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Ebrey



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:29 am    Post subject: Is anyone else here more social in group settings?    Reply with quote

Recently I realized that I am more sociable in groups, rather than one on one, and it explains some of the weird friendships I've had. I get along best with people who are pretty similar to me and thus, they're also more talkative in group settings. Either I don't hang out with them one on one, or we're not as fun when we're by ourselves. It's like we need a bunch of people around so we can talk to each other.

This strikes me as kind of funny, but hell, lots of people have stranger social issues. Is anyone else the same way?

Oh, and for some strange reason I have fantastic one-on-one online chats with my friends who are more talkative at parties.
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Baron Patsy
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:33 am        Reply with quote

I am the exact opposite!
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Gin
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:44 am        Reply with quote

I am never good at talking!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:56 am        Reply with quote

I got over being shit at socialising a while back.
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cthuljew



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:57 am        Reply with quote

I'm exactly the same way. Makes it really hard to impress girls with my wit, because when it's just me and her, I'm like a fucking rock. Get me in a group of three or more, and I'm the life of the fucking party. It sucks.
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aderack



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:13 am        Reply with quote

Baron Patsy wrote:
I am the exact opposite!
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Ebrey



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:15 am        Reply with quote

I wonder which is more common. Probably Patsy/Eric-Jon.
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Baron Patsy
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:20 am        Reply with quote

To elaborate: I sometimes suffer from panic attacks when in group settings, so naturally I perform better socially when not in such a setting.
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aderack



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:34 am        Reply with quote

A single person is company. A group of people is a crowd.

That's about it, really. If I'm alone, I can concentrate; if I'm with someone, I can be attentive and communicate; if I'm around a bunch of people, I can... sit around and twiddle my thumbs.

There are exceptions, always, of course. Especially if everyone around me is hand-picked and relatively low-key.

I guess the thing is, the only way I'm used to interacting is with a certain level of intimacy. If I can't maintain a certain connection, I get lonelier than when I'm on my own. And I kind of just want to go away somewhere, so at least I have myself to keep me company.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:40 am        Reply with quote

i think the trick to socializing in groups if you're more of a solo person is to just try to take control of the conversation. it's only hard to keep track of all the chatter going on in a group unless you're controlling the flow!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:57 am        Reply with quote

ugh another one of these threads

i want the axe back so i don't have to see this shit in general
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:59 am        Reply with quote

Guys I will repost my important story about hot dogs in general soon since I fear the world cannot do without it.
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internisus
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:13 am        Reply with quote

Eric-Jon Rössel Waugh wrote:
A single person is company. A group of people is a crowd.

That's about it, really. If I'm alone, I can concentrate; if I'm with someone, I can be attentive and communicate; if I'm around a bunch of people, I can... sit around and twiddle my thumbs.

There are exceptions, always, of course. Especially if everyone around me is hand-picked and relatively low-key.

I guess the thing is, the only way I'm used to interacting is with a certain level of intimacy. If I can't maintain a certain connection, I get lonelier than when I'm on my own. And I kind of just want to go away somewhere, so at least I have myself to keep me company.


This makes a lot of sense to me, but don't you ever feel like you simply don't know what to talk about? I think that's why some people feel more comfortable in groups -- there's much less pressure to be responsible for conversation.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:58 am        Reply with quote

Hot Stott Bot wrote:
Guys I will repost my important story about hot dogs in general soon since I fear the world cannot do without it.

Does it involve Christopher Walken?

Guardian: often! I don't know how people find so many words as they do. The fewer the parties, the less essential I find conversation. You're involved whether you say anything or not, allowing for more subtlety. The more people, the more you have to fight for involvement -- otherwise you just get dragged along. That kind of sucks.

Again, though, everything depends. Especially if you're with a few other people who don't require much conversational maintenance. Hard to get together a group like that, though.
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Ebrey



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:11 am        Reply with quote

SplashBeats wrote:
ugh another one of these threads

i want the axe back so i don't have to see this shit in general


Dude this is not one of those threads and was never supposed to be in the axe. I find this kind of stuff interesting and people who don't think about how their brains work are being silly.

Eric-Jon wrote:
The more people, the more you have to fight for involvement -- otherwise you just get dragged along.


You should never have to fight for involvement. If you're someone who is shy in groups, people probably think it is strange that you are not talking and will be happy when you speak up. If you're someone who functions better in groups, then whatever you say will be wickedly entertaining and thus welcomed by all. There is no need to "fight."

And Guardian really hit the nail on the head. If someone has seen you being smart and funny and charming at a party where you are one of twelve people, and then you have to be smart and funny for half of the conversation, it puts a lot of pressure on you. It gets easier the longer you know someone, but still... some people just function better in groups.
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internisus
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:32 am        Reply with quote

You know, it's not even that, really. I mean. Like, most conversations that people have, or not even conversations but long streams of talk I guess, well they're probably composed largely of something like this:

A: random thing that was on my mind
B: response to thing
A: response to response
etc. this is a conversation
B: tangent
A: response to tangent
etc. this is still a conversation
A: [...]
B: [...]
okay that conversation has ended, that's fine, be cool
B: random thing that was on my mind
A: response to thing
wtf is this another conversation it is like magic

What amazes me is that these people just say things that they are thinking about without worrying about, hey! maybe the person I am with does not give a shit about this random thing!

