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diplo



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:59 am    Post subject: a topic wherein we discuss dreams and related things    Reply with quote

there was something i wanted to mention, from my experience.

i've had dreams before where i'm hearing my music that's literally indescribable. it's as if the music has transcended every known concept of music, suddenly introduced new notes in the most perfect way. like seeing an eighth color that makes every other color obsolete.
either there is a GODLY MUSIC, a type of music that is unattainable outside of our subconscious minds; OR the dream is exaggerating every quality in some manner. i'd like to think that the first is true, that our deepest imagination and consciousness contains things not yet expressible in our current state. but!

anyway, i haven't had a dream i've remembered in a long while. before, i'd write and draw what i recalled upon waking. i've got those papers in a folder, somewhere, and should probably try to find them.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:01 am        Reply with quote

My dreams are often silent.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:46 am        Reply with quote

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it's as if the music has transcended every known concept of music, suddenly introduced new notes in the most perfect way. like seeing an eighth color that makes every other color obsolete.


dreams act much in the same way hallucinogens do (after all, DMT, a crucial chemical in sleep, is actually an available, if rare street drug). so they will tend to do things like this. it's just about playing tricks on your mind, trust me.

oh, yeah, i mean, it's awesome. it feels awesome (or it did). just, that it's a trick.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:11 am        Reply with quote

i remember two dreams that i had last night. the first involved a level-based metroid game which i was none too thrilled with, but ended up gaining a grudging appreciatation for (i compared it to super mario world, though i think that's just because one of the later stages had sprites from that game's fall palette).

in the other one i was playing a live action version of metal gear. first i had to elude a crafty, rail-jumping soldier to reach the door to the building. inside, i was spotted by a patrolling guard, who turned out to be a cute lady i know from the local leather scene. i dispatched her by whacking her on the lips with a paper envelope until she started to cry, at which point she took off her clothes and lay down on her belly. another guard (whom i think i also recognized) came down the corridor and began untying the fallen guard, who was now inexplicably hogtied and ball-gagged. while the new guard was preoccupied with the first, i slipped past a door, satisfied in the knowledge that my videogame enemies would not come after me once i had left the screen.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:49 am        Reply with quote

I never remember my dreams.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:10 am        Reply with quote

CubaLibre wrote:
I never remember my dreams.


weird.

my oddity is that i've had, like, only one nightmare.
was in some spacecraft, and people were strapped to beds by aliens dressed in doctor uniforms. said extraterrestrials wielded axes and chopped humans' bodies in two. surprisingly clean cuts!

it still didn't wake me up with a start or anything. frightening, to some degree, though...more dramatic, i suppose.

maybe i'll start to have them if i ever get married and/or have kids. then i can get to subconsciously experience all of my horrible insecurities concerning their safety!

it is annoying to get into a great dream, wake up, still be partially immersed in it, and then realize you can't fly, or transform into a giant squid.

also, did not know about that DMT thing, parkbench. interesting.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:17 am        Reply with quote

Sometimes I get the new music coming together in my head when I'm walking home after a graveyard shift in the early morning and I feel like I'm lucid dreaming.

Most of the time my dreams involve me getting the stuff on my mental 'to-do' list actually done. [change account at the bank, meet a nice girl, etc.]
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:23 am        Reply with quote

Once I dreamed I was in Hell.

This was Hell: me bound to a sturdy oak chair with heavy ropes being forcefed ketchup by a demon with a spoon.

And then they ran out of ketchup.

It was an eternity of awkward silence for both my assigned demon and me because his department didn't have the budget to assign me a new torment.

And that was it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:51 am        Reply with quote

there was a huge thread on lucid dreaming in the ask/tell forums on something awful, once

i wonder what happened to that, it was pretty cool
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:49 am        Reply with quote

My dreams are often very vivid, emotional, and I possibly take them far too seriously. They also contain reoccuring themes, such as tornados, the end of the world, and deserted dwellings I have never been to that are somehow very familiar. People I know in reality are often romanticized, but retain key elements of their real personalities, which allows me to use my dreams as analysis tools.

Of course, of my dreams, the ones I remember the most are of the end of the world. They tend to be quite disturbing but in a very beautiful way that is hard to explain. In it, celestial beings converse with one another in the sky above me as they decide what to do with the Earth.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:27 am        Reply with quote

CubaLibre wrote:
I never remember my dreams.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:14 am        Reply with quote

When I remember mine they are often scary ones set nnear Lake Jacomo.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:21 am        Reply with quote

I don't know how accurate this is, but I've heard that people without musical training can hear amazingly beautiful music in their dreams, and indeed remember enough of the melodies afterwards to know that it's not just their mind flipping on the "I am hearing beautiful music!" switch.

