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icycalm



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:38 pm    Post subject: Senko no Ronde down to 9.99 in the US and A    Reply with quote

http://www.gamestop.com/gs/weeklyad/current/101207/default.asp?affid=3002&mc_id=1012nl

Guess all those reviews that gave it low scores for being priced at $60 will have to be edited now.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:41 pm        Reply with quote

Most games get cheap as time passes, and no one edits their reviews. Why should they treat this one any differently?
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Moogs



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:45 pm        Reply with quote

Eudaimon wrote:
Most games get cheap as time passes


Yeah, but how many have dropped fifty dollars in four months?

Also, you clearly do not understand icy.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:46 pm        Reply with quote

Maybe if they would have sold it for $20 in the first place they would have had good enough reviews to sell at least three times as many copies.

Too bad I bought it for $30 a few weeks back :(

-Wes
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:47 pm        Reply with quote

Dude at least you didn't pay $60 like I did!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:49 pm        Reply with quote

I have edited my review.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:50 pm        Reply with quote

SuperWes wrote:
Maybe if they would have sold it for $20 in the first place they would have had good enough reviews to sell at least three times as many copies.


I think most of the bad reviews came from people who just didn't understand how to play the game. Listing the $60 price tag as a flaw was just a low blow. One that was deserved, perhaps, but still...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:52 pm        Reply with quote

DaleNixon wrote:
Dude at least you didn't pay $60 like I did!


Same here.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:01 pm        Reply with quote

Moogs wrote:
SuperWes wrote:
Maybe if they would have sold it for $20 in the first place they would have had good enough reviews to sell at least three times as many copies.


I think most of the bad reviews came from people who just didn't understand how to play the game. Listing the $60 price tag as a flaw was just a low blow. One that was deserved, perhaps, but still...


If due to a perceived lack of "replay value*" Senko deserved to lose points for being priced the same as every other game out there, then half the games on store shelves right now deserve negative review scores.



*warning: bullshit video game journalism term -- see also: gameplay
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:13 pm        Reply with quote

Pikachu wrote:
If due to a perceived lack of "replay value*" Senko deserved to lose points for being priced the same as every other game out there, then half the games on store shelves right now deserve negative review scores.


I think it was probably a perceived lack of "money spent developing and localizing game," that people complained about the price. If you pay $60 for a game it had better feel like it cost more than $60 for the developers to make it. I mean, they didn't even have an english dubbing option. How much more overtly budget-game-at-full-price can you get?

Also, there is most certainly a lack of "replay value" when there's never anyone else playing it when you get online for a quick match. This may have also been improved by lower initial pricing.

It would have made really made waves as a $15-20 Live Arcade download.

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Mikey



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:38 pm        Reply with quote

So uh, I just print out that pdf and bring it in, eh? For 9.99 I can hardly go wrong.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:43 pm        Reply with quote

Mikey wrote:
So uh, I just print out that pdf and bring it in, eh? For 9.99 I can hardly go wrong.
No need to print; it's part of the weekend special deal.
However, the coupon that comes with the e-mails need to be printed.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:46 am        Reply with quote

So I have this game right now. I don't really get what's so entertaining about it. Also I tried to do online matches like eight times and I guess no one else really cares about this either.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:23 am        Reply with quote

I'm not so sure I can get with the logic that lower price = higher rating.

A game should be rated on its own merits and not by how much it costs.

That's nearly as retarded as NGJ :roll:
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 7:31 am        Reply with quote

Mr Mustache wrote:
I have edited my review.

