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ionustron
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Man, you love that article, don't you?
Then again, I'd probably jump on any excuse to drag that bad boy out, too. That thing scarred my mind.
(seriously folks it's a good/really fucking scary article and you should read it) |
Christ that article was overly unsettling. |
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zak
Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:14 pm |
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| for many of us, these are the insert credit forums, even if we're no longer associated with that domain. |
A hog lagoon, by any other name, is still a hog lagoon. |
Man, you love that article, don't you?
Then again, I'd probably jump on any excuse to drag that bad boy out, too. That thing scarred my mind.
(seriously folks it's a good/really fucking scary article and you should read it) |
Holy fuckin (pig) shit!
Truth may or may not be stranger than fiction, but it sure is scarier. And there's no point in ever reading horror again, since we have stuff like this.
There's a nice twist at the end, as with all horror stories:
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| Over the next five years, Smithfield plans to spend $800 million in Romania to change that. |
Fuck, that's where I live. And the crazy part is that the legislation is just dumb enough to let him do it. I just hope the EU has some solid laws on this subject, but in this part of europe nobody really gives a fuck about them. |
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BotageL
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:54 pm |
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ionustron
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 11:36 pm |
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| Over the next five years, Smithfield plans to spend $800 million in Romania to change that. |
Fuck, that's where I live. And the crazy part is that the legislation is just dumb enough to let him do it. I just hope the EU has some solid laws on this subject, but in this part of europe nobody really gives a fuck about them. |
Do you have any way of contacting your elected officials to stop/warn/voice concern? |
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The Blueberry Hill
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:00 am |
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Zak, a Romanian shop just opened across from me, what food related food item should I buy?
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boojiboy7
narcissistic irony-laden twat
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Location: take me on a blatant doom trip.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:11 am |
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| The Blueberry Hill wrote: |
| Zak, a Romanian shop just opened across from me, what food related food item should I buy? |
Yeah given the shitload of romanians in cleveland, this would be interesting to hear. |
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zak
Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:46 am |
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| ionustron wrote: |
| Do you have any way of contacting your elected officials to stop/warn/voice concern? |
Not really, because they don't care. A lot of officials are gonna make a lot of money out of this, so they have no interest in stopping the expansion. I live in the capital, so I doubt I'll ever see a hog lagoon arround here, but this still is really concerning.
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| Zak, a Romanian shop just opened across from me, what food related food item should I buy? |
Oh, what do they sell? You'd be better off going to a restaurant and eating some specialities.
I'd recommend sarmale (minced meat rolled in cabbage leaves), stuffed bell peppers, or even mamaliga (though you may have something like this in italy too).
You could buy some zacusca from a shop, or even some mititei (grill them and go crazy with beer and mustard). I also love eggplant salad.
Also, I hope my people aren't doint anything too embarrasing over there, but I know they are so I'm sorry. Most people that emigrate really do some good work, but others just steal, and it's giving the country a bad name. Can't be avoided I guess. |
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The Blueberry Hill
Joined: 12 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:19 pm |
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| zak wrote: |
| ionustron wrote: |
| Do you have any way of contacting your elected officials to stop/warn/voice concern? |
Not really, because they don't care. A lot of officials are gonna make a lot of money out of this, so they have no interest in stopping the expansion. I live in the capital, so I doubt I'll ever see a hog lagoon arround here, but this still is really concerning.
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| Zak, a Romanian shop just opened across from me, what food related food item should I buy? |
Oh, what do they sell? You'd be better off going to a restaurant and eating some specialities.
I'd recommend sarmale (minced meat rolled in cabbage leaves), stuffed bell peppers, or even mamaliga (though you may have something like this in italy too).
You could buy some zacusca from a shop, or even some mititei (grill them and go crazy with beer and mustard). I also love eggplant salad.
Also, I hope my people aren't doint anything too embarrasing over there, but I know they are so I'm sorry. Most people that emigrate really do some good work, but others just steal, and it's giving the country a bad name. Can't be avoided I guess. |
Don't worry, I'm not Italian, I don't hate your country ;)
Everyone steals here. A lot of Italians like to forget that and blame Romanians, Albanians, Zingari etc.
I'm always confused about the state of the EU, is Romania a full member now? I thought that hadn't happened yet.