But if you follow that line of thought, then people have no way in which to relate to one-another at all!

On the other hand, that doubt, and that reluctance to presume to speak of whatever!

But that silence! We need to have a conversation!

and this is why I am only really comfortable one-on-one with a very, very good friend whom I have known for a long time, because with someone like that I don't worry about what I'm going to say. I can just be myself. I wish I could do as much with a stranger! But I can't get out of the above conundrum.
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cthuljew



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:12 am        Reply with quote

internisus wrote:
this is why I am only really comfortable one-on-one with a very, very good friend whom I have known for a long time, because with someone like that I don't worry about what I'm going to say.\


I feel the same way, but with a twist. Me and my friends operate on the assumption that if you don't have anything valuable to say, don't say anything. As such, when I hang out one-on-one with friends, we tend to not say too much. Now, this is of course not true of all my friends, but for quite a number of them. If all parties involved agree that silence isn't awkward, then sitting around at a friend's house, being involved in my own stuff, be it reading or video games or surfing the web, is just as valuable as time spent conversing or arguing or playing games together, and is often more valuable than time spent bullshitting or doing stupid stuff.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:57 am        Reply with quote

well I think everyone is obviously comfortable with good friends, whether it's an individual or a group of them. still, everyone would lean towards a side, I'm pretty sure I prefer socializing with just one or two, so it doesn't feel like everyone's competing for everyone's attention with different passionate interests all at once.

but with acquaintances you know a little, yet not all that well, does anyone else feel just the opposite? I'd feel better in a group, there's no pressure for anyone "leading" the conversation, but throwing out topics and seeing what sticks. everyone can just go "hey you know ______?" (maybe at least one person knows!) and you learn more about everyone by noticing who's speaking up, and who's politely listening. one-on-one, the latter might end up feeling awkwardly silent.
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Lick Meth



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:24 am        Reply with quote

I've always been terrible at conversations, mainly because I don't (and can't) get out much any more. A friend told me that all people do any more is talk about what happened to other people, that we have nothing to talk about with ourselves (unless something amazing happened or happens), and that all other people do is get drunk and steal cones.

Goddamn things.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:12 pm        Reply with quote

internisus wrote:
and this is why I am only really comfortable one-on-one with a very, very good friend whom I have known for a long time, because with someone like that I don't worry about what I'm going to say. I can just be myself. I wish I could do as much with a stranger! But I can't get out of the above conundrum.

if you say something that was on your mind randomly, and said conversant does not give a shit, you're probably likely to not be friends them in either case.
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Ebrey



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:21 pm        Reply with quote

bleak wrote:
internisus wrote:
and this is why I am only really comfortable one-on-one with a very, very good friend whom I have known for a long time, because with someone like that I don't worry about what I'm going to say. I can just be myself. I wish I could do as much with a stranger! But I can't get out of the above conundrum.

if you say something that was on your mind randomly, and said conversant does not give a shit, you're probably likely to not be friends them in either case.


Friendships work many different ways. In one friendship you might just talk about random shit, since you both know the other person has nothing better to talk about. In another friendship you might be silent most of the time, since you are comfortable that way. In another friendship you might tell your friend "that was the stupidest shit I've ever heard" when they say something that doesn't interest you, and you could both be comfortable with that.

The point is, with a new friend you're not sure whether they would rather talk about anything, or not talk, or be brutally honest to each other, or whatever. And in a group setting you can just be quiet until you have something hilarious to say, which you're sure everyone will appreciate.
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Daphaknee
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:02 am        Reply with quote

i'm pretty fine in any situation, i love meeting new people so much

and i really really enjoy putting people in awkward situations and see how they pull through
that makes me sound like an asshole but i dont really do it in a mean way

im always just curious about people

ebrey i didnt make you feel awkward did i no i dont think so
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sarsamis



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:04 am        Reply with quote

I'm best in groups of 3 or 4 usually.
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Ebrey



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:07 am        Reply with quote

daphny: Nope you didn't make me feel awkward. I'm most talkative in groups where I know half the people, and I'm drunk, but I felt pretty comfortable around you guys. Someday I will get drunk with you and become really offensive (ie awesome) and you can be as mean as you want.
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alice
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:25 am        Reply with quote

I hate group settings with a passion.
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bleak
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:38 am        Reply with quote

Daphaknee wrote:
i'm pretty fine in any situation, i love meeting new people so much

and i really really enjoy putting people in awkward situations and see how they pull through
that makes me sound like an asshole but i dont really do it in a mean way

im always just curious about people
me too, but it's more out of the fact that people tend to act more sincerely when they're out of their comfort zones
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The Drunken Samurai
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:56 pm        Reply with quote

Baron Patsy wrote:
I am the exact opposite!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:21 pm        Reply with quote

I get along pretty easily with any number of people in any situation. Getting along with people is easy.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:19 am        Reply with quote

depends on my mood, really.

if I'm tired I don't want to talk to anyone about anything. but sometimes I'm pretty bubbly.
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