I wish I'd said that.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:39 pm        Reply with quote

I'd still give it a low score because it isn't very good. :(
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:32 pm        Reply with quote

gooktime wrote:
I'd still give it a low score because it isn't very good. :(

Yeah, Twinkle Star Sprites and even Change Air Blade are much better models for versus shmups.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:34 pm        Reply with quote

invisibleyogurt wrote:
gooktime wrote:
I'd still give it a low score because it isn't very good. :(

even Change Air Blade are much better models for versus shmups.

pffffffft
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Cossix
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:38 pm        Reply with quote

I'm glad I'm not the only one that doesn't really think this is entertaining. I thought this was maybe some sort of game that lots of people on here liked.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:54 pm        Reply with quote

Oh come on, Change Air Blade was a lot of fun in how ridiculously unbalanced everything was. It at least played like a Psikyo game too.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:16 pm        Reply with quote

Cossix wrote:
I'm glad I'm not the only one that doesn't really think this is entertaining. I thought this was maybe some sort of game that lots of people on here liked.


I think a lot of people wanted to like it, self included. The concept is pretty awesome and it's an uber-niche title for the console that is supposedly nothing but first person shooters and sports games. Pity it's so boring and loose.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:33 pm        Reply with quote

I went and picked it up, figured $10? why the fuck not.

I have yet to play it though, flipped through the instruction book. I have no idea how this game is supposed to work.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:38 am        Reply with quote

Wartech down to 9.99 in the US and A
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:06 am        Reply with quote

Pikachu wrote:
*warning: bullshit video game journalism term -- see also: gameplay


so, uh, it just occurred to me:

Doesn't it kind of hurt the potential legitimacy of video game journalism if it cannot coin new terms for concepts that occur uniquely and specifically within the medium?
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Cycle
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:10 am        Reply with quote

is this region free in the USA?

if so someone plz buy one, i will send you monies.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:17 am        Reply with quote

Yeah, it's region free.
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Cycle
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:19 am        Reply with quote

if someone would like to help a brutha out, pm me
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:01 am        Reply with quote

Cycle wrote:
if someone would like to help a brutha out, pm me


Amazing, I might have someone in Australia to play against on Live lol.

P.S. I paid AU$35 for it.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:03 am        Reply with quote

ant what is your gamertag
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:48 am        Reply with quote

kazuo wrote:
I'm not so sure I can get with the logic that lower price = higher rating.

A game should be rated on its own merits and not by how much it costs.

That's nearly as retarded as NGJ :roll:

See, I don't read any game review where I know that the reviewer didn't pay for the game out of their own pocket. Greatest part about this is that I've read maybe 5 reviews in the last year. When you consider how many hundreds of games have come out and how many dozens of reviews exist per game... Five isn't such a bad number.

In fact!! I'm actually looking forward to reading a review for a $10 Wartech. It's been about that much for a while on eBay, and I was thinking about getting it.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:56 am        Reply with quote

guys no one has priv messages me yet, what's going on
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:13 am        Reply with quote

Moogs wrote:
SuperWes wrote:
Maybe if they would have sold it for $20 in the first place they would have had good enough reviews to sell at least three times as many copies.


I think most of the bad reviews came from people who just didn't understand how to play the game. Listing the $60 price tag as a flaw was just a low blow. One that was deserved, perhaps, but still...


I don't think the people who read said reviews knew how to play the game either.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:18 am        Reply with quote

DonMarco wrote:
See, I don't read any game review where I know that the reviewer paid out of their own pocket for the game.


Wait, what?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:34 am        Reply with quote

Pikachu respond to my hi score thread in your forum

it's bad enough that you couldn't post Judgement Silversword scores
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:53 am        Reply with quote

SuperWes wrote:
I mean, they didn't even have an english dubbing option. How much more overtly budget-game-at-full-price can you get?


Actually, I'm immensely pleased that there wasn't a horrid low-budget anime-style English dub. Don't encourage wasting money on what ends up being absolute shit 99% of the time. Subtitles are peachy with me.

