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boojiboy7
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| i'm just pointing out that i thought the movie was really funny, and thus how i enjoyed it. |
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Toptube
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:08 am |
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| moving to a black background post to preserve the spoiler* |
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Toptube
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I didn't like the villain. I hate villains that just sit behind scenes and say words like launch and initiate and begin--the same fucking word.
though, I did like how he would call out his henchmen for being pussies.
also **spoiler** virus that turns computers into bombs wtf
other than that though, the movie was highly enjoyable, and a couple of the stunts were things that i've never really seen in a movie yet. namely the fire hydrant. 7 out of 10. |
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another god
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:13 am |
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well, i guess it is a spoiler, but i also have to correct you:
**whoa whoa whoa***
the badguys just use the computers as a detonation device. there are exlosives wired to the computers. probably put there by the foreign operatives.
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boojiboy7
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:25 am |
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| another god wrote: |
well, i guess it is a spoiler, but i also have to correct you:
**whoa whoa whoa***
the badguys just use the computers as a detonation device. there are exlosives wired to the computers. probably put there by the foreign operatives. |
or you know, these hackers are so hardcore that they wire explosives to their shit but then forget about that. |
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Toptube
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:35 am |
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they never showed the badguys wiring explosives to the computers. which led me to believe it was a virus, and hoped the audience would roll with it.
also, why go to all of the trouble to sneak in wire explosives to kill someone, just fucking shoot em. I think it was a virus, or possibly hardcore hackers forgetting to wrap their bombs in layers of secure code. |
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Faithless
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:55 am |
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Yeah, there's a close-up of C4 inside of one of the hard drives. Which was detonated when the hackers pressed Control-Alt-Delete. Why not shoot them? Because to blow up the computer TAUGHT THEM A LESSON.
Yep.
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XORDYH
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:29 am |
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Yeah, there's a close-up of C4 inside of one of the hard drives. Which was detonated when the hackers pressed Control-Alt-Delete. Why not shoot them? Because to blow up the computer TAUGHT THEM A LESSON.
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Or you know, the bad guys were trying to remove any evidence of what the hackers had been contracted to do for them. I know this is a Die Hard movie, but they do get some small bits of plot right. And yeah, they showed the C4 close up at least twice.
Of course, this is a Die Hard movie, so nitpicking about the plot in anyway is completely futile and defeats the purpose of the film, which is to be an enjoyable, mindless, manly action flick. |
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shrugtheironteacup
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:47 am |
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| internisus wrote: |
wtf XXX sucked ass =(
Riddick was amazing though; with that and the Iron Giant, Vin's ok in my book. |
I can't think of a single action movie that came before XXX that was as intentionally manly. I mean, the main character is a professional stunt driver asshole. It may not have been executed properly, but the entire thing was ridiculousness on top of ridiculousness. Until XXX it seemed like Hollywood took its action movies seriously, and, well, that fucking sucked. |
You must be from one of those parallel dimensions where Arnold Schwarzenegger didn't make a single movie in the eighties. You should rent it before returning. |
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Saying that now is like saying that 80s metal was ironic. |
I am saying that most Arnold movies were very much in a "look how manly this guy is oh shit" vein.
My beloved Predator is a "look how manly ALL THESE GUYS are oh shit they're getting torn to bits my erection is flagging".
And comments by McTeirnan (apropos to a Die Hard thread!) confirm that this was pretty intentional.
And most of these films weren't nearly as shitty as as XXX.
All XXX did was inject some "umm.. XTREME?" into a very staid dumb action movie. Whatever anyone's intentions it didn't do anything new.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:52 am |
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| boojiboy7 wrote: |
| i'm just pointing out that i thought the movie was really funny, and thus how i enjoyed it. |
well the humor of the movie wasn't my problem with Live Free or Die Hard, although it wasn't my thing.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:06 am |
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I think the part in XxX where Vin Diesel stares at a brick wall with binoculars is a subtle message about the movie.
