[EmX]

http://nifflas.ni2.se/index.php?main=02Knytt_Stories&sub=03Download

Oh god oh god it's got a LEVEL EDITOR!!

[psiga]

Sultry.
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[Marshmallow]

Man, the first episode I played was huge. I was like, whoa!

[dessgeega]

i just got done playing the included episode (which has a very nice 16-bit sensibility, with a huge world gradually opening up as you unlock new abilities). the ending made me gasp.

i'm downloading expansions now.
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[Shapermc]

So does this game have the same godawful resolution as Knytt?
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The bad sleep well at The Gamer's Quarter

[alice]

can someone explain to me why knytt is a game and not a series of pictures.

My patience which got me to the final boss of La-MULANA couldn't last three anymore than 30 minutes of knytt.

[dmauro]

[dessgeega]

riven is a series of pictures and it's the most engrossing videogame ever made.

"a strange dream" is an absolutely wonderful episode, and has a totally different vibe than the included game.

shaper: yes. yes, yes, yes.
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[Jeff Garneau]

cannot load directorypacker.mfx. this object might need an external program or library not yet installed :( wine

[Shapermc]

[hyouko]

[Shapermc]

[Mikey]

Yes, I'm glad I can go back and explore! I had that same blue key and nowhere to use it and I was sad.

Shit, these games have the best music in the universe.

At first I thought I was going to be really put off by all the powerups and stuff, but I guess it's okay. I think they should have left out the one that gives you the 'danger glow' though. Until you get it, it makes things kind of tense because even the fairly innocent looking stuff in this game is dangerous, at times.

[dessgeega]

well, anyone who makes a "story" is free to omit any or all of the power-ups. you can seemingly also have the player start with those abilities instead.
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[Mr Peckerston]

[Jeff Garneau]

hell yes thanks brah

[Mikey]

[Mr Peckerston]

Everyone should play "an underwater adventure" from the official expansion; it's like an actual game with puzzles and bad guys and stuff.

[chevluh]

Anybody can spoil me the location of the purple key?

[Marshmallow]

protip: the umbrella also blocks enemy projectiles. It's saved my skin a number of times!

[dessgeega]

[Mr Peckerston]

I've gone through all of Nifflas' stories this evening. Sky flower is my favourite too but an underwater adventure is a nice change of pace. It even features everyone's favourite bits of Ocarina of Time (puzzles based around changing the water level) and Mega Man (falling through long tunnels lined with insta-kill spikes)

[dessgeega]

an underwater adventure is so good it's almost unfair. it's also, probably appropriately, the closest to within a deep forest in design.
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[BotageL]

I gave the built-in scenario (The Machine, right?), as well as Underwater Adventure and part of the dream one a shot. I definitely liked it better than Knytt (as I actually finished the default and Underwater scenarios), but it still kind of seems like an engine demo more than anything else. There's just not all that much really done with the gameplay in the scenarios I tried; you get your stock platformer powerups (minus any method of offense, which I like) and brute force your way to the goal. I know, it's about "atmosphere," but the complete lack of any sort of death penalty turns the game (especially Underwater Adventure) into a tedious exercise in memorization. The very last puzzle of Underwater Adventure's a great example of this - sure, you could spend the time to figure out the right solution to each step, or you could just try one at random. You've a one-in-three chance of getting it right for each of the five parts, and since the positions never change there's really no incentive to play the puzzle the "right" way. Really, the scenarios I tried all relied on pulling Jinsei Owata moments - killing the player via a hidden threat they probably would not have noticed and dodged unless it had already killed them once.

