There is a bioshock demo on marketplace RIGHT NOW!

boojiboy7 · Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:10 pm

"What nation could be meant for me?"

or something.

And then the communist paranoia that is so rand it hurts. Oh god, I think I might make love to this game.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:27 pm

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boojiboy7 · Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:48 pm

boojiboy7 · Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:06 pm

boojiboy7 · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:52 am

Health packs are just a way to allow a health meter to take up less space.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:49 pm

boojiboy7 · Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:36 pm

Ayn Rand is one of my favorite comedy writers.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:16 pm

all i remember is that there isn't a single sex scene in Atlas Shrugged (which, for a book not about sex, had a shitload of them) in which Dangy didn't seem like she got off on the ability of her partner to fuck her against her will.

Certainly sends an odd message about sexuality, since both her and the people she fucks are supposed to be paragons of human virtue.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:22 pm

boojiboy7 · Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:35 pm

Oh, I cna understand bieng into rough stuff, and that is fine. It is just that Dagny, in AS, seems to like having a sexual partner that rapes her. Literally, too, not even as a fantasy. When she knows it isn't rape, it doesn't work for her (when Rearden lets up on her, she leaves, pretty much). And she is given as the ideal woman.

Yeah, it is a little troubling.

I think the reason such things don't bother me with Joyce is that Bloom is not meant to be someone we look up to. He is a perv, and he knows it, and Joyce wants us to know him as such. That he masturbates in front of a girl with some sort of physical developmental issue (she has a fake leg, right?) is just the most outward sign of how messed up his understanding of sexuality is. Hell, Circe dives right into it, and if you can read that section and not think the man has some problems, well...

Ulysses is also a lot shorter than Atlas Shrugged.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:38 pm

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boojiboy7 · Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:13 pm

boojiboy7 · Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:02 pm

boojiboy7 · Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:34 pm

No, Rand is enjoyable enough as a read. In fact, from what I know of the Fountainhead, it doesn't get that weird till about halfway through. I haven't read it though, so ask Goose. Atlas Shrugged is insane from like the first 10 pages on.

Also, yeah, Andrew Ryan from Bioshock is meant to be a Rand character, so your joining it up to the Fountainhead is intentional. Now, what Rand character he is meant to be is a little rougher to directly align. I mean, he is an architect, but he is also totally John Galt.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:52 pm

I don't have links to developers, but I can go on what I know about Rand and what I know from the demo.

dhex put a link above though, I think.

Anyhow, Rand's personal philosophy is a little hard to glibly summarize. It's called Objectivism, and basically what it ends up meaning is that every person should be entitled to everything they can get and shouldn't be held back fiscally or morally by anyone else in society. That doesn't cover it all, but you can look at Wikipedia or finish Fountainhead to get the full gist.

Anyhow (ATLAST SHRUGGED SPOILERS) In AS, John Galt sets up a hidden society where all the smart and hardworking people who follow Rand's ideas and are sick of people taking their shit go. It appears in Bioshock that Andrew Ryan thought a similar way, and set up Rapture as such. When you come into the game, the Rapture project seems to have gone wrong, and it seems to be linked to the plasmids, which were made by scientists "freed from morality" (or some such as Ryan's voice tells you on the sub ride). So the game seems to be about what would bring such a society down in the end, maybe?

boojiboy7 · Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:53 pm

boojiboy7 · Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:48 am

man i am going to be like at EB the second they open for my game.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:33 pm

boojiboy7 · Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:16 pm

boojiboy7 · Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:22 pm

Yeah, i am listening to them now, and I guess they aren't bad for Moby stuff, but yeah, not the game.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:28 pm

yeah. as for some bonus from gamestop....hmmm, i didn't get one.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:30 pm

I have been playing it on the xbox today, and I didn't really notice any issue with the widescreen. I mean, I know logistically it is there, but it hasn't been a problem in the game so far.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:47 pm

i like the enemies.

they are honest about what they are. And they say some great stuff if you are hidden from them.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:17 pm

What did people expect the enemies to be?

boojiboy7 · Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:26 pm

Well, the masks are sorta explained. There are some translucent things around.

But more than that, this is supposed to have been a closed environment city. There wouldn't be very many animals running around at all.

EDIT: Where are the people with blades for hands? Everyone I met has been using pipes and such, and weapons that they drop when I hit them. The grenadiers are hilariously awesome.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:41 pm

hmmm...good question. It says NEW YEAR 1959 on the sign, but i don't know about conventions for that.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:46 pm

boojiboy7 · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:01 am

The full game is a bit less gung-ho that the demo, but there are still some fire fights and such.

The injection right at the beginning is a bit odd, but there are two things I think about it. First, well, the guy doesn't know about all the genetic mutation shit. Secondly, Atlas and the player might not be the heroes here.

Now, this still doesn't mean if I was in the dude's place I would jam that needle in my arm, but yeah.

EDIT: Yeah the tats on his wrists make him seem a little less than perfect.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:48 am

Guys, I really wish you would just play the whole game. Things are a lot more open in the game than in the demo.

Also, plasmids are also getting close to being explained, maybe?

boojiboy7 · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:50 am

the little sisters don't kill shit.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:57 am

Krab, seriously, play the game, not the demo.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:59 am

boojiboy7 · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:01 am

boojiboy7 · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:24 am

oh no, criticize away.

just, you know, play the game a bit.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:03 pm

Shaper, I am with you entirely on this. Fuck that one Doom moment was fucking HOLY SHIT scary.

Also, about the AI, I love that if there is a health machine near by, the enemies will use it to heal if you are fucking them up.

Another also, I wonder if mr. protagonist might be involved with Rapture before the game, and might know about Plasmids is some way.

boojiboy7 · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:10 pm

boojiboy7 · Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:42 pm

Why does he get in the ball? Because he is in the middle of the fucking ocean and the odds of rescue are pretty fucking slim? He has nothing else to do? He either dies from hypothermia in the ocean, dies from starvation sitting on the island, or gets in the ball and see what happens.

EDIT: Christ, why does Gordon Freeman get off of the train? Why does pacman both eating those pellets? Why does anyone in a game not just sit around and do nothing and wait for eventual death?