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Hot Stott Bot
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Oh no, they're not paying for it, and I use it for lots of stuff other than work! I already had a cellphone when I was told that, so yeah... I think a couple people at work have had to get cellphones though.
I'm pretty sure if someone wanted a cellphone and only used it for work they would pay for it though. I get reimbursed for lots of stuff as it is, so, if I wanted to get reimbursed for work calls it probably wouldn't be a big deal.
Hmm, yeah, and I don't have a home phone, and I'm rarely at home anyway, so if that works for you than that works for you!
Yeah, as I was saying though, it is only very rarely that someone has had to call me for work... but the times it happens it has been pretty important, so... |
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Lick Meth
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I enjoy phones with multiple features, although I'll forever rue the day I spent £too much to be the first person to have a camera phone in my college (for about a month). However, I like how mobiles double up as a nifty camera in needy situations, and work as alternative clocks/alarms.
You know we'll all have them as wrist things like Leela in Futurama soon anyway. |
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aderack
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:45 am |
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| what is so bad about a mobile phone to outweigh the benefits |
Intrusiveness, ongoing expense (in addition to upfront cost), increased sense of obligation. Plus, an intrinsic lack of appeal or regular utility for the device's primary function. Just more unnecessary clutter to weigh on the mind.
Pretty much anything that could be considered a convenience is equally an inconvenience if you don't happen to actively need it. I don't even wear a wristwatch unless I know I have to be somewhere on time. Why not? It's intrusive, and I need my space.
Plus ditto to Scratchmonkey, re: "those people". The damned things will be the death of us all. Just you wait. |
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Hot Stott Bot
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:03 am |
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| Eric-Jon Rössel Waugh wrote: |
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| what is so bad about a mobile phone to outweigh the benefits |
Intrusiveness, ongoing expense (in addition to upfront cost), increased sense of obligation. Plus, an intrinsic lack of appeal or regular utility for the device's primary function. Just more unnecessary clutter to weigh on the mind.
Pretty much anything that could be considered a convenience is equally an inconvenience if you don't happen to actively need it. I don't even wear a wristwatch unless I know I have to be somewhere on time. Why not? It's intrusive, and I need my space.
Plus ditto to Scratchmonkey, re: "those people". The damned things will be the death of us all. Just you wait. |
I very much disagree on the intrusiveness issue, though the increased sense of obligation argument has some validity. The thing about that though is I don't feel like the increased obligation to other people is really a bad thing. I mean to have more obligations to other people is to become more integrated into people's lives and widen your social circles, which I think is sort of what life's about... or something... but I guess that's a philosohical point, and one could have a very different viewpoint than me on that.
The expense issue is also of course valid... but they are really cheap these days... |
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Aaron
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| Eric-Jon Rössel Waugh wrote: |
Intrusiveness, ongoing expense (in addition to upfront cost), increased sense of obligation. Plus, an intrinsic lack of appeal or regular utility for the device's primary function. Just more unnecessary clutter to weigh on the mind.
Pretty much anything that could be considered a convenience is equally an inconvenience if you don't happen to actively need it. I don't even wear a wristwatch unless I know I have to be somewhere on time. Why not? It's intrusive, and I need my space. |
I think even a Zen monk would think you're taking this asethetic a little too far. Every phone service has an ongoing expense. The appeal is no matter where you are (within reason) you can be reached. If I'm at work, home, or in the supermarket staring at cabbages, people can ring me up. I also use it as my mp3 player, and could use it as a watch if I wasn't so used to wearing one. |
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Kappuru
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:20 am |
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If you find a watch intrusive... and you need your space from a watch .. well, your human relationships must certainly be interesting.
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Baron Patsy
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| Eric-Jon Rössel Waugh wrote: |
| Hot Stott Bot wrote: |
| what is so bad about a mobile phone to outweigh the benefits |
Intrusiveness, ongoing expense (in addition to upfront cost), increased sense of obligation. Plus, an intrinsic lack of appeal or regular utility for the device's primary function. Just more unnecessary clutter to weigh on the mind.
Pretty much anything that could be considered a convenience is equally an inconvenience if you don't happen to actively need it. I don't even wear a wristwatch unless I know I have to be somewhere on time. Why not? It's intrusive, and I need my space.
