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Dracko
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 Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:55 pm |
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Best use of cinéma vérité and continuous shots techniques in ages.
Thematically, what I love the most about it is that it deals with actual human beings instead of the one-liner-cracking half-retarded bad-asses you tend to see in modern "commentary" cinema and left any and all moral and political lessons solely up to you. It wasn't aptronising, and thus, it was all the more effective.
And the backstory written in the details. That's great, and most stories should be that way. It's not important to know what happened in a character or areas' past to make them any less interesting. Their past should speak for itself, and this film exemplified that on all points. A good film is one that allows the viewer to create, through an orchestration of impressions, the meaning of its events. |
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Dracko
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: Re: Children of Men thread |
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| Wall of Beef wrote: |
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While I will agree that this is a totally great movie, having just returned from seeing it, the poliitical commentar yin the film is not too subtle at all. I mean, you are pretty regularly bombarded with imagery tying what is happening in the movie to today, and specifically the Iraq war. Now granted, compared to most movies, this is subtle, but I still, overall, would say it was relatively blatant as a whole. |
Well you have to assume that since the whole infertility deal began in 2009, the last war that would have been a big issue that they would be protesting would have been the Iraq war. That basically the world stopped as it was at that point and began to become this marshall law state 20 years later. |
I'm not one to go on and on about how every movie in the past five years has been "omgosh political", but it made sense to me that the world of the future would still be suffering, or profiting, from the repercussions of Western influence in the Middle-East. Maybe it was a statement on Iraq, but it ddidn't feel nearly patronising enough in that way. Besides, the UK going marshal and closing its borders is hardly a stretch.
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| They felt very predictable. |
No way, man. They felt human. It was refreshing to see honest to God people on the big screen once again, instead of the pretentious muck that's been flung at our faces in recent times. |
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Dracko
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:54 pm |
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Who says stagnation? It's sci-fi, that doesn't mean it has to be garish about it.
And I'm really not seeing the Abu Ghraib reference. Is it to do with the militant attitudes against deportees? It's not like bags on heads is anything particularly new. The film, which remains an adaptation of a 15 year-old book, is clearly dealing with fears linked to comtemporary events, but there's nothing in it that seems to condemn the Iraq war, at least that I could see. Which was refreshing, actually. I'm tired of the molly-coddling fare as of late. |
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Dracko
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:47 am |
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Who here thinks the ending could have done with being just two or three seconds earlier?
That escape scene was so very, very British. |
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Dracko
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| Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:59 am |
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| Wall of Beef wrote: |
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| Who here thinks the ending could have done with being just two or three seconds earlier? |
Do you mean not showing the ship "Tomorrow" arriving? Or literally cutting 2 or 3 seconds of footage of the dingy floating in the water?
Or I suppose you mean the voice over of her saying the child was fine or whatever. |
I mean cutting out everything right from the point the ship is shown, that part included.
The voice-over definitely felt unnecessary to me. |
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Dracko
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| Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:05 am |
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I don't see why you'd sigh about something so insignificant.
Incidentally, no, the men are still barren. |
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Dracko
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| Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:46 pm |
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We've been discussing parallels between this film and Half-Life 2 on TGQ. Started with Gears of War comparisons at first, though. There are a number of people who seem to see the same sort of narrative techniques used in both Children of Men and Half-Life 2.
Metal Gear Solid 4 looks impressively poetic, actually. Not really because of the characters, or the plot, but because of the setting: A dying Middle East. They seem to be working with that. |
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