I dunno about transcendent, "Godly" music, though.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:42 am        Reply with quote

rf wrote:
I've heard that people without musical training can hear amazingly beautiful music in their dreams, and indeed remember enough of the melodies afterwards


i can't remember any of it from mine. though, yeah, (practically) no musical training, here.

what also interests me is if the stuff was original, or if it was music i was familiar with that simply sounded different, thanks to...chemicals. no way to tell!

if anything, it was nigh-orgasmic - tearfully so. my subconscious was joyfully bawling non-stop while hearing it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:20 am        Reply with quote

Sometimes (just last night!) I dream about this girl and then when I wake up I'm lonely for the rest of the day.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:14 pm        Reply with quote

kzkb1 wrote:
Sometimes (just last night!) I dream about this girl and then when I wake up I'm lonely for the rest of the day.


I think I've had that happen to me a couple times.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:41 pm        Reply with quote

the other night I dreamt that I took some college classes but knowingly scheduled one during a time of the day that I pretty much could never make it to class.

it was one of those dreams that I was so deep into that it may as well have been real life. in the dream I ended up being really pissed at myself for being a piece of shit and failing a class so blatantly like that. that feeling of being upset carried over to when I woke up.

and then I got pissed for having such a dumb dream.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:47 pm        Reply with quote

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what also interests me is if the stuff was original, or if it was music i was familiar with that simply sounded different, thanks to...chemicals. no way to tell!


it's the chemicals. pls trust a man who has HPPD.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:50 pm        Reply with quote

Toptube wrote:
the other night I dreamt that I took some college classes but knowingly scheduled one during a time of the day that I pretty much could never make it to class.


While in college one of my recurring nightmares of sorts was that I signed up for a class but then somehow completely forgot about it, never going to class or doing homework or exams. Then I would suddenly remember this class near the end of the semester and panic.

(Kind of Kafkaesque, now that I think about it. Like the people who simply ignore their Trials, never answer the summons, and don't face any immediate consequences whatsoever... yet are gnawed at by continual anxiety.)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:01 pm        Reply with quote

Broco wrote:
While in college one of my recurring nightmares of sorts was that I signed up for a class but then somehow completely forgot about it, never going to class or doing homework or exams. Then I would suddenly remember this class near the end of the semester and panic.

I've had the same kind of anxiety dream since graduating college. My next-to-last semester, I failed my Public Speaking class because my instructor was a complete and total bitch. (My college had asked me to fucking introduce Robert Olan Butler when he came to read, so I know how to write and perform a speech.) Because that woman was the only instructor for public speaking, I took interviewing as my only class the next semester just to graduate.

As a result, I've had retro anxiety dreams about that speech class--as though I had to retake it in order to keep my diploma. Kind of reminds me of Vonnegut's Player Piano, where a guy had his diploma revoked because he hadn't passed a requisite physical education course and had to return to complete it or else he'd lose his career.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:10 pm        Reply with quote

speaking of dreams, i came up with an idea for a game that uses dreaming as a conduit for accessing game powers

seems like it would have been done before though but still it is a cool idea
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:47 pm        Reply with quote

Whenever I stumble upon an interesting dream, I'm taking notes and try to make some short story out of the dream. I've done this only once until now, but maybe I'm doing more.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:47 pm        Reply with quote

Broco wrote:
Toptube wrote:
the other night I dreamt that I took some college classes but knowingly scheduled one during a time of the day that I pretty much could never make it to class.


While in college one of my recurring nightmares of sorts was that I signed up for a class but then somehow completely forgot about it, never going to class or doing homework or exams. Then I would suddenly remember this class near the end of the semester and panic.

(Kind of Kafkaesque, now that I think about it. Like the people who simply ignore their Trials, never answer the summons, and don't face any immediate consequences whatsoever... yet are gnawed at by continual anxiety.)


I had recurring dreams just like this in my last college semester, when I was paranoid about doing anything to fuck up graduation.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:16 pm        Reply with quote

I have recurring dreams about the end of the world/existence/etc.

One time, I was in a sort of like, underground ruins. There was an alter with a certain object I needed (I think it was just a white orb). The platform I was on was like a cantilever, and as soon as I grabbed the orb, it started breaking apart. I immediately started running back to the stairs that go to the surface, but as I got close I noticed that everything was breaking apart from that side too. In fact, everything everywhere was disintigrating and falling down. The floor at my feet fell down and I look down and saw an enormous orb of black, that was swallowing everything and everyone up.

