[108]

wow man this new mac osx leopard shit is pretty sweet

it's like having a WHOLE NEW COMPUTER
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[skelethulu]

I take it this is your first OSX upgrade!

It tends to cause that feeeeeling.

[108]

it's actually kind of a nightmare over here. i consider apple's software to be, for the most part, superior to all of the third-party stuff. however, every god damned apple application has some huge crippling flaw that keeps me from, you know, actually using it.

for example,

1. mail just simply will not ever save my outgoing messages.

2. ichat continually and repeatedly loses my connection to google talk. like, i can log in and chat for five minutes before it signs me out.

3. safari just . . . sticks every time i try to send a gmail message. it just can't handle gmail!

what the hell!

miraculously, i think leopard has fixed safari, though fuck, mail and ichat, awesome as their HUGE NEW UPGRADES might be, still don't do what i want, even though they're supposed to. man, what a fucking waste.
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[gooktime]

It seems a ton faster, though that might be 'cause I did a full format/reinstall.

Anyone who wants to turn off the disgusting huge reflective dock effect, use this command in terminal:

defaults write com.apple.dock no-glass -boolean YES ; killall Dock

[108]

oh for god's sake why the fuck doesn't mail just WORK

this is starting to really really really really really really really fucking bother me, over here
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[gooktime]

Tim, did you know Gmail are doing IMAP now? If you're lucky and your account has had it enabled (mine hasn't yet) that might work a little better.

[108]

okay literally fucking beside myself with rage over here

thunderbird manages to store fucking copies of my sent messages quite easily, and it's a hideous piece of software

why the fuck can't mail do the same thing?!?!?!?!?

[skelethulu]

As for iChat, you MIGHT be able to fix it by changing it to using port 443 instead of 5190. It's somewhere in the settings.

[DaleNixon]

What's the verdict on upgrading? I got my wife a new iMac literally two days ago and we'll be getting Leopard tonight. She's already set everything up how she wants it on the iMac so we'll probably just upgrade it. Does that leave a whole lot of cruft behind and make for a possibly slower system vs. a fresh install?
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[Martial Loh]

whens is it likely that they'll drop some new Macbook Pros into the mix?

I was holding out for Leopard..but now Im holding out for some new hardware...

[108]

i wonder when they'll at least upgrade the keyboard so that it matches the new iMac keyboard.

i think i'm going to back up my hard drive tonight. lol.
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[Mr. Apol]

so leopard is worth it?

hannah hughes was telling me i can get it for like 10 dollars since i JUST GOT my mac book pro, so i figure, what the hell, you know?
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[Corinth]

Translucent menu bar is retarded, but Finder's handling of networked drives and machines is SO SO SO MUCH BETTER. Also, Spotlight is as useful as Quicksilver as an application launcher, now.

Still no option to sort folders at the top of the list, though.

[Corinth]

I'm setting up a Windows partition so I can play HL2 without BSODing like it does on my desktop, and Bootcamp Assistant made it FAT32. Fuck that noise. I deleted it and made it NTFS from within the Windows installer. Hopefully it still works. I had it as NTFS from the start in Tiger >:|

[Corinth]

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[Corinth]

Windows PCs show up as yellowing CRT monitors with old-school BSODs in Finder, lawl.

[gooktime]

The hilarious thing is it can't differentiate; I was connected to a share hosted on a linux machine and got the same icon :D

[Corinth]

[ajutla]

[dark steve]

mail always saves my outgoing messages what the hell dude

are your preferences screwy or what

[Panoptic]

I'm installing this on my PC soon. Details to follow if I'm successful.

Also, holy shit Dark Steve, I forgot to send you RKA after I moved. Throwing that in the mail tomorrow.

[Kappuru]

stacks are very useful. quicklook is amazing, no doubt, just tap the spacebar.

"spaces" or virtual desktops, as they're known to anyone who's run linux since 1997, are pretty standard.

new dock is nice. I'm runnin' this on a Core2Duo, very very snappy. Faster than Tiger. Safari launches in one second, maybe less..