I've eaten Dolma before, which the wiki article says are similar to Sarma, bloody delicious. I'll have to skip the Mamaliga: I can't stand polenta. Mititei was the dish I couldn't remember, saw two poms making a batch of them in a touring cooking show on TV. Everything else sounds pretty good. I'll pop in today or tomorrow to see what they've got.
What about Romanian beer and wine?
Oh, and please don't ever apologise for your country/people again.
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boojiboy7
narcissistic irony-laden twat
Joined: 04 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:56 pm |
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| Yeah dude, ain't no need to apologize for Romanians. I mean, yeah there are some not so cool ones, but there are some not so cool people from every country. I have met some totally awesome Romanian dudes and chicks, so they are cool with me. |
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zak
Joined: 07 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:00 pm |
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| I'm always confused about the state of the EU, is Romania a full member now? I thought that hadn't happened yet. |
Yes we are, for all the good it does... Things haven't really changed, but I guess it takes a (long) while.
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| "What about Romanian beer and wine? |
We're not that cool in the beer department; most of what I drink is imported beer, and I don't think we export any.
Wine, on the other hand, really has a tradition over here. There are several famous regions, each with their own brand, so you might try Cotnari, Feteasca, Jidvei, Mulfatlar, etc. Don't know which of these you can find abroad.
We also distill tuica and palinca. I actually have a summer house some 20 km away from town, with an apple orchard, and every summer I go down there, pick the apples, and make my own fucking alcohol, which means a lot of work for not so much booze (I'm not even that keen on the stuff). |
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BenoitRen
I bought RAM
Joined: 05 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:35 pm |
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You are a danger to the web.
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| Show me these millions. |
There are millions of Linux users. 'nuff said.
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| Also, if you are letting PDFs go becasue there is a free reader for it, gues what? So is there for DOC FILES. Yes, Adobe makes theirs free and MS doesn't. LEARN TO USE OTHER SOFTWARE THEN OH GOD WHY AM I BOTHERING WITH THIS!?!?!?!? |
A free viewer was not the only point, and it doesn't stand on its own. Adobe documents their format, M$ doesn't.
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| Firefox and Opera became more popular because they were quality |
Opera didn't become popular. It still has the adware stigma.
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| Hey, Bren... i'm pretty sure every operating system 'fresh out the box' can at least view if not edit docs. |
Not Windows. Well, they can view the text with Wordpad, but much formatting gets lost. Older Wordpad versions can't read most Word 97 and more recent documents.
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| With the improvements in IE7 there are now relatively few reasons to prefer Firefox. |
Just because it has tabs, or what? Its standards support is better, but still severely lacking. It still doesn't support XHTML, a standard from 1996, for fuck's sake! The rendering engine is still the same ancient one, and the security hasn't improved much.
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| Firefox has every bit as many security holes as IE but it's protected by its lower market share |
HOLD IT RIGHT THERE!
This is one of the most popular myths about Firefox on the Internet today. It's false. IE was designed with features in mind, not security. Its architecture is flawed. Not so with Firefox. IE gets patched slowly. Firefox gets patched quickly, and most of the time before the exploit is public. In 2006, IE users were unsafe for 260-something days. Firefox? 9 days.
More information...
[quote="psiga"]I keep IE around as my 'gaping security hole' browser, and only use it to access sites that I trust in the first place.[/url]
Careful, even sites that you trust aren't necessarily safe. They can be hacked. Mega Man Network got hijacked about a year back. IE users would get warnings from their security programs that Trojan horses are trying to get in, and users of other browsers didn't notice anything.
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| Also, Microsoft Office is just kind of a nice office suite y'know. There's really nothing better out there. |
It costs way too much money, and it's bloated as hell.
If anyone wants to continue this, can we please do it in another thread?
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Hot Stott Bot
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:08 am |
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| Also, Microsoft Office is just kind of a nice office suite y'know. There's really nothing better out there. |
It costs way too much money, and it's bloated as hell. |
It is still the best office suite out there. There's nothing wrong with paying for software when it does something you want.
Certainly, there's a courtesy issue with the format you provide the end-result in for public consumption, in that people should be able to view it freely. Of course, free viewers are available for the doc format so that common courtesy is met.