This thread makes me want to see Live Free or Die Hard now. |
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another god
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:18 am |
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| shrugtheironteacup wrote: |
| another god wrote: |
| shrugtheironteacup wrote: |
| DonMarco wrote: |
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| internisus wrote: |
wtf XXX sucked ass =(
Riddick was amazing though; with that and the Iron Giant, Vin's ok in my book. |
I can't think of a single action movie that came before XXX that was as intentionally manly. I mean, the main character is a professional stunt driver asshole. It may not have been executed properly, but the entire thing was ridiculousness on top of ridiculousness. Until XXX it seemed like Hollywood took its action movies seriously, and, well, that fucking sucked. |
You must be from one of those parallel dimensions where Arnold Schwarzenegger didn't make a single movie in the eighties. You should rent it before returning. |
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Saying that now is like saying that 80s metal was ironic. |
I am saying that most Arnold movies were very much in a "look how manly this guy is oh shit" vein.
My beloved Predator is a "look how manly ALL THESE GUYS are oh shit they're getting torn to bits my erection is flagging".
And comments by McTeirnan (apropos to a Die Hard thread!) confirm that this was pretty intentional.
And most of these films weren't nearly as shitty as as XXX.
All XXX did was inject some "umm.. XTREME?" into a very staid dumb action movie. Whatever anyone's intentions it didn't do anything new. |
I haven't seen the movie for almost half a decade now, but XXX wasn't just extreme for the sake of being XTREME. That Austin Powers was mentioned made me laugh because XXX took the complete opposite route. Sure there was a lot of guns and violence and excess manly-man-man ness. I'm going to try to pull at your inner Insert-Credit-Poster sensibilities and say that XXX was entirely self aware in every ridiculous thing that it did. And you know what? Guns and violence and Asia Argento are fucking awesome.
What was really cool was how macho it was. Vin Diesel fights a nuclear speedboat with a muscle car and a rocket launcher.
I'm not saying you have to like the movie. I actually don't think it's extreme enough, and it's been far outdone by its modern equivalents. It's just interesting as a movie that dissects just what action movie cool is. I don't think we would've gotten a movie like Casino Royale if it weren't for XXX and its ilk.
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DonMarco
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:25 am |
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Totally not off-topic, but did the trailer for The Rock's The Game Plan remind you of either Vin Diesel's The Pacifier or Ben Affleck's Jersey Girl?
| boojiboy7 wrote: |
| i'm just pointing out that i thought the movie was really funny, and thus how i enjoyed it. |
And not just one-liner's and quips! But nerd humor and real slapstick. Like breaking a grown man's figurine doll or smashing the asian chick over her head with a laptop.
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| I don't think we would've gotten a movie like Casino Royale if it weren't for XXX and its ilk. |
I don't think we would have gotten a Casino Royale movie if the Casino Royale book wasn't written back in 1953. Fuck you, another god!!
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boojiboy7
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:26 pm |
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| lol don marco flip out. |
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another god
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:29 pm |
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So... I like XXX. How about you guys?
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CubaLibre
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:35 pm |
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McClane Vs. a Jet was True Lies.
I did not like McClane v Jet.
BUT THE REST OF THE MOVIE WAS MUCH GOODER. |
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CubaLibre
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:39 pm |
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Best part of LFoDH was when (spoilers I guess) the parkour dude falls into the grinders and McClane goes "Awwwwhohoho man!" in that isn't-that-gross-but-awesome way that you do when you watch like a Friday the 13th movie.
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kiken
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| DonMarco wrote: |
| Totally not off-topic, but did the trailer for The Rock's The Game Plan remind you of either Vin Diesel's The Pacifier or Ben Affleck's Jersey Girl |
Yep.. sadly he has now passed into Disney-fied territory.
Also, despite the True Lies-ness of the McClane vs plane bit.. the very fact that it was the awesome VTOL Joint Strike Fighter made it better. |
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XORDYH
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Also, despite the True Lies-ness of the McClane vs plane bit.. the very fact that it was the awesome VTOL Joint Strike Fighter made it better. |
That, and the fact that apparently despite all the billions of dollars and years of research that have gone into the JSF, its weapons systems can't successfully target a GIANT ASS SEMI-TRUCK. |
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elvis.shrugged
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:34 am |
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I passed my license exam today.
My first order of business, after getting said license, is to make plans to see this with a friend.
Also--Faithless, why are you the single coolest girl person ever?