Plus ditto to Scratchmonkey, re: "those people". The damned things will be the death of us all. Just you wait. |
Yes. This. I've avoided voicing my opinions on this topic thus far, and now I don't need to! My parents forced me to get a cell phone, and I keep the damned thing shoved away in a box on top of my dresser, which is, as far as I am concerned, the best place for it. I'd agree about the wristwatch comment, but then I'd be a hypocrite, seeing as I wear a watch just about any time I am awake and not typing at the computer. However, that's out of necessity, as I have a consistent obsessive need to have the ability to exactly what time at any moment. I don't know why.
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dessgeega
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i can't stand wearing watches. i havn't owned one in years.
i didn't end up getting a cell phone until i moved into a tiny apartment with no landline. it's just been convenient to hang on to since then. i feel safer knowing that if i'm walking somewhere and i start to feel uncomfortable i can just pick it up and talk to someone until i get to someplace safer.
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psiga
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| Kappuru wrote: |
| If you find a watch intrusive... and you need your space from a watch .. well, your human relationships must certainly be interesting. |
When we met at the Nokia press party back in '05, he and I were there with sandals and no watches. Heh. I did have a pre-paid cellphone, though.
I stopped wearing a watch after my favorite one broke. That was, uh, five years ago, maybe more. Eventually just got used to not having one. If I could get this with brass instead of chrome, and a nice stressed leather instead of black rubber, I'd have to do it.
As for phone, if pressed, I'd either get a Helio Ocean or an iPwn, depending on things. But again, that would be more for web, music, web, maps, notes, web, lists, and video. I very nearly loathe talking to people on phones. Until I have a really good reason to get something more than a prepaid phone that only gets turned on when I'm expecting a call. . .
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BenoitRen
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| Yes they were. Why is that "bollocks"? |
Because it's plain not true.
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| So now you're argument comes down to the fact that, according to you, the conveniences afforded by a mobile phone simply "aren't a big deal", as opposed to not existing, which brings me back to my original question about what is so bad about a mobile phone to outweigh the benefits, since there clearly are benefits... you just happen to consider them "not a big deal". |
Benefits I don't really need. Hence not a big deal. I would rarely need to use it, so it's not worth 50+ EUR plus whatever phone bill I get.
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| I mean, it doesn't really make sense to get a cellphone "because it is trendy"... because... it isn't trendy... it is just... standard. |
There's a fine line between standard and trendy. Most teenagers get one because everyone else does, and their friends would whine that he/she doesn't have one. Like you people are whining that I don't want one. It's the popular culture.
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| I suppose if anything, these interactions are a big part of our cell phone society. That, and people being fairly inconsiderate, etc etc. |
Mobile phones are largely responsible for it. They cheapen our communication. What's the value of being able to reach someone if you can always reach them? And then you get annoyed because they don't answer when they have the phone on them.
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| watches are as much a "NEED" as a cellphone, and are marketed in the exact same way |
I haven't seen watch marketing in years.
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| No, everyone, save for recognized diseases has a biological clock based on the day cycle that's fairly accurate. |
No, not everyone. Mine isn't that accurate.
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| I also have similar views to dhex on cell phones in that I find them socially obnoxious -- I don't particularly like having to hear one-half of people's private conversations when I'm stuck on a bus or waiting at the airport or shopping. Obviously the problem here is not so much the device itself, rather, it's the device enabling people to be self-centered assholes who engage in antisocial behavior. |
Hear, hear! They're even being marketed as a device for that behaviour. I'm fucking tired of being on the bus and hearing someone talk on the phone like I'm not even there, as if it isn't private. I'm tired of all these fucking obnoxious ring tones and SMS beeps. I'm tired of people making music for the whole bus because some idiot thought it was great to have mobile phones be music players too. ARRGH!
Then you all these ads on TV that I have to suffer through when I happen to watch it from time to time, offering ringtones and backgrounds if you SMS to a particular number. It pisses me off.
I also agree with Eric-Jon. Come on, as if it isn't obtrusive that someone can suddenly call you while you're in some random store, looking for something, or at work, when you need to be working. It's just not appropriate.
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| Every phone service has an ongoing expense. |
Mobile phone rates are much higher than home phone rates.