Now if one wants to boycott properietary formats for larger, philosophical purposes, that's fine, but I don't think that's appropriate to push on other people so long as the above common courtesy of a free viewer has been met in the same sense I don't think it is appropriate when people try to push any philosophical view on you whether it be religious, political, or otherwise.
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| If anyone wants to continue this, can we please do it in another thread? |
Split this thread toups. >_<
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Corinth
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:13 am |
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| Split this thread toups. >_< |
BenoitRen's FOSS Posting Den, stickied somewhere obscure.
Calling Office bloated when your main defense will probably be OO.o isn't very smart, though. |
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parkbench
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Open Office is capable, but I'm so unbelievably frustrated by the little features it lacks. Because Word is filled with them, and once it gets to about twenty or thirty little actions and shortcuts you're used to, well, you don't want to use it.
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boojiboy7
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:22 am |
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| Show me these millions. |
There are millions of Linux users. 'nuff said. |
Yes because people don't switch because it is free, dual boot it with windows, get curious, or whatever. Just because someone uses Linux doesn't mean they are going to flip out when someone posts a DOC. |
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Corinth
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| I mean, don't get me wrong - I use Open Office of my PC and NeoOffice on my Mac, and they work fine for me. But I recognize their failings and superiorities just as I do those of Office. |
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Hot Stott Bot
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:24 am |
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| boojiboy7 wrote: |
| BenoitRen wrote: |
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| Show me these millions. |
There are millions of Linux users. 'nuff said. |
Yes because people don't switch because it is free, dual boot it with windows, get curious, or whatever. Just because someone uses Linux doesn't mean they are going to flip out when someone posts a DOC. |
Guys, fyi, I use linux, because it is good for some stuff that windows is not good for, but I also use windows because it is good for some stuff that linux is not good for. |
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Hot Stott Bot
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| I mean, don't get me wrong - I use Open Office of my PC and NeoOffice on my Mac, and they work fine for me. But I recognize their failings and superiorities just as I do those of Office. |
I'm still not really sure what the strengths of Open Office are.
I mean, when I tried it for a while there was one thing... it had a kind of nice feature where you could give a specific formatting a name and then reuse it in any place that used formatting, however, ultimately, I found this feature was not as good as Microsoft's because while the formatting names used in the document were limited to the scope of the document (unlike OO) you were able to apply formatting elsewhere (such as in conditional formatting) that merely modified the existing formatting rather than replacing it entirely, which you could not do in OO.
I would kind of like some kind of centralized formatting scheme in MS Office, but not at that cost. >_<
Other than that there wasn't really anything I liked better. |
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Corinth
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:34 am |
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| To be honest, mostly that it is free in both meanings of the word. It can also do some SVG stuff and whatnot that other things can't, and you've got your native support for ODF and suchlike. I just use it because it's marginally easier than pirating Office in that I don't have to keep a disc around or futz for a key every time I need to install office software. |
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boojiboy7
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:41 am |
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| To be honest, mostly that it is free in both meanings of the word. It can also do some SVG stuff and whatnot that other things can't, and you've got your native support for ODF and suchlike. I just use it because it's marginally easier than pirating Office in that I don't have to keep a disc around or futz for a key every time I need to install office software. |
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Hot Stott Bot
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| Guys, I have a legitimate license for Microsoft Office. |
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Ebrey
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:49 am |
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| If anyone wants to continue this |
No. You are the world's most boring troll. Mix up your shtick a little. |
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Kappuru
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I enjoy the new office a lot actually. The ribbon interface, once you get used to it, really streamlines document creation / editing.
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BenoitRen
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I guess I'll continue in the assumption that this will get split off?
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| It is still the best office suite out there. |
Yeah, because it crashes a lot. Just ask my brother when he was forced to use it for a while to create an index. Unbelievable.
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| There's nothing wrong with paying for software when it does something you want. |
Of course not. But it costs a small fortune.
And I should just have pasted this link right away:
http://www.goldmark.org/netrants/no-word/attach.html
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| Calling Office bloated when your main defense will probably be OO.o isn't very smart, though. |
OpenOffice isn't that good. It's basically a half-good clone of Office, and quite slow because it's written in Java (thank you, Sun!).