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haze
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Also, despite the True Lies-ness of the McClane vs plane bit.. the very fact that it was the awesome VTOL Joint Strike Fighter made it better. |
That, and the fact that apparently despite all the billions of dollars and years of research that have gone into the JSF, its weapons systems can't successfully target a GIANT ASS SEMI-TRUCK. |
don't worry, the pilot's still alive! I see his parachute! |
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another god
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:09 am |
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| haze wrote: |
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Also, despite the True Lies-ness of the McClane vs plane bit.. the very fact that it was the awesome VTOL Joint Strike Fighter made it better. |
That, and the fact that apparently despite all the billions of dollars and years of research that have gone into the JSF, its weapons systems can't successfully target a GIANT ASS SEMI-TRUCK. |
don't worry, the pilot's still alive! I see his parachute! |
It took me until walking out of the theater to figure out why the put that scene in. USA. USA. Goooo USA.
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Faithless
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| elvis.shrugged wrote: |
I passed my license exam today.
My first order of business, after getting said license, is to make plans to see this with a friend.
Also--Faithless, why are you the single coolest girl person ever? |
Because I was raised on Chow Yun-Fat and Lucky Charms.
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kiken
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:24 am |
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Also, despite the True Lies-ness of the McClane vs plane bit.. the very fact that it was the awesome VTOL Joint Strike Fighter made it better. |
That, and the fact that apparently despite all the billions of dollars and years of research that have gone into the JSF, its weapons systems can't successfully target a GIANT ASS SEMI-TRUCK. |
That's because all of the development money went into making the VTOL function look hella cool. |
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XORDYH
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:46 am |
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| kiken wrote: |
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Also, despite the True Lies-ness of the McClane vs plane bit.. the very fact that it was the awesome VTOL Joint Strike Fighter made it better. |
That, and the fact that apparently despite all the billions of dollars and years of research that have gone into the JSF, its weapons systems can't successfully target a GIANT ASS SEMI-TRUCK. |
That's because all of the development money went into making the VTOL function look hella cool. |
Too bad they didn't pick Black Mamba for the name: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-35_Lightning_II#Naming
I am glad the X-35 beat the X-32 though, the X-32 is UGLY. |
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haze
la belle poney sans merci
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:33 am |
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| another god wrote: |
| haze wrote: |
| ssj-xordyh wrote: |
| kiken wrote: |
Also, despite the True Lies-ness of the McClane vs plane bit.. the very fact that it was the awesome VTOL Joint Strike Fighter made it better. |
That, and the fact that apparently despite all the billions of dollars and years of research that have gone into the JSF, its weapons systems can't successfully target a GIANT ASS SEMI-TRUCK. |
don't worry, the pilot's still alive! I see his parachute! |
It took me until walking out of the theater to figure out why the put that scene in. USA. USA. Goooo USA. |
did anyone else get this 5 minute long commercial about how NOTHING ON EARTH IS STRONGER THAN A U.S. SOLDIER during their trailers
and then 2 minutes later the Transformers trailer comes on where giant robots are scattering U.S. soldiers like bowling pins
before watching the movie where an air force pilot can't even kill a suspected terrorist in a truck
"just like in the movies, only our heroes are real"
(interpret that however you want) |
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XORDYH
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:07 am |
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| haze wrote: |
| another god wrote: |
| haze wrote: |
| ssj-xordyh wrote: |
| kiken wrote: |
Also, despite the True Lies-ness of the McClane vs plane bit.. the very fact that it was the awesome VTOL Joint Strike Fighter made it better. |
That, and the fact that apparently despite all the billions of dollars and years of research that have gone into the JSF, its weapons systems can't successfully target a GIANT ASS SEMI-TRUCK. |
don't worry, the pilot's still alive! I see his parachute! |
It took me until walking out of the theater to figure out why the put that scene in. USA. USA. Goooo USA. |
did anyone else get this 5 minute long commercial about how NOTHING ON EARTH IS STRONGER THAN A U.S. SOLDIER during their trailers
and then 2 minutes later the Transformers trailer comes on where giant robots are scattering U.S. soldiers like bowling pins
before watching the movie where an air force pilot can't even kill a suspected terrorist in a truck
"just like in the movies, only our heroes are real"
(interpret that however you want) |
Couldn't have been a USAF pilot, the USAF will fly the F-35A, which is CTOL; the VTOL versions are the F-35B and C, flown by the USMC and USN respectively. Just goes to show that they should leave the flying to the Air Force. |
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DonMarco
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:47 am |
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| ssj-xordyh wrote: |
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Also, despite the True Lies-ness of the McClane vs plane bit.. the very fact that it was the awesome VTOL Joint Strike Fighter made it better. |
That, and the fact that apparently despite all the billions of dollars and years of research that have gone into the JSF, its weapons systems can't successfully target a GIANT ASS SEMI-TRUCK. |
Wait, wait, wait. You think the military busts out the fat wallets and dumps it all into making precise munitions? "Smart" bombs?? Why take out one truck when you could cripple 400-feet of highway overpass? Millions of dollars in infrastructure damage... or a tiny truck that's probably empty and only maybe has one suspected terrorist possibly. Why fuck up his day, when you "accidentily" strike the surrounding roads or hospitals or playgrounds?