And I remember thinking, "This is god. This is the end of all existence. All things become nothing.", as I fell towards it, and I shut my eyes tight and thought "I have to wake up, I have to wake up, I can't let it consume me"

And then I woke up.




Sometimes when I'm not dreaming these things really start to bug me. I wake up and I have to make sure the world still is what it was when I went to sleep. Sometimes I have to go and convince myself, change the way I think, to make sure I keep believing in reality.

This is probably how I learned to control my state of mind. Well, a little bit anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:27 pm        Reply with quote

Ever since I started taking cymbalta to manage my depression, my dreams have become incredibly vivid. It gets to the point where sometimes I remember my dreams better than what I did yesterday.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:40 pm        Reply with quote

slipstream wrote:
Ever since I started taking cymbalta to manage my depression, my dreams have become incredibly vivid. It gets to the point where sometimes I remember my dreams better than what I did yesterday.


I think I want to try this then.

If I could remember my dreams my powers would be immense.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:03 pm        Reply with quote

I had a dream yesterday with various ICSB people in it. Can't remember everybody, nor the circumstances of each instance... I know Apol was miffed at me about something that I had posted. And at one point aderack was talking about how he doesn't like walking to work unless it's raining out (which is strange because I know that he works at home).
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:56 pm        Reply with quote

I had a dream a few nights ago where I met the Rentals. At my front door.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:12 pm        Reply with quote

I always have a hard time maintaining a normal sleep schedule, so I've taken to using melatonin to sort of keep my circadian rhythms on a human timeframe.

It works! Take one or two of those and you conk right out. Melatonin naturally shows up in your brain anyway and is the "go to sleep" chemical that gets produced when the room is dark and you're trying to relax. Taking some of it orally basically tricks your brain into thinking you're sleepier than you are and you can drift off to sleep pretty fast. It won't keep you asleep if you weren't tired to begin with, but it's a nice onramp to a solid 8 hours of sleep if you normally have trouble with that kind of thing.

One thing I have noticed, though, is it gives you much more vivid (and immediate) dreams. They tend to be somewhat more dramatic than usual, and easier to remember.

They can also be somewhat more stressful. I don't think they'll give you Nightmares any more than usual, but stuff like missing class and whatnot tends to show up more.

Sorta neat.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:22 pm        Reply with quote

Broco wrote:
Toptube wrote:
the other night I dreamt that I took some college classes but knowingly scheduled one during a time of the day that I pretty much could never make it to class.


While in college one of my recurring nightmares of sorts was that I signed up for a class but then somehow completely forgot about it, never going to class or doing homework or exams. Then I would suddenly remember this class near the end of the semester and panic.

(Kind of Kafkaesque, now that I think about it. Like the people who simply ignore their Trials, never answer the summons, and don't face any immediate consequences whatsoever... yet are gnawed at by continual anxiety.)


I also regularly have this dream. Sort of strange how it occurs so often.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:05 pm        Reply with quote

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I always have a hard time maintaining a normal sleep schedule, so I've taken to using melatonin to sort of keep my circadian rhythms on a human timeframe.

One thing I have noticed, though, is it gives you much more vivid (and immediate) dreams. They tend to be somewhat more dramatic than usual, and easier to remember.


Exact same boat here. I've dabbled in melatonin before, but not quite like now, where my sleep schedules are so terrible that I need the shit badly. Still, I somehow manage to forget to take it some nights, which is really annoying.

But yeah, I agree about the vivid dreams. I always can remember more of them the next day.

I also usually take 3.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:26 pm        Reply with quote

Does anyone here get sleep paralysis?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:28 pm        Reply with quote

OMG, special blend. it's funny you mention that.

a few years ago i experienced sleep paralysis for the first time--or that is, i was awake for it (as i understand everyone experiences it they just don't realise it).

my god, it was the single most terrifying experience of my life. i could feel my arms and legs "locking up" and my body trying to go in revolt, but being unable to. in this half-awake, half-dream state, i was even more terrified, had no idea what was going on, and no matter how hard i tried, i couldn't scream or cry out. fuck, that was so scary.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:35 pm        Reply with quote

i get that every now and then. it's pretty scary, though never as much as the first time.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:13 pm        Reply with quote

special blend wrote:
Does anyone here get sleep paralysis?


Yeah, I get that all the time.

Once you know what it is and that it will eventually wear off, it's not quite so panic-inducing.

Still. About as close as I'll come (I hope) to experiencing what full-body paralysis is like. Scary stuff.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:29 pm        Reply with quote

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Does anyone here get sleep paralysis?


How about the opposite? I have dreams lately where I am almost certain what my senses are feeling is real.
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