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lolipalooza
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| Vehicular Manslaughter wrote: |
| I also have similar views to dhex on cell phones in that I find them socially obnoxious -- I don't particularly like having to hear one-half of people's private conversations when I'm stuck on a bus or waiting at the airport or shopping. Obviously the problem here is not so much the device itself, rather, it's the device enabling people to be self-centered assholes who engage in antisocial behavior. |
What about people talking to each other on the bus? Is that a problem too? Both are private in the sense that they're not talking to you, and public because others can hear it.
I understand getting annoyed by some stupid conversations of that kind, but when most of them enrage you... well, then who is really the antisocial?
I mean no offense, but there's some hatred in this thread that I find difficult to grasp. |
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Mr. Apol
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:43 am |
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but sometimes sneaking into a movie theater is fun!
kind of like crashing hotel swimming pools.
benoitren do you ever have fun :(
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Hot Stott Bot
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:05 am |
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Guys I had to sneak into the theatre.
All my friends were there and I didn't want to miss seeing the movie with them. :( |
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Mr. Apol
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:13 am |
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Guys I had to sneak into the theatre.
All my friends were there and I didn't want to miss seeing the movie with them. :( |
rob let's crash a hotel swimming pool and drink colt 45 and have a good time
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:27 am |
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benoitren, i'm sorry you find the concept of tolerance so alien.
your blood pressure is probably very high :( |
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Ebrey
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:53 am |
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Mobile phones are largely responsible for it. They cheapen our communication. What's the value of being able to reach someone if you can always reach them? And then you get annoyed because they don't answer when they have the phone on them. |
BenoitRen, you are priceless. The value of being able to reach someone is so that you can tell them something.
Before cell phones, hanging out had to be arranged well in advance. This wasn't bad, it's just... inferior to the situation we have now. Sometimes my brother isn't getting much work done and calls me at work to ask if I want to do something fun. This is much better than calling me after I get home, when I probably would have settled in and not want to do anything.
I'm surprised to hear about some people here texting. Isn't that only for teenage girls? Text-based communication is only something I do when I'm terribly bored, and if I'm away from my computer I'm generally doing something interesting. If I'm at my computer I'll use AIM instead of a phone. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:06 am |
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I use just under my 500 texts a month and I'm on MSN nearly all day on my phone.
It is, by far, the most useful form of communication on the planet. Short of directly connecting someones face with your fist. |
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Kappuru
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:01 am |
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I'm surprised to hear about some people here texting. Isn't that only for teenage girls? Text-based communication is only something I do when I'm terribly bored, and if I'm away from my computer I'm generally doing something interesting. If I'm at my computer I'll use AIM instead of a phone. |
texting is amazing. i realize half (more? oh well) of you guys think i'm a fruit or hipster/artfag/trendwhore whatever, but seriously, texting comes in handy during 75% of my day. work, school, whatever, i've even arranged a date over SMS. Sure, communication can be cheapened, but the goal of a cellphone is usually (at least in my case) to bring about a face-to-face.
Also, I'm surprised no one has brought this up, but isn't the INTERNET cheapened communication? Sure, you can say we can send each other images (uh, also on a cell) or voice (natch) .. but nuance and tone is often lost in this text medium. yet here we all sit, debating pointless (sometimes..) subjects such as this one. Is it wrong to do something because you say.. enjoy it?
Benoitren, what do you enjoy? Fine mechanical clocks? Whittling? Cribbage? Sonic 360? I don't see how you can rail against the obtrusiveness of cellular phones, and how they're cheapening/weakening society, and on the other hand you defend the absolute merits of Sonic Heroes.
Trolling at it's finest, ladies and gentlemen.
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scratchmonkey
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| lolipalooza wrote: |
What about people talking to each other on the bus? Is that a problem too? Both are private in the sense that they're not talking to you, and public because others can hear it.
I understand getting annoyed by some stupid conversations of that kind, but when most of them enrage you... well, then who is really the antisocial?
I mean no offense, but there's some hatred in this thread that I find difficult to grasp. |
Here's the thing though -- people talking to each other face-to-face never seem to have the conversations that I hear people having on cell phones. Perhaps they're more aware of what's going on around them? I'm not sure.
For whatever reason, overhearing conversations is something that I generally enjoy (as a voyeur at heart) and overhearing somebody talking on their cell phone will drive me insane more often than not.
