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inmatarian
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:37 am        Reply with quote

I'd like to draw attention to wikipedia, who says the Spear was invented somewhere between 5 million years ago to 50,000 years ago, and that human language was invented between 2 million to 50,000 years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spear
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language

Weapons being a natural right seems fairly justified by these, apparently, cited facts. Anyway, resume the dialogue about whatever.
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shrugtheironteacup
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:58 am        Reply with quote

Crawling out of hiding to add to this thread.

I picked up a Colt Trooper Mark III in .357 magnum awhile ago. Used, obviously.

I was drawn to the .357 because I can chamber the cheaper .38 special round for general practice and plinking when money is tight.

I've put about a thousand rounds of .38 special and 500 or so of .357 through it since I acquired it. It's a lot of fun to shoot, lower recoil than I expected, and I get nice tight shot groupings up to about 30 meters right now when firing in DA.

My friend, who carries his P99 around in his laptop bag, scoffs at my low ammo capacity. I tell him that I just have it for fun, and on the extreme off chance I ever have to shoot a person to guarantee my own safety I figure that if I can't get them in six rounds I deserve whatever's coming to me. One of these days I hope we can get out to the range together so I can see what shooting the P99 is like. (I imagine like shooting all the other 9mm pistols that I've had the opportunity to.)

I've seriously thought about picking up a 1911A1 when I have the money. I've also been looking at repros of the Winchester m1887 lever-action 12 gauge, and the model97 pump-action in its "trench broom" configuration from the First Great War.

I guess I have a fondness for things that (pretend to) have history.
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shrugtheironteacup
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:58 am        Reply with quote

Oh, and I like to make jokes about picking one of these up:



In case I ever desperately need to kill an elephant from two feet away.
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falsedan



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:26 pm        Reply with quote

Mosin-Nagants are better than Lee-Enfields, but I coundn't find as suitable a picture.

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Broco



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:34 pm        Reply with quote

inmatarian wrote:
I'd like to draw attention to the obvious, who says rape started somewhere between 4 billion years ago to 100 million years ago, and that human language was invented between 2 million to 50,000 years ago.

Rape being a natural right seems fairly justified by these facts.


(Not really saying they're equivalent things, just that arguing something is good or acceptable because it's "natural", or conversely bad because it isn't, is always bogus.)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:50 pm        Reply with quote

broco whut you are taking my topic off topic into crappy-analogy-filled emotional/antagonistic arguments
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inmatarian
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:15 pm        Reply with quote

Broco wrote:
(Not really saying they're equivalent things, just that arguing something is good or acceptable because it's "natural", or conversely bad because it isn't, is always bogus.)


Oh, don't be confused by me. I'm not assigning any moral value on this. I'm just saying that the ability to kill using a tool is as old as the ability to vomit meaningful pressure waves into the air. Both can be used for very vile acts.
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CubaLibre
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:18 pm        Reply with quote

shrugtheironteacup wrote:
Oh, and I like to make jokes about picking one of these up:



In case I ever desperately need to kill an elephant from two feet away.

Who doesn't love Taurus?

John Woo knows where it's at.

I don't have any guns. It's too impractical for me right now. :( I really need my own house...
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Adilegian
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:14 pm        Reply with quote

TRANSPARENT PLEA:

Does anyone with a digital camera have a Beretta M92F? I need a good resolution image of the M92F, and I keep finding only this online:



Anyone?
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slipstream
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:40 pm        Reply with quote

I don't much like handguns but going and shooting clay pigeons at a shooting range is always good times. Actually hitting a moving target is pretty tough!

and re: gun control
I would feel a lot better about guns in America if everyone who owned a gun went to the shooting range and took gun safety classes etc instead of treating it as some divine right.
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The Blueberry Hill



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:51 am        Reply with quote





There she is! Shitty picture, as per usual.

Foudn her at the big Porta Portese market in Rome, the guy had a few more, and least one of them had the same inlay. It's Italian, and apparently from the time of Garibaldi. So around the mid 1800's.

The silver looking stuff is soft metal inlay, the white teardrop shaps are mother of pearl. The metal is brass (maybe?) with a lot of design work on the barrel. The wood is something light coloured that's been stained. Maybe pine? The moving part s are all rust, but with some effort the hammer moves. It's been disarmed, and the trigger won't budge.

Right now just hoping I can get it into Australia.
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haircute
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:57 am        Reply with quote

That is the most beautiful firearm I have ever seen.
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CubaLibre
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:43 pm        Reply with quote

Adilegian: securityarms.com

slipstream wrote:
I would feel a lot better about guns in America if everyone who owned a gun went to the shooting range and took gun safety classes etc instead of treating it as some divine right.

I would be totally okay with this. We license cars, why not guns.

Of course, there's an amendment to the Constitution that mentions guns specifically. The Constitution doesn't mention anything specifically (including cars). That's what makes people treat it as some "divine right."

But yeah I wouldn't mind skills-based licensing.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:50 am        Reply with quote

Isn't there compulsory training & licensing for concealed carrying? I think that could easily be extended to all handguns, etc.

Adilegian I have reviewed some information on Mosin Nagants and there is some frothing demand over here let me tell you!
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DJ
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:25 pm        Reply with quote

I inherited a .45 from a co-worker (who later took it back, I never got to fire it -- no ammo and I never bought any) and had a Remington 870 Shotgun hidden in my room when I was 16-18 (I eventually sold it to someone at school).

I'm in Toups' camp. I think gun control is a good thing, but still think guns are totally great.
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CubaLibre
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:14 pm        Reply with quote

falsedan wrote:
Isn't there compulsory training & licensing for concealed carrying? I think that could easily be extended to all handguns, etc.

I think that varies by state, as does concealed carry generally.

It almost certainly wouldn't be unconstitutional, although you can't be sure.
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