KNYTT STORIES

Max Cola · Joined: 15 Dec 2006 Location: a shotgun shack

A Strange Dream is wonderful; like The Machine but far more nonlinear. It doesn't really matter where you go, because there is more than one location to find each power-up, and I can't think of a lot of places where I was stuck. Usually you find another ability and then come across a place where you can use it while exploring. I beat the game without even trying to - I just came across the ending area (which is a series of tricky little platform challenges that top off the experience rather nicely) while wandering around. It's big, too. I'll bet there are quite a few different orders in which one could get the power-ups and a handful of secret areas to boot.

This Level Is Unfinished is cute, but there's a great part where you come across an area so incomplete that there isn't even sketchy grass or little animals, and all is silent as you jump over little notes for traps that don't exist.
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internisus · shafer sephiroth Joined: 04 Dec 2006

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internisus · shafer sephiroth Joined: 04 Dec 2006

Who knows -- you could be right or you could be wrong. But I say again, this glue you're talking about in Knytt is at odds with the nature of the game. It's ripe for aimless, wandering exploration, and having a light beam that points towards the nearest item as a goal undermines that. I don't think the game needed goals or even a premise at all.

dessgeega · damaged Joined: 05 Dec 2006

i've updated all my levels. yes, in preparation for posting them on the official forums. they all now have categories and descriptions, and other small changes have been made (the shaft above the river in under the crack has been narrowed so a freefalling player has time to react; a save point has been added in between the two spike rooms in the oubliette). download links are in this thread and on my website.
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internisus · shafer sephiroth Joined: 04 Dec 2006

Thank you, Dess!

I look forward to a favorable reaction on the forums.

manguero · Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, LA

hey dess, i dig your level. some of the jumps are tricky but you have plenty of save points, so it works out well--challenging, but not frustrating. also, i think you captured the prince of persia vibe nicely with the wall jumps and close calls. great job!

i've played through the machine, a strange dream, the expansion, and several mentioned on the favorites sub-forum. i really love "a walk at night" and "rain." and if y'all haven't played "don't eat the mushroom" yet, you really need to.

EDIT: oh wait, dess has three levels! well the other two are great also. in under the crack i liked how, while the second part of the level was entirely backtracking, it was by a different route than before. i like this kind of backtracking. as for torchlight, i really liked the atmosphere, especially the screen first going down into the ground, and then towards the end with all the red eyes. also, good use of climbable vs. non-climbable walls.

sawtooth · heh Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: flashback

I got Knytt Stories working under Wine yessss!

Don't Eat the Mushroom is really great.
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Intentionally Wrong · Joined: 05 Dec 2006

Not sure how many of you guys saw this over on the Gamer's Quarter, but Nifflas announced that he is no longer updating Knytt Stories, and that he has no plans to make additional levels for the game. It's unfortunate, but entirely understandable.
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psiga · saudade Joined: 04 Dec 2006

Curious. I wish the guy well.

Although I honestly was kinda excited by the things that were going to be added to KE, there's no reason to complain if he just feels that the wind isn't in his sails anymore. Level editor in KS will keep a lot of the spirit alive, at any rate.
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Koji · Joined: 04 Dec 2006

I'm happy that he's working on new, exciting projects.
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chevluh · Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Switzerland

Given the fact his games are the product of being free to do whatever he wants, I can understand how he was getting more and more unhappy with what was essentially a big community project.

internisus · shafer sephiroth Joined: 04 Dec 2006

I'm a little confused; has he simply abandoned this Knytt Experiment thing (which I had not even heard of until now) or is he also not going to release new versions of Knytt Stories? Is he still going to periodically place third-party level packs on his website of the best levels introduced on his forums?

Generally yes I have to agree with the sentiment that this is one artist whom I would hate to see bogged down by the wants of his fans.

chevluh · Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Location: Switzerland

Intentionally Wrong · Joined: 05 Dec 2006

So, the first Exquisite Knorpse was kind of riddled with flaws. It flowed poorly, and had far too much variance in quality. The hard parts were often too hard, and the easy parts were way too easy. It was probably more rewarding to watch than to play.