Maybe it's just the obliviousness that frays my nerves. |
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Ebrey
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:17 am |
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| Kappuru wrote: |
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I'm surprised to hear about some people here texting. Isn't that only for teenage girls? Text-based communication is only something I do when I'm terribly bored, and if I'm away from my computer I'm generally doing something interesting. If I'm at my computer I'll use AIM instead of a phone. |
texting is amazing. |
How so? AIM is a tool to be used when bored, lonely, and trying to put off doing work. It's second rate communication. Why would I want something similar when I'm outside having fun? |
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dark steve
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What about people talking to each other on the bus? Is that a problem too? Both are private in the sense that they're not talking to you, and public because others can hear it.
I understand getting annoyed by some stupid conversations of that kind, but when most of them enrage you... well, then who is really the antisocial?
I mean no offense, but there's some hatred in this thread that I find difficult to grasp. |
Here's the thing though -- people talking to each other face-to-face never seem to have the conversations that I hear people having on cell phones. Perhaps they're more aware of what's going on around them? I'm not sure.
For whatever reason, overhearing conversations is something that I generally enjoy (as a voyeur at heart) and overhearing somebody talking on their cell phone will drive me insane more often than not.
Maybe it's just the obliviousness that frays my nerves. |
Yeah, you gradually notice that when people talk on cell phones, as opposed to talking to each other in person, they tend to tune out the world immediately around them. Which... well, you can imagine. I don't think people typically even realize they're doing it, honestly. Not that it isn't still profoundly annoying. |
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How so? AIM is a tool to be used when bored, lonely, and trying to put off doing work. It's second rate communication. Why would I want something similar when I'm outside having fun? |
I don't know what kind of conversations you're having. Long AIM conversations are indeed fun and have more latitude than other forms of communication sometimes.
now please misquote me saying i hate face to face communication.
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Pijaibros
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If it wasn't for texting, I wouldn't use a cell phone so much.
I really appreciate it since I don't have to think on the spot for an answer (like a phone call) and I don't have to spend the time waiting for a response. It is given to me when the other party is good and ready.
It drives me bonkers when I try to call someone and all I get is the voicemail box. I don't even leave a message, it just sounds awkward. It's just easier to text nowadays.
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falsedan
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| lolipalooza wrote: |
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| I also have similar views to dhex on cell phones in that I find them socially obnoxious -- I don't particularly like having to hear one-half of people's private conversations when I'm stuck on a bus or waiting at the airport or shopping. Obviously the problem here is not so much the device itself, rather, it's the device enabling people to be self-centered assholes who engage in antisocial behavior. |
What about people talking to each other on the bus? Is that a problem too? Both are private in the sense that they're not talking to you, and public because others can hear it.
I understand getting annoyed by some stupid conversations of that kind, but when most of them enrage you... well, then who is really the antisocial?
I mean no offense, but there's some hatred in this thread that I find difficult to grasp. |
lolipalooza I agree entirely. A dickhead conversation is a dickhead conversation, regardless if its overhead between both parties or only one who's using a phone. So the quality of conversation isn't strictly related to the medium used! Also I overhear plenty interesting phone conversations!
I had a eNEC 313 for 2 years, after never ever having a phone. I was inspired by DonMarco's cameraphone adventures, and it was the cheapest phone with a camera, could also send email, and was colour. Now I have… hell, a 5-year-old model blue Nokia that cost £15. I've had it a week, and so far, incoming: 4 calls, outgoing: 3. 27 SMSs out and 20 in. Texts rock! High five Kap! ALSO: +44 7796878521
I haven't used a watch since high school, since school/uni has pretty reliable time cues and all computers have clocks (and now I use my phone). Nowdays I would like to own a watch that could also double as a knuckle-duster, preferably made of depleted uranium.
I didn't have a phone for ages because I confused the causality of having and needing a phone i.e. people never called me because I didn't have a phone, not I don't get called so I don't need a phone.
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CubaLibre
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wearing depleted uranium on your wrist is a good idea
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scratchmonkey
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| Yeah, you gradually notice that when people talk on cell phones, as opposed to talking to each other in person, they tend to tune out the world immediately around them. Which... well, you can imagine. I don't think people typically even realize they're doing it, honestly. Not that it isn't still profoundly annoying. |
Yeah, after thinking about it, I think this is pretty much it. People can have horrible conversations on the phone or face-to-face; however, they're more likely to have horrible conversations in private and cell phones seem to encourage people to believe that they're having a "private" conversation and thus include semantics that aren't usually part of public utterances.