Quicksilver always shows up in the dock now, though, that's pretty annoying.

I live in a house with a lot of Samba shares. The new finder is much, much, better. I haven't tried Time machine yet. Cover flow is very quick, a lot quicker than I thought it'd be!

No notes sync to iPhone, lame.
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[0sn]

Allan odgaard sez that InputManagers aren't completely busted:
http://macromates.com/blog/2007/inputmanagers-on-leopard/

This is good news.
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[Mr Mustache]

[The Troops]

[Corinth]

Naw, Troops, the number one feature is the new Finder network snappiness. Soooo nice! I can also vouch for Leopard feeling slightly faster, and if my eyes don't deceive me my battery life might even be slightly improved? It's hard to tell.

[gooktime]

It definitely feels a lot snappier here. I'm gonna give it a go on my old iBook G4 later, wonder how that goes.

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[Lestrade]

I played with this today and though I love Quick-Look, stacks, Time Machine etc.—wow, do I ever hate the new shiny grey Finder. Fuck, is it 1997 again? I want pearly white, you fuckers. The transparent menu bar is so useless, you'd almost think Microsoft thought of it.

Actually, the amount of "reminds me of Vista" moments made me do this: :-(

I will wait until one of two things happens:

1) I can buy this for work and install it at home
2) Somebody releases a pearly-white mod to get rid of the iTunes-grey on everything

Hmm. Maybe two of two things.
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[rye]

someone is already working on a hack that makes the corners of the screen rounded again. wow, just wow.

i'm sure you'll have your pearl white in a matter of days. hours?

i'm waiting to install this until after i'm able to make a bootable back up of my whole HDD, which requires an external HDD, which I just purchased from amazon.com.

the icons for the "spaces" and "expose" applications (and why are they now considered as such?) are ugly as sin.

[DaleNixon]

The new System Preferences icon is ugly too :(

Also my Airport Extreme Gigabit edition won't stop fucking freezing. I had to downgrade the firmware in hopes that it will resolve the problem. This is in no way related to Leopard.
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[108]

[sawtooth]

I have no complaints about anything yet!

I like the uniformly gray scheme 1000 times better than brushed metal.
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[DaleNixon]

It'll grow on me. Much like the slowness of OSX 10.0.

I ran the beta for months before it was released. The beta was like 100x faster. I think Leopard is finally as fast if not faster than the beta.
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[108]

god damn it

i put my computer to sleep earlier

now when i wake it up, the keyboard layout is ENGLISH (parentheses, commas, quote marks, apostrophes, @ mark all in different places)

why the fuck did this happen?

and how the hell do i change it back to the japanese layout?
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[Kappuru]

system prefs > international
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[Agent Orange]

Try CMD+Space

[108]

no

i'm not asking how to put the keyboard into japanese typing mode, i'm asking how to change what the actual keyboard layout is recognized as. as in:

japanese keyboards have keys in different places.

for example, on a japanese keyboard, the apostrophe is shift+7

+ is shift+;

( is shift+8

) is shift+9

et cetera.

when my computer last awoke from sleep, it was set to a US English layout

in other words, ( is now shift+9, ) is shift+0, et cetera

my macbook pro has a japanese keyboard.

i have actually very seldom ever used a computer that didn't have a japanese keyboard, so i'm used to the japanese layout.

having it set in a US english layout is very seriously cutting my typing speed, like, in half.
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[Kappuru]

Ah, I see what you mean. Try zapping the PMU/PRAM.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303319

lemme know if this works.
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[Scofflaw]

Oh man I was just watching the leopard features tour on the apple website, and I just about sprayed my pants with diarrhea over how awesome it looks.

Anyone know how I can get a copy of this on the cheap...legally? I can probably finagle a student discount from the apple store, but even $100 seems like a lot after I broke my bank account on oil this week.

Heat's expensive in new england [ - __ - ]
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