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 Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject: Children of Men thread |
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See this movie if you haven't already.
Spoilers from this point on.
I really liked this film. I totally picked up on all of the subtle political commentaries throughout the film, like Michael Caine's little thing about the government allowing the sale of suicide kits, but still keeping marijuana illegal. Plus, that scene where everyone stopped fighting for a moment to listen to the baby cry. Leave it to a Science Fiction film to come up with such a great scene while the rest of modern cinema drops the damn ball.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:55 am |
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Those continuous scenes were great. The one scene with the blood on the camera tipped me off as to where the cut points were, but they were so seamless that I wouldn't have figured it out otherwise.
And yeah, the way they worked the character's stories into the story itself is the way it should be done. I can accept the first 5 to 10 minutes of a movie being a little expositiony. That's needed for us to learn how to watch this movie. But then, that's it.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:41 pm |
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| Duckzero wrote: |
| One thing I greatly appreciated is how they never, ever explain how the women become infertile, but all of the things, Michael Caine spoke of earlier in the film were completely present, and each one could be a cause. |
I love when stories do this. It's so close to how reality actually works, and it always hangs that mystery on the story that keeps you going and paying attention.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:59 am |
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| boojiboy7 wrote: |
Of course there are logical explanations in the movie for the parade and all that. If there weren't, it would be a stupid movie. However, the images presented were drawing on the modern presentation of the wars in the middle east. You can't think that the choice to have a parade like that in the middle of his movie was just the dircetor saying "eh, maybe i will make them...uhhh...middle eastern?" There is a clear significance to such a choice.
The constant use of the term Homeland Security for the British military is also significant. Yes, the term existed pre-9/11 and all, but it's rise in prominent usage can be directly seen to corrsepond to the fallout from 9/11. This movie is not just drawing on the Iraq war, but is drawing on all of the hysteria that has come out of the usage of modern terrorist tactics in the "civilized" west. The opening bombing sets up that the use of terrorist warfare has become rather common place in modern london, pretty similar to how it has become common place in, say, bahgdad.
The paranoia of the British in seeming to export immigrants for no good reason is only a few short steps away from what the US government was looking to do immediately following 9/11. The movie is taking what has been happening since 9/11 (including the IRaq war) and saying that this (the ruling state of paranoia and fear, not neccessarily the infertility) is the result of it all. |
All of this I agree with. The beauty of this film is that they used that fancy french word, mise-en-guarde, to put this in front of us as a possibility. They didn't go on a hot-dog eating Michael Moore style rant trying to shove it down our throats. In fact, they really didn't even talk about ways to correct the problems. I think the only suggestion was that the people we're discriminating against are the ones who are going to run the world when we're gone, since, the child was born to an immigrant, and would not be a white person when he grew up.
This movie was more of speculative fiction than science fiction.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:40 am |
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| Churippu wrote: |
| I got chillbumps when the baby was crying and all the fighting stopped just where they could hear the baby. That was magical. |
Totally. Theo dying, that wasn't all that bad. But the baby crying and the fighting stopping. That was really something.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:48 pm |
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| GcDiaz wrote: |
Pansies.
Hope y'all get sterilized. |
And yet the ganja is still illegal.
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