I guess I just don't quite get what this game is trying to do. As an atmosphere piece, it feels too "game-y," and as a platform game it's just not especially rewarding.
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[Dracko]

And honestly, I haven't figured out the rationale behind the final puzzle of Underwater Adventure at all. Maybe I'm just being thick.
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[BotageL]

From what I figured out from before I brute-forced it, you're finishing the pattern, which appears to start at the top left and goes down each column. The pieces sometimes rotate, too. It appears to depend on the particular section of the puzzle, but around the third or fourth one I just started guessing.
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[Isfet]

this was really unexpected, but i'm glad it exists. i've played The Machine for a little bit and so far i'm really enjoying it.

i think like some others, i was initially put off by the idea of powerups. i thought it might disturb the simplicity that the first game seemed to pull off so well. but it doesn't seem to have hurt it too much, and if anything, it's at least as enjoyable as Knytt.

so there are expansions for this game, too? i'll download them when i finish the first scenario.


i assume at some point we're all going to be creating and sharing levels, right?

[bleak]

Man, PC only? what is this nonsense? I want to play. :(

[dmauro]

An Underwater Adventure final two puzzle spoilers (because the first three are pretty easy):

The correct solution to the second to the last one is the red f because it is the only shape you can make with the other letters of the same color (by overlaying them).

The third choice for the final one is correct because the first row is all shapes made of one line, the second row is all made from two lines, and the third row is all made from three lines.

[dessgeega]

i am fairly certain i am going to have to make an episode for this.
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[DJ]

I've never played this but always intended to. Since my default gaming PC is down and I'm on a backup laptop, I guess now is as good a time as any, yes?

Also hell yes I already want to make a level for this.
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[internisus]

Man, I don't know if I'm just very different from you others in some way, but I don't feel too stoked to make areas like those in Knytt. I enjoyed it, but it doesn't get my creative energies flowing exactly. I guess Knytt Stories must be fundamentally different because of the increased game factor?

[dessgeega]

it's a pretty solid platforming engine. the official expansions take it in some pretty interesting directions.
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[DJ]

Alright someone help me with this: Is there any way to get this game to accept input from my 360 pad plugged into my PC, or am I stuck using the fucking keyboard? I love this game but the lack of joypad is driving me nuts.
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[dessgeega]

joytokey? it's what i've been using.
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[psiga]

I was gonna recommend that while he and I were gtalkingz earlier, but the topic went toward Siren instead.

Okay, so I completed Stories' regular mode. Now have to hunt down the keys which I totally did not see any of while playing the game regularly. Then start maybe picking up some add-on levels.

This thing is so charming in general.
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[wpham]

I just loaded this up while transferring files between my PC and laptop; the game (specifically, the included full episode) oozes charm out of its pores, from the angle that the protagonist carries his umbrella to the shifts in visual and aural mood from zone to zone.

I also like the save system; to me, it's funny how a similar system in a game like Bioshock makes the concept of death completely redundant and seems facile. Here, I'm not thinking of that -- instead, I'm delighted (you might even say my fancy is tickled) at how it encourages trial-and-error.

Once I get through the included episode and the downloadable levels, I'll see about making one of my own.

edit: Just finished the Machine. I'm going to start on the other episodes now.
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last.fm

[bat]

Two perfect moments in the machine, both to do with music:

The first comes when you get to the first area of the game with any noticeable plantlife and the music suddenly changes from stark minimalism to bright and happy.

To preface the second moment, the section where it gets all black and cave-y was actually (to me) quite creepy, especially with the lack of any movement and sound other than your own. So then the second perfect moment comes when you get the invisible eye, and suddenly there are ghosts EVERYWHERE and its such a contrast coupled with the awesome industrial beats that kick in.

This game gives me goosebumps all around, but now im stuck (i think) relatively early on! :(
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super FLORENCE jam

[wpham]

There's a moment as you're crossing back over the top of the black zone and you're on a cliff, overlooking a giant ravine, and there's no music -- just the wind, accompanied by the sparse animation of a few birds. It's a pretty great moment. I got flashbacks to playing through Metroid as a kid (which was one of the scariest games on the NES for me).
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[Clueless Gamer]

[psiga]

The full screen mode displayed at an incorrect aspect on my laptop. Kinda weird. Still, it's worth a shot since it may look fine on a different display.

I recommend playing it rather than not playing it, just in general. Charming experience.
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