Also, John McClane is personally protected by angel Jesus.
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km
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:27 am |
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This movie was face-meltingly awesome and I would have shouted "fuck yeah!" every time something exploded (which was frequently!) if it hadn't been PG-13 :/
Thanks for ruining my movie experience, parents seeing this with children for some inexplicable reason.
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DonMarco
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| km wrote: |
This movie was face-meltingly awesome and I would have shouted "fuck yeah!" every time something exploded (which was frequently!) if it hadn't been PG-13 :/
Thanks for ruining my movie experience, parents seeing this with children for some inexplicable reason. |
You know, if they planned for a PG-13 and also shot a few dozen rolls of "R-rated" scenes... They could... feasibly... Edit the gratuitous violence back in. Maybe release it as a "driector's cut" on a digital versitle disc or something in the near future... Maybe in time for the holidays?
Hopefully better than the "unrated" AVP with its god-awful CG blood. Fucking Paul Verhoeven...
I've seen DH4 twice. I could stand seeing it a third time.
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XORDYH
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:37 am |
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| DonMarco wrote: |
| ssj-xordyh wrote: |
| kiken wrote: |
Also, despite the True Lies-ness of the McClane vs plane bit.. the very fact that it was the awesome VTOL Joint Strike Fighter made it better. |
That, and the fact that apparently despite all the billions of dollars and years of research that have gone into the JSF, its weapons systems can't successfully target a GIANT ASS SEMI-TRUCK. |
Wait, wait, wait. You think the military busts out the fat wallets and dumps it all into making precise munitions? "Smart" bombs?? Why take out one truck when you could cripple 400-feet of highway overpass? Millions of dollars in infrastructure damage... or a tiny truck that's probably empty and only maybe has one suspected terrorist possibly. Why fuck up his day, when you "accidentily" strike the surrounding roads or hospitals or playgrounds?
Also, John McClane is personally protected by angel Jesus. |
John McClaine isn't protected by angel Jesus. He is protected by Hardcore Delta Force Rip Himself Down Off the Cross and Kick Your Ass While Eating a Cheeseburger and Getting a Blowjob Jesus.
This Jesus: http://www.fistofblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/jesusfightshercules.jpg
Rawk.
Edit: found a better scan. Anyone have the whole comic? |
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shrugtheironteacup
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:53 pm |
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Johnson again?
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DonMarco
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| Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:11 pm |
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DH5's villian should be a bit more action-packed. Like Chuck Norris or Vin Diesel.
Or! Both...
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elvis.shrugged
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Just saw this, finally!
It was good!
Not as great as DH1 or 3, but it was a damn sight better than Die Harder.
McClane destroying the helicoptor while in the tunnel was great. And yeah, even though the jet sequence was True Lies-y, it was still very amusing.
They need to release this R-rated. Now.
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Agent Orange
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| Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:44 pm |
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The Harrier, guys
THE HARRIER !
OMG
+ all this Hackers crap?
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Faithless
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| Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:19 pm |
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This was the best sequel of the summer so far. I can't wait to own the Die Hard Quadrology on Blu-Ray.
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