and pulling the trigger is more evil than a guy 20,000 feet in the air wearing a flight suit flipping a switch thinking he's dropping bombs on an anthrax factory.
maybe his commanders are evil because they knew the intended target was close to civilians but as a whole I don't think our military makes a habit out of wasting billions of dollars of weaponry just to kill innocent, albiet worthless civilians.
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