And though I think Senko isn't G.Rev's best work, and as a shooter I find it decent but not great, I'm not at all displeased I spent $60 on it the day it was released. Still better than most 360 games I've played in the almost two years I've owned the system. (oh, and I was damn near ready to buy an import console just to play Senko, so $60 was actually cheap compared to the alternative I thought I would have to take)

Hey by the way, Ridge Racer 6 is also $10-$15 now. If you have ANY tiny flicker of enthusiasm for arcade style racing games, you absoultely owe it to yourself to get it ASAP. That is, unless you have a PS3 and in that case just get RR7 (a.k.a. RR6.5). RR6 is pretty much the only thing that made my 360 worth having for the first six months I owned it, aside from some good mindless fun with DOA4.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:23 pm        Reply with quote

firenze wrote:
I'm immensely pleased that there wasn't a horrid low-budget anime-style English dub. Don't encourage wasting money on what ends up being absolute shit 99% of the time. Subtitles are peachy with me.

First, I said "option" to clarify that they might be able to offer both. It's not like the game is taking up so much of the Disc that it's impossible to fit so much data.

Second, I don't think it's good to assume that anything dubbed will be done poorly. In fact, since the characters don't move their lips, the translators and voice actors would have much more freedom to both sound natural and be true to the source material.

Lastly, and most importantly, this is kind of a special case where most of the subtitles are layered over gameplay so frantic you don't have time to read them.

Anyway, this isn't something I would complain about in a budget release, but there's a certain level of polish I expect in something I pay full price for that just isn't there in this case.

-Wes
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:24 pm        Reply with quote

firenze wrote:
I'm immensely pleased that there wasn't a horrid low-budget anime-style English dub. Don't encourage wasting money on what ends up being absolute shit 99% of the time. Subtitles are peachy with me.

First, I said "option" to clarify that they might be able to offer both. It's not like the game is taking up so much of the Disc that it's impossible to fit so much data.

Second, I don't think it's good to assume that anything dubbed will be done poorly. In fact, since the characters don't move their lips, the translators and voice actors would have much more freedom to both sound natural and be true to the source material.

Lastly, and most importantly, this is kind of a special case where most of the subtitles are layered over gameplay so frantic you don't have time to read them.

Anyway, this isn't something I would complain about in a budget release, but there's a certain level of polish I expect in something I pay full price for that just isn't there in this case.

-Wes
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:09 pm        Reply with quote

firenze wrote:

Hey by the way, Ridge Racer 6 is also $10-$15 now. If you have ANY tiny flicker of enthusiasm for arcade style racing games, you absoultely owe it to yourself to get it ASAP. That is, unless you have a PS3 and in that case just get RR7 (a.k.a. RR6.5). RR6 is pretty much the only thing that made my 360 worth having for the first six months I owned it, aside from some good mindless fun with DOA4.

There's also OutRun 2 and OutRun 2006 which are both around 5 dollars used now.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:50 pm        Reply with quote

I played through the single player once, and did not really have fun until the final boss. And was wondering why every level isn't like that, with a fight one on one at the end. I then went online and played some Japanese guy who destroyed me, and made the game seem much more interesting.

Also, text during this kind of gameplay is dumb. No U.S. voice actors is stupidity. Plus, the story seems void of any worth anyways.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:53 pm        Reply with quote

How hard can it be to grasp that this game works on the same principle as fighting games? Take any Arcsys fighter, for example. The single-player mode can be beaten in a like 2-3 goes. Does that say absolutely anything about the quality of the game? Or does the story, voice-acting, subtitles, etc. matter in the least bit?

Bottom line is that even if they were PAYING YOU to play this game you wouldn't want to if you didn't have any human opponents.

Even the fact that some people bitch about no one being online is indicative that they don't understand this game. This isn't an FPS or an RTS where lag can be tolerated, up to a point. Lag kills this game and renders the online mode irrelevant. Even if there were BILLIONS of opponents always online you STILL wouldn't want to play it beyond a couple of matches for laughs.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:21 pm        Reply with quote

Actually the lag in the games i have played online has been nonexistent, so it wasn't an issue.
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