From Saltwater Breach was the same idea twisted in a new direction on this very forum: what if you never gain new abilities? It sprawled rather randomly, though, and it wasn't always obvious when you were committing to a ridiculously hard section.

We've tried to learn from some of these mistakes.

Exquisite Knorpse 2 picks up right where the first game left off. Version 1.5 now available.

Warning: this game gets hard. Also, some images in the game are not work-safe. Also, it's... uh... around 96MB. It's large.

BotageL · Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:52 am

Hot damn.
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P1d40n3 · Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Location: Rain

Loved it right up to the point where you get the double jump in the sewers with no save point.
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Daphaknee · Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:36 am

proof that toups should never be allowed to design a game level ever ever

TOUPS YOU RUINED EVERYTHING
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P1d40n3 · Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Location: Rain

Wait...what?
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Daphaknee · Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:56 am

L · ⌐ Joined: 05 Dec 2006

I can forgive him, but not that very irresponsible person who took a copy of his section's "reward screen" (i.e the one with the song) and went and banged it onto the side of a completely different section entirely.

Proverbially speaking.

Daphaknee · Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:54 pm

maybe becasue they wanted people to actually be able to see it without having to play his stupid fucking level

glossolalia · Joined: 04 Mar 2008

don't you know by now, toups hates fun

P1d40n3 · Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Location: Rain

Yeah, I'm not even going to bother with this knorpse 2.0. I was nice, but this sewer thing has just shut me down.
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Intentionally Wrong · Joined: 05 Dec 2006

To be fair, the sewers WERE made by Kayin, creator of I Wanna Be The Guy. They could have been so much worse.
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Zmann · Joined: 16 Dec 2006

Apparently I am good a video games in this thread. I got sewers on second try. The first time I died that one screen transition where it goes land->NO LAND. I didn't find it particularly difficult. Some of the later stuff is considerably more annoying than that.

P1d40n3 · Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Location: Rain

BotageL · Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:10 am

I didn't really have any trouble with the sewer. If you thought that segment was annoying, though, yeah, don't play the rest of the Knorpse. The water shrine would make you weep.

(PROTIP for anyone man enough to keep playing: ignore the sign, do it without the eye and hologram; it's far far more satisfying that way.)
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P1d40n3 · Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Location: Rain

So I edited the file, put a save point where it should have been, and now I'm stuck on the quick time event. I press D...and get nothing. And I was liking it again and everything.
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BotageL · Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:18 am

don't you have the umbrella?

i'm not even sure how you'd get to the qte without already having the umbrella, unless there's a clever route i missed and/or there are multiple qtes
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L · ⌐ Joined: 05 Dec 2006

Hey guys, in Knorpse 2 I managed to best Death itself.

It... was pretty refreshing! We could do with more of that sort of thing.

Intentionally Wrong · Joined: 05 Dec 2006

Nice work, L! That's not easy.

Frocto has started LPing this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unNExQ4ehXE

BotageL · Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:51 pm

Pretty sure this room is impossible without the hologram. Believe me, I've been trying for an hour. The random order of the fireball sprays combined with waiting on the laser beam timing make it just too tight.

Oh well, it was a good run.

L · ⌐ Joined: 05 Dec 2006

BotageL · Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:25 am

I could (and probably will) but it feels like cheating.

Maybe I'll just tweak the room so it's passable without using the hologram. Still cheating, but my kind of cheating.
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P1d40n3 · Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Location: Rain

BotageL · Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:01 am

Sounds like it! I wasn't aware it was possible to enter the village other than through the map complex. Hack yourself in an umbrella, I guess!
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HarveyQ · Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:17 am

all this talk of having to hack in shit makes me really not want to play this : \

as tough as the SB knorpse could be, there were never any sections where you could get fucked over to that degree, thanks to the limited skillset.
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dessgeega · damaged Joined: 05 Dec 2006

it is playable if you edit in a tunnel from the start screen to the finish screen

META GAME
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