Really though, it's less "horrible" conversations and more banal conversations. If it's 3AM in an airport terminal, I don't mind if somebody makes a phone call to their brother to make sure that they can pick them up. When they start having a conversation about whatever hot chick they met at the bar last night, then I start to wonder about their psychology.
And it's not that I think people are dumb, it's just that everybody's private conversations are going to be pretty stupid, because they're almost always about shit that only matters to you. |
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| wearing depleted uranium on your wrist is a good idea |
It's not like I'd wear the watch all the time… special occasions, white-tie dinners, pit fights, duels.
Also depleted uranium isn't that hot! It's an alpha emitter, so I reckon as long as I don't eat it I'd be fine. Plating/varishing it would also be on the agenda.
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negativedge
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I've never owned a watch or a cell phone, I haven't used my AIM account in at least four years, I send an email maybe once every few months, I don't own a blog/journal/diary/youtube account/flickr account/myspace/facebook page/whatever, I don't use bookmarks on my internets, etc, etc.
Am I a bad person? |
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Tokyo Rude
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I've never owned a watch or a cell phone, I haven't used my AIM account in at least four years, I send an email maybe once every few months, I don't own a blog/journal/diary/youtube account/flickr account/myspace/facebook page/whatever, I don't use bookmarks on my internets, etc, etc.
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A troll probably. Based on these facts present, the cellphone thread is probably not for you! This is me holding the assumption that the people of this forum don't make the pointed out moronic mistakes of having private conversations in public, etc.
Also, I text and email far more than I talk because I don't feel like I'm intruding on other's lives. Also I always have it on vibrate.
There's really not a lot of point in answering machines nowadays. I just see that someone called and when it's convenient call them back. If they called three times in a row, I can guess it was something of an emergency. |
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dhex
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| i feel safer knowing that if i'm walking somewhere and i start to feel uncomfortable i can just pick it up and talk to someone until i get to someplace safer. |
having just had this conversation with my wife for the umpteenth time this is fresh in my mind - wouldn't talking on the phone make you less safe? regardless of how you feel i mean. and less aware of your surroundings? and more likely to get hurt or robbed? less likely to see or hear someone coming up on you from behind, etc?
at least that's how i figure it. it's not like if someone hears a cell phone disconnect they're going to think "oh they're in trouble" so much as "oh, the cell phone disconnected cause that's what these things do." and if they do hear screaming, what are they going to do?
now if you drive i think you have a much better argument cause you can call AAA at 2 am and get your shit fixed. or call a cab or whatever.
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| When they start having a conversation about whatever hot chick they met at the bar last night, then I start to wonder about their psychology. |
the best is when they have conversations about how they know for sure you can't get chlamydia in your throat. (protip: you can! ewwwwwwww!) outside of your window. at 2 am. on a tuesday. it was a lot more entertaining back in 2000 or so. not so much now. but such is life.
the best part of not having a cellphone is being secure in the knowledge that when the backlash to continual useless connectivity comes i'll be ahead of the game and ready to receive my crown of laurels. and blowjobs. i expect a lot of those. mostly cause i won't have junk cancer and ball cancer and brain cancer from the RADIO WAVES OF DEATH (this probably isn't true but it sounds good). also due to free rider syndrome and the amount of saturation i don't actually need a cell phone in case of a minor "emergency" - i can borrow someone else's. (as we've seen in nyc major emergencies = no cell service anyway)
also benoit i've been waiting a while to say this but goddamn do you need an open source non m$soft atomic wedgie something fierce. if you had an older brother he severely neglected his duties and should be admonished for failing all of us.
this has been procrastination friday thank you and good night. |
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dhex
Joined: 17 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:11 pm |
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| i'm sorry. i hope it was worth it! |
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nothingxs
various methods of escape
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: Miami, FL
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:23 pm |
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| What if you are dying in a ditch and have no means to call the emergency services, eh? |
Other people can call the emergency service for me in a house near to me. It's how people did it before there was a cell phone. |
you must not live in modern america
on another note: my cellphone has street fighter ii ringtones and different ones play depending on who calls me. random? guile. friends? ryu. family? vega/claw.
work? bison/dictator. :D
also since i'm rarely at home sometimes the cellphone is useful for me to talk to my mother / grandmother in case they need something, and with my friends to coordinate where we're going to shoot hadokens at each other.