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| Yes because people don't switch because it is free, dual boot it with windows, get curious, or whatever. |
I'm talking about real Linux users, not people who are curious.
| Ebrey wrote: |
| No. You are the world's most boring troll. Mix up your shtick a little. |
Maybe I'm a boring troll because I'm not actually a troll, you jerk.
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diplo
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:19 pm |
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| is benoit the other half of the brick construct that makes up the impenetrable monster ICYREN |
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boojiboy7
narcissistic irony-laden twat
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:32 pm |
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| BenoitRen wrote: |
| I'm talking about real Linux users, not people who are curious. |
yes and so many millions of those are out there, and give a fuck about DOC files so much that they made an open source way to read them.
and they dont take up time on this board to whine about it.
and yes you are a troll because you keep going. |
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dessgeega
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benoitren, you are knowingly picking the same fight again and again, despite everyone's already knowing (quite clearly) where you stand. this obsession with a single topic of discussion, and persistance in steering unrelated threads towards that topic, suggests to me the original meaning behind the term "troll": to bait, to lure, to troll for heated dialogue on a subject that is off-topic and of little interest to most posters on this forum - at least within a thread about the history of the site.
so, yes, you're trolling. please stop it.
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DJ
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:58 pm |
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| dessgeega correctly wrote: |
| you're trolling. please stop it. |
(god I wish we had girlbans here. how awesome would it be if anyone could edit all that proselytizing?)
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Cryo
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girlbans? please explain.
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DJ
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If you get girlbanned, anyone can edit your posts. So you're free to post whatever you want, but you're completely at the whims of everyone else as to whether you get to say anything besides "i choke on dicks lol"
Cures high-handed soapboxing real good.
Other variants are Pika-bans, where everything you say gets replaced with Pikachu-speak, or my own twist on it, Britter-bans, where everything "important" you were trying to say gets replaced with increasingly-horrible pictures of Britney Spears being a whore.
That last one takes a lot of effort but is oh so fun. Just imagine Benoit's last giant post replaced with a full size picture of this. It's magic.
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Renfrew
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Image the "epic lulz" we could have if Icy got girlbanned.
Edit: How did I end up typing "the" as "in?"
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Pijaibros
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| Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:13 pm |
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| Renfrew wrote: |
| Image in "epic lulz" we could have if Hot Stott Bot got girlbanned. |
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DJ
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There have been subforums where everyone is girlbanned by default. Things usually degenerate into goatse levels of intellectualism with alarming speed.
Still a neat idea, though. Nothing shows you how much people want you to shut the fuck up quite like having the entire forum intentionally deface everything you say because they're so tired of you.
I mean, come on.
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dhex
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| I'm talking about real Linux users, not people who are curious. |
so if someone dual boots with windows and linux does that make them bi-curious?
(the answer better be yes)
(bah the answer is yes)
(yes)
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psiga
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| Renfrew wrote: |
Image the "epic lulz" we could have if Icy got girlbanned.
Edit: How did I end up typing "the" as "in?" |
Because your brain was trying to complete the thought of opening the sentence with the word 'imagine'.
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http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html
'' A Group Is Its Own Worst Enemy. '' |
A great link, relevant, which I have now bookmarked. If we had a karma system I T F, I'd give you karma for that.
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Renfrew
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| psiga wrote: |
| Renfrew wrote: |
Image the "epic lulz" we could have if Icy got girlbanned.
Edit: How did I end up typing "the" as "in?" |
Because your brain was trying to complete the thought of opening the sentence with the word 'imagine'. |
Possibly.
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The Blueberry Hill
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We're not that cool in the beer department; most of what I drink is imported beer, and I don't think we export any.
Wine, on the other hand [...] |
Not cool in the beer department my arse. I bought a 2 litre (mabe 2.6) plastic bottle of beer for €2.
They don't have any wine, but I got some nice salami, cheese, and sarmale.
They have heaps of delicious looking jars of bean spready/dippy things.
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BenoitRen
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| boojiboy7 wrote: |
| yes and so many millions of those are out there, and give a fuck about DOC files so much that they made an open source way to read them. |
Indeed. So where was your argument again?
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| benoitren, you are knowingly picking the same fight again and again, despite everyone's already knowing (quite clearly) where you stand. |
But you people keep arguing BACK about it. So I'm constantly being baited back, too. Trolls.
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