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Mr Mustache
Mean Mr. Mustache
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: Bushwick
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:47 pm |
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| now if you drive i think you have a much better argument cause you can call AAA at 2 am and get your shit fixed. or call a cab or whatever. |
This and other pseudo emergencies are pretty much what makes having one worthwhile. Other than that, they can be convenient and they can be annoying. The fact is, having one does not mean that you always have to answer it.
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Corinth
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Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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I have a cellphone. People rarely call me and I rarely answer when they do. I feel no obligation to pick up a phone just because it is ringing. I keep it on vibrate and occasionally check the messages I occasionally get. It is useful as a clock, since I don't wear watches, and sometimes I do need to make a phone call.
One of the primary features of a mobile phone, as far as I'm concerned, is that I don't have to switch phone numbers based on location (home, college dorm room, etc.), which actually reduces my obligation to inform people of my whereabouts, or my reliance on others to do the same if I'm not there. |
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nothingxs
various methods of escape
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: Miami, FL
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Martial Loh
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
Location: London, UK
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I really feel the difference when I forget to put my watch on... But I don't feel the same "emptiness" when I leave my phone at home.
I guess my seiko kinetic is probably a little heavier than say, my cheapo casio. That would explain a lot. yes...
Texting rocks too. I use about 200 or so a month (freeeeeeeee!). |
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FortNinety
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: New York, New York
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Hey, a cell phone thread!
I myself have a Samsung SYNC. It sucks. If you want to check out my super long explanation as to why, then head on over to here. But the short version is that there's too many buttons, all of which gets in the way of doing the most simplest of things.
But at the very least, it has a very good camera...
And here's the piece of shit I'm 99.9% certain is responsible.
I'd love to get an iPhone, but you know... $600, AT&T (whom I'm currently with, and they suck dick), shitty speeds, no iChat, shitty email.
I wanted to get a Samsung E700 series phone, if only because the design still gets me all hot and bothered, but the one guy who was selling a bunch of brand new, unlocked ones on eBay has mysteriously disappeared. Damn.
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| Has the cell phone ruined your phone number memorization skills? |
YES
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| Not having a mobile phone does not make you special. It just makes you awkward or difficult. |
Amen to that. Not saying you have a cell phone is the new "I don't own a television." With the exception of dhex, who actually backs his arguments (even though I don't necessarily agree with him) and isn't a total schmuck about it, everyone else usually comes off so fucking high and mighty.
And even though I don't entire agree with the overhearing a conversation on a bus scenario (yeah, an asshole is an asshole, but you probably will hear him less if he has no one or nothing to talk with), I still they are ultimately very good and helpful gadgets. I don't know how many times I was in a situation where I made a quick call on the spot and saved money, time, and aggravation.
Though I will fucking throw a big party the day that movie theaters are allowed to install signal dampening insulation to prevent any cell phone signals to come in and out of a screening room.
BTW, one most piece of spam: for anyone that's interested in finding out how Mega Man 2 fares on cell phones, check out my review. Though long story short: great, once again, Capcom doesn't give a damn about Mega Man.
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CubaLibre
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Joined: 02 Mar 2007
Location: Balmer
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Are movie theaters not allowed to install signal-dapmening insulation? Seems to me that as private businesses they ought to be allowed to do whatever the hell they want.
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FortNinety
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: New York, New York
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From what I understand, from my friend who is the manager of a theater, there's laws against them. Something like how, in a gathering place for the public, people need to have the opportunity to make phone calls in case of danger or something. Maybe there's some First Amendment elements too. Sounds silly I know... actually, let me ask him about it.
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Predator Goose
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
Location: Oversensitive Pedantic Ninny
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| Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:37 pm |
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| FortNinety wrote: |
| From what I understand, from my friend who is the manager of a theater, there's laws against them. Something like how, in a gathering place for the public, people need to have the opportunity to make phone calls in case of danger or something. Maybe there's some First Amendment elements too. Sounds silly I know... actually, let me ask him about it. |
Can't hurt to not have it in cases of, say, an actual fire when you can't get out but could tell someone where you were.
Edit: Oh God, I agree with Benoit Ren, at least in part. I think